[waterhog]

austerity measures protest - please protest even if you disagree with my style 20.10.12

no this is not wrong,
its all above board and legal,
because instead of the government scrutinizing us,
on our anger they can keep a eye that's eagle.
i hope there is trouble,
and on a mass scale,
the conservatives just want to punish,
not a good time to mention George Osborne on rail.
they are arrogant and disgraceful,
Andrew Lansley today did permanently strike,
yet again more proof,
this is due to the incident with his bike.
if anyone reads this,
i would beg you to protest,
this is your opportunity,
to clear your anger from your chest.
go and march please,
i will send my poem and publicize,
yes i will be there,
because protesting in person beats a riddle exercise.


( hello everyone on this forum. as you can see i have done one more strange poem. this is all about the march that is taking place today. 20.10.12 in London. i would erge everyone to turn up because the more people we have the more power we have. it is not right or in anyway correct what the conservative party are doing and we have to tell them and stop this in the only way we can - in numbers. i will be reading some of my poetry with a loud speaker in central London today JOKE. can not wait to see how it is portrayed on the news tonight.does anyone disagree with us protesting ? does anyone think this government is doing good for the normal person ? if so please tell me and explain.yes i sent my poem to the con party first - as i wanted to have the first dig. )

[arista]

NO

[Kazanne]

Why not write poems about the GOOD stuff this government is doing ,(Unemployment is actually down)it's there if you care to look,hell ,no I wont be protesting,it's time people stopped spitting their dummies out and get on with helping to get this country on it's feet again,we are getting there slowly,

[arista]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Why not write poems about the GOOD stuff this government is doing ,(Unemployment is actually down)it's there if you care to look,hell ,no I wont be protesting,it's time people stopped spitting their dummies out and get on with helping to get this country on it's feet again,we are getting there slowly,

I agree

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

NO

Originally Posted by kazanne

Why not write poems about the GOOD stuff this government is doing ,(Unemployment is actually down)it's there if you care to look,hell ,no I wont be protesting,it's time people stopped spitting their dummies out and get on with helping to get this country on it's feet again,we are getting there slowly,

Couldn't agree more with both these posts.

There's an awful lot I disagree with regarding the current Government - same when it was Labour.

Too many moaners - usually coming from the ones who don't actually doa great deal to help get the feet back on it's feet again. Times are tough all over, that's the way it is.

OP - if you want this kind of thing: nip over to Athens and see how you enjoy peaceful protests when go very wrong. - then realise the damage caused, the cost of having to police such protests, additional costs to the NHS via ambulance crews, A&E having to deal with the injuries etc. ......

[thesheriff443]

protesting does not work,but neither does voteing!.
i dont like being spood fed bullsh*t,
why is the goverment letting the energy companies put the prices up just before winter?
let them put them up in summer and lower them in winter!.
the poorest people will sit in there council house when its to cold to sleep!
i cant see any mp's being cold this winter.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Why not write poems about the GOOD stuff this government is doing ,(Unemployment is actually down)it's there if you care to look,hell ,no I wont be protesting,it's time people stopped spitting their dummies out and get on with helping to get this country on it's feet again,we are getting there slowly,

Yeah, all while there's tax cuts for millionaires as those at the bottom are forced into choosing between eating and heating, struggling to make ends meet and those on welfare are lambasted by the government and media for a problem that they didn't create. Congratulations for lapping it up and falling for the spin.

[waterhog]

thank you jack - i feel a love of my life poem just for you jack.

[joeysteele]

I wouldn't join the protesters,although I admire people who do make some effort to point out how wrong some of the measures put in place by this Govt are.
I believe some austerity measures are necessary but I would prefer to see the strongest and richest and also the Banks in particular getting the same sledgehammer treatment that the weakest,poorest and most vulnerable have had taken to them.

A big store near me has proudly boasted that it has taken on 10 more staff this last 4 months,which sounds wonderful and a start, until I learned from some of the staff that the 90 staff they already employ have had their hours cut from 37 guranteed a week to 33 guaranteed now, which in effect means the 10 staff taken on at 33 hours a week have gained a job but the staff already employed there for years have lost 4 hours income per week each.
It also means the Store has gained 30 hours less of wages to pay each week too.

