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BB12 Big Brother 12 started on Thursday Sept 9th 2011 on Channel 5 for a 9-week run. The series was won by Aaron. Tell us what you thought about the housemates and series in this forum. |
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11-11-2011, 03:08 PM | #51 | |||
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I think the US format is better and the concept is better because it's closer to being an actual social experiment in that it's far more self-contained than BBUK. That's because the houseguests know that ultimately they will decide who wins. BBUK ultimately is a popularity contest so the houseguests know they have to cater to the outside world as much as to each other.
That said, even though the format is superior I think the editing is bad. Hardly a minute can go by in the regular show without them using some type of dramatic music. And I hate it that the houseguests are not presented as 3 dimensional people. Instead, the people who do the editing practically decide how you feel about certain people. The "heroes" and the "villains" when in reality everyone is a mixture of both. |
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11-11-2011, 03:45 PM | #52 | |||
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Rachel winning = predictable, since BB practically manipulated the whole game to make it happen. (Brendon coming back, pandora's box). No miracle here, just great production. All of the events were apart of the BBUS cookie cutter show
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11-11-2011, 04:39 PM | #53 | |||
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They weren't planning on bringing Brendon back because they kept the other houseguests in sequester so they were planning on bringing back an evicted HG the whole time. Jeff and Jordan fans voted Brendon back in because he was an ally of Jeff and they knew he was a bigger target than Jeff. |
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11-11-2011, 04:40 PM | #54 | |||
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and atleast the usa has live feed with 4 different cameras which shows all the unedited stuff
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11-11-2011, 04:44 PM | #55 | ||
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Omnipresence of the camera's yep, they could disguise them a bit, make them miss-able, instead they hang them from thick silver polls from the ceiling. "Big Brother is watching you" - one of the elements in the UK show which still legitimizes it's link to Orwell's "Big Brother" They want the house-mate to feel they are being watched, yet this conflicts with it's other elemental link "The voice of Big Brother" He seems to get less Big Brother and more Friendly Uncle. Regardless to which i prefer BBUK has been ripped out of it's foundations over the years in an attempt to dial into a populist sweet spot. I remember when they did a similar thing with Red Dwarf, which had a huge cult following, and voided any responsibilities to become the happy medium due to it's cheapness to make. They changed it, and spent more money on it and it became not gentle enough to be popular, nor subtle enough to be cult. Seems BB-UK are not finding this sweet spot if the decline in viewing figures are concerned, and have pretty much annoyed loyal fans this year with there extreme definition of "Artistic License" i really don't think the makers of it know what they are doing at all. Is the Grass always greener? i think so. So is there a happy medium? i hope so because Tv that cost's as much as BB-UK don't survive on around 1.5 million viewers. And i don't like the idea that they would bridge that gap from the voters wallet. |
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11-11-2011, 05:00 PM | #56 | ||
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11-11-2011, 05:19 PM | #57 | |||
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And I do think the people editing the show emphasize certain characteristics about the houseguests. America's favorite, Jeff, often came across as a moody self-entitled prick on the live feeds but he got a decent edit. I thought that Jessie (BB10 BB11) whom America hated was a much nicer fellow than Jeff. |
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11-11-2011, 05:38 PM | #58 | |||
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Lol.. Good point, but what I meant is in the American Version, the Chen-Bot (Julie Chen) has to explain EVERYTHING to the audience. It's quite insulting and takes a lot of the surprise out of the show. The UK version is more sneaky with it's twists and turns and makes for a more entertaining show, but I must say this years UK series has adapted elements from the US which I find bothersome. Like the Highly recapped Saturