[andyman]

Feb 1993 in bootle, merseyside, a two year old boy leaves his mum side as she is in the butcher's. There he meets two evil 10 year old boys, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson. They killed the child for fun! Beaten the child to death to pass the time, even wanted to push another child under a bus to see what happens. Both evil vile scum of the earth killers are out of prison and living with new identities! Is that fair? Is that true justice for the murder of a small two year old boy who was loved by all? It seems like the evil killers are the victims!

[rayheartbliss]

killing a child for fun? :O

are they even humans

[*mazedsalv**]

How the f have they been released?? Bastards!!

[lily.]

No, it's not justice. I remember this when it happened and I still say it's outrageous that those boys are allowed to lead an almost normal life after what they did, and their identities are protected. They've basically been given the legal right to sweep it under the carpet. They were released about 8 years after the crime.


Here's the wiki page on this subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

[andyman]

Human right laws only aply to the few... The wrong few! Justice?? What fking justice, i hope one day the two evil ***** are found! Then its justice!

[lily.]

The law in this country is a joke.

[rayheartbliss]

what they did will always haunt them......

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Freyja
The law in this country is a joke.

totally agree made worse by the fact the country then goes onto give them new identities and protection etc

[rayheartbliss]

thats just not right!

[andyman]

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
what they did will always haunt them......

I doubt they even care! To do what they did they dont have souls... Just pure evil! The law failed us and will continue to do so, drugs and not paying tax is seen as a worse crime

[rayheartbliss]

Originally posted by andyman

I doubt they even care! To do what they did they dont have souls... Just pure evil! The law failed us and will continue to do so, drugs and not paying tax is seen as a worse crime

yerh...
and this is so wrong!

[lily.]

When you delve deeper though, you find that the law failed long before the boys killed.

Both boys were from destructive/abusive homes where they faced abuse and neglect every single day. Yet nothing was ever done to protect them from it. They showed signs of problems at school etc, and nothing was ever done to find out why. Have a good read at the wiki article I posted.

I'm not excusing or condoning their actions. However, once again, the social services failed to protect vulnerable children. In this instance those children turned into cold-blooded killers. In the instance of Baby P for example, the failure to protect led to him being killed.

So, you have to ask yourself if this could all have been prevented had someone actually sat up and took notice of the quality of life these boys had.

However, now that the deed is done, if it were up to me, they'd be behind bars for the rest of their lives. I think they're damaged, and I fear that one day they'll kill again.

[andyman]

They would kill if anybody knew what they did... But yeah its true what you say.

[Sticks]

The law and the professionals are privy to information we are not

[supernoodles!]

I always thought they tied him to a railway track?is this someone else I`m thinking of?

[andyman]

Originally posted by Sticks
The law and the professionals are privy to information we are not

I'm sure the truth will come out one day.

[andyman]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
I always thought they tied him to a railway track?is this someone else I`m thinking of?

Yes they did that and many other awfull acts to the two year old boy.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
I always thought they tied him to a railway track?is this someone else I`m thinking of?

They took him on like a 5 mile walk and tortured him along the way by putting paint in his eyes and beating him up. Then they laid him down on the tracks so it would look like he had wondered off and got hit by a train.

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Anyway, no I don't think that the should still be in prison. I am not defending what they did by the way before I start this.
Anyone that says that these to men have normal lives now they are out of prison are wrong. They have to report to a probhation officer every week for the rest of their lifes. They are constantly changing identities. Don't get to make friends or have/see any family. They have restricted movements ect.
I don't think that you can put an 10 year old in prison for life and thats it. There are so many arguments against it. Can an 10 year old determine for themself what is right or wrong? Have they been abused, brought up very badly? Is it a childs fault they are brought up a certain way which leads to this horrific stuff? You have to look at the bigger picture, even though what they did was evil and disgusting you cannot put and 10 year old away for life. You just can't. No matter what.

[andyman]

10yr old not 8. And you have just defended them!

[Hugo]

I haven't defended them. I have defended their case.

[lily.]

I see where you are coming from Hugo. You aren't defending them as such, but you are looking at the bigger picture.

It's very difficult to determine what is the right course of action. It's easy for me and others to sit here and say what we would do, but given the responsibility of that decision, maybe we would take into account the fact that they were so young and had such miserable lives prior to this.

It's also difficult for me (and probably others here) as a parent to forgive what they did, or to want anything good for them in light of what they did.

The people who make the decisions about the release etc, have to not make it personal. I can't do that.

[andyman]

Originally posted by HUGO
I haven't defended them. I have defended their case.

Same thing! Plus both was nearly 11years old... Awww poor them. Sick!

[Spike]

Prison is pointless for people like them, they need to be taught a real lesson
I would like them to be tortured and killed, I wouldn't mind doing it.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by HUGO

They took him on like a 5 mile walk and tortured him along the way by putting paint in his eyes and beating him up. Then they laid him down on the tracks so it would look like he had wondered off and got hit by a train.

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Anyway, no I don't think that the should still be in prison. I am not defending what they did by the way before I start this.
Anyone that says that these to men have normal lives now they are out of prison are wrong. They have to report to a probhation officer every week for the rest of their lifes. They are constantly changing identities. Don't get to make friends or have/see any family. They have restricted movements ect.
I don't think that you can put an 10 year old in prison for life and thats it. There are so many arguments against it. Can an 10 year old determine for themself what is right or wrong? Have they been abused, brought up very badly? Is it a childs fault they are brought up a certain way which leads to this horrific stuff? You have to look at the bigger picture, even though what they did was evil and disgusting you cannot put and 10 year old away for life. You just can't. No matter what.

Oh i see,i thought train tracks came into it somewhere I remember my mam telling me about James when I was very very young,He would have been my age now If he was still aliveI really feel for his family,its a parents worst nightmare

[lily.]

Originally posted by Spike
Prison is pointless for people like them, they need to be taught a real lesson
I would like them to be tortured and killed, I wouldn't mind doing it.

Doesn't that make you as evil as they are though? It doesn't make it right. And, you'd have to live with it. Could you live with killing another, even if it was someone you deemed to be evil?