While it is true that the 90 staff have held most of their hours and therefore remain employed, it is at a financial loss to them.
The employment figures too,also now contain more people in part time jobs than at any time in employment history.
That is how the unemployment figures are seemingly falling not because of economic successes.

The Govt had hard choices to make and I largely supported them but it is the great lack of compassion I have learned as to the cuts against the weakest and even the most vulnerable in society which leaves me cold I am afraid.
It is also why the Protesters will be totally ignored by the Govt,both parties of the Coalition.
It is why, especially after all the even more unfair and heartless policies come into effect through 2013 and 2014, that this lot will be well and truly sent packing by the voters in 2015.
However, what a very weak choice there is as to the only likely alternative.

[arista]

Dork Labour leader Miliband

Was Booo'd at the rally.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Dork Labour leader Miliband

Was Booo'd at the rally.

I think that will actually be of benefit to him and do him some good though, it doesn't fit with the charge he is in the Unions pockets if he gets booed when he makes a point as to any likely policy he may do and most of them don't like what they hear.
He said he too would have to be making some cuts, the protesters don't want any and that is really impossible.

[lostalex]

Starve the poor
they'll die
faster

[lostalex]

yay! I did poetry

did you see what i did there? cause "faster" at the end, refers to capitalism moving at faster and faster speeds, always moving, always pushing forward as fast as possible, like a car out of control. But also "faster" like a person who is fasting, not eating, like the starving people who have nothing and who will be run over by the out of control car.

that was clever, right?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

Dork Labour leader Miliband

Was Booo'd at the rally.

Good, the Unions should have nothing to do with Labour

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Starve the poor
they'll die
faster

Actually,that is possibly going to happen in the UK with the way some of this Govts austerity measures and cuts are going to hit the most vulnerable.
It is why I cannot now support the measures they are doing,the way they are implementing them.

(By the way Lostalex, welcome back,good to see you posting again).

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

(By the way Lostalex, welcome back,good to see you posting again).

muchos gracias mi amor.

[waterhog]

and while we continue to let them dictate the the poorest pay the most of the debt - the bigger measures there will be. if we all go on the street and continually say we are not happy they will have to look into the sytem an make changes and that would in-turn stop them getting all there exspences paid - there 11 weeks holiday etc etc second houses and how about a massive cut in there pay ? i dont no about you lot but i am sickened by the MPS wages as i dont feel they are serving any of us as the laws they pass go aginst the working hard - this needs to be nipped in the bud but it won't as people can not understand politics and show no interest and that is why it gets harder and harder for the ones at the bottom while the educated on good wages keep voting the conseratives who inturn look after them by intoducing tax breaks and making them pay the lowest in tax with all there accountants they no all the tricks - ITS PURE CORRUPTION. and daivid C is aware of all what goes on. shame on him.

[Alf]

get of our streets you soap dodgers

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by waterhog

and while we continue to let them dictate the the poorest pay the most of the debt -

the bigger measures there will be. if we all go on the street and continually say we are not happy they will have to look into the sytem an make changes and that would in-turn stop them getting all there exspences paid - there 11 weeks holiday etc etc second houses and how about a massive cut in there pay ? i dont no about you lot but i am sickened by the MPS wages as i dont feel they are serving any of us as the laws they pass go aginst the working hard - this needs to be nipped in the bud but it won't as people can not understand politics and show no interest and that is why it gets harder and harder for the ones at the bottom while the educated on good wages keep voting the conseratives who inturn look after them by intoducing tax breaks and making them pay the lowest in tax with all there accountants they no all the tricks - ITS PURE CORRUPTION. and daivid C is aware of all what goes on. shame on him.

the poorest pay most of the debt?

Really.!! Good god.. you really need to get in touch with reality.

