[Soldier Boy]

I'm not convinced that Swinney isn't just more of the same thing, and it feels like a frustrating indication that they really think Yousaf's unpopularity and reason the SNP has been tanking is down to the "stuff with the Greens" which it clearly is not. People also oversimplify it as being about "gender issues" as well and I don't think it's that either.

The issue that's tanking the SNP, is that Scotland actually does (and always has) had a strong sense of social justice -- by which I mean, REAL social justice. Social consequences. You act like a ****ing idiot and people will tell you so/joke about it/take the piss and that person is then free to return fire... safe in the knowledge that they can have a bit of aggressive/"offensive" back and forth without the government stepping in and the police turning up at people's doors.

That's it. That's what people want. That's a fundamental part of Scottish culture and IMO a good part of it. The loss of that is what people are voting against. The SNP does not seem to realise that at all.

[bitontheslide]

i think Swinney will basically give the greens what they want to get the majority back. It's not good for Scotland

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think Swinney will basically give the greens what they want to get the majority back. It's not good for Scotland

I think they're underestimating the extent to which they'll need a lot more than the Greens to keep a majority. Their popularity has plummeted, I'd estimate it's worse than the Tories' situation south of the border at this point. SNP had massive support and it's totally tanked. It'll tank even further if Labour do indeed sweep the board in England at the next GE ... because the SNP are partially bolstered by anti-Tory sentiment - Wee Nic for example leveraged Scottish dislike of Tories very often (and very effectively). If that "enemy" is out of play for a while that is a strategic "loss" for the SNP as well. Plenty of "new" (post-2008) SNP voters will flip back to Labour if they see Labour as a viable option.

[Soldier Boy]

My dad (who is 70) for example was a life-long Labour voter... my parents even used to have one of those little signs for the living room window. He's been SNP since Cameron entered No. 10 but I strongly suspect he'll happily flip back to Labour at the next GE.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I think they're underestimating the extent to which they'll need a lot more than the Greens to keep a majority. Their popularity has plummeted, I'd estimate it's worse than the Tories' situation south of the border at this point. SNP had massive support and it's totally tanked. It'll tank even further if Labour do indeed sweep the board in England at the next GE ... because the SNP are partially bolstered by anti-Tory sentiment - Wee Nic for example leveraged Scottish dislike of Tories very often (and very effectively). If that "enemy" is out of play for a while that is a strategic "loss" for the SNP as well. Plenty of "new" (post-2008) SNP voters will flip back to Labour if they see Labour as a viable option.

the SNP also benefited in the past from labour being almost unelectable in england, so it was like a protest vote against the tories. If labour look like they are going to win, then it makes much morse sense to have as many scottish representatives within that party as they can, to increase the scottish influence

[LeatherTrumpet]

the labour leader up here is every bit as vile and deluded as useless

its not a good outlook

[LeatherTrumpet]

Upset by a cartoon.

Not so upset smiling next to a "decapitate terfs" sign.

Typical SNP.



https://x.com/AgentP22/status/1786361628700663918

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Upset by a cartoon.

Not so upset smiling next to a "decapitate terfs" sign.

Typical SNP.



https://x.com/AgentP22/status/1786361628700663918

She should probably think before she speaks next time.

Because what a hypocrite.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Based on Humza Useless racist tirade at the Scottish Parliament

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Based on Humza Useless racist tirade at the Scottish Parliament

[LeatherTrumpet]

Tommy R, Darren Grimes and Lozza also re-posted this on X so it went far and wide

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Based on Humza Useless racist tirade at the Scottish Parliament

hate speech

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

hate speech

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Based on Humza Useless racist tirade at the Scottish Parliament

The man used to complain against sport getting involved in politics. What's happened to you young blue nosed numpties?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The man used to complain against sport getting involved in politics. What's happened to you young blue nosed numpties?

in Scottish Politics?

when?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in Scottish Politics?

when?

politics and sport should never be a thing, that saying has always been a thing shouted by the people. You can go way back to the controversy over the british lions tour of south africa way back in the late sixties or early seventies or maybe early 80s.

Just cause tobacco companies can now sponsor sports doesnt mean sports fans should be getting political seeing as there forebears fought loud it for years

[Soldier Boy]

Oh aye never been any politics involved in the Old Firm.

[arista]

[I'm not convinced that Swinney isn't just more of the same thing]

Yes,
this will be the SNP problem, SB

He is like a Military man
no slips ups, no arresting him.

No falling over.

Today or Tomorrow he can take over

[arista]

Swinney is now the New Cocky Leader

[LeatherTrumpet]

the man who oversaw porn being spread to school kids because he thought it made him look "progressive"

[arista]

Now Live
on all 3 News Ch.


SNP New Leader

[LeatherTrumpet]

[arista]

[LeatherTrumpet]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Powerful speech today in Holyrood



https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1788274036528558435