The poorest don't tend to have their own mortgages to ensure they keep a roof over their heads (and the don't have the comfort of being able to rely on the Government to pay for their social housing during lean times). Those with mortgages receive very little help (if at all)..... and are expected to pay additional premiums to 'protect themselves' in times of hardship such as being unexpected long term illnesses, losing jobs etc. Even if they are struggling on basic salaries.

the Poorest receive free dental treatment which isn't available to those working ...even those who are really struggling to get by on the basic min wages, but still they are not allowed free dental treatment.

So quit with the sob story here... please!


I make no bones about this..... the very low (unbelievably low) payments that are made to those in genuine times of hardship are a joke - an absolute joke ...... but thanks to those types who bleed the system dry (yer every con man who knows every trick in the book, the asylum seekers that know more about benefits that our own countryfolk, and MP's etc who are claim for every goddam thing - including those rescinding on what they agreed etc).......

Please... give it a rest about the poor.

If you want to see poor.... go take a trip to Kenya, Ethiopia, better than that, have a look at where ever you live and it's your local city centre.

Ever done any voluntary work for the homeless? I have, I do and have done for years. That opens up your eyes a whole lot..... Does it make me feel good? Not one bit, it makes me sick when I realise the crap that I find time to moan about in my own life. I see these poor forgotten souls - who are POOR - and many through real ****ty circumstances.... People who literally have not a penny to their name, no homes, no food, no every night shelter, no warmth, no hot water, no comfort... sweet FA ...... get your act together when you refer to 'the poor'.

Some people really need to look outside their own little priviledged boxes and start to try to even begin to comprehend what the word 'poor' means.

Living off the state, in a warm house, with water, electricity, gas, food, comfort, tv, internet, mobile phones is not POOR. It's called going through hard times... something that hits many of us and we get through it thanks to the government doing all they can to ensure we dont' end up on the streets. Get yourself a mortage: then that's when it all goes tits up if it all comes crashing down.

Time people woke up.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by wannashag

get of our streets you soap dodgers

You do realise this is a serious discussion.

What part of your comment is meant to be taken seriously?

Many people take part in protests...... not all 'soap dodgers' as you put it.

If you want to confirm that.... have a look at the very high upper crust arseholes who end up in the courts due to their behaviour during protests....people who have not one thing to ever EVER worry about in their lives given their status and money made available to them which they use to their own advantage, but then take part in these protests because they want to be seen as some pathetic 'radical' types.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You do realise this is a serious discussion.

What part of your comment is meant to be taken seriously?

Many people take part in protests...... not all 'soap dodgers' as you put it.

If you want to confirm that.... have a look at the very high upper crust arseholes who end up in the courts due to their behaviour during protests....people who have not one thing to ever EVER worry about in their lives given their status and money made available to them which they use to their own advantage, but then take part in these protests because they want to be seen as some pathetic 'radical' types.

check out mr serious head

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by wannashag

check out mr serious head

See...this being the SERIOUS DEBATES part of the forum: it kinda gives the game away with the title. It's about those discussing serious topics, with serious responses: regardless of whether agreement is met.

However if you, Wannashag, want to meet Takethepish, then I very respectfully and humbly refer to you to this part of the forum.



http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...splay.php?f=41

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

See...this being the SERIOUS DEBATES part of the forum: it kinda gives the game away with the title. It's about those discussing serious topics, with serious responses: regardless of whether agreement is met.

However if you, Wannashag, want to meet Takethepish, then I very respectfully and humbly refer to you to this part of the forum.



http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...splay.php?f=41

who do you think you are? telling people what they can and cant do
what a snob

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by wannashag

who do you think you are? telling people what they can and cant do
what a snob

Nothing at all snobbish about requesting for members to keep posts on topic - it's actually trying to steer and maintain the integrity of the thread.

It's called HAVING respect for the forum as well as showing a modicum of respect to the OP, regardless of whether one agrees with OP or not..

would of course be nice for a moderator to confirm this though.

[Kizzy]

Please don't get warthogs thread closed ...
Civil unrest happens when people are not happy, right now unemployed people are not happy, employed people are not happy, people in social housing are not happy, people with morgages are not happy, people who live in private rented accommodation are not happy...
Do you see where i'm going with this? Only a tiny percentage of the population are happy, this is not conducive to a happy society with happy communities.
Something has to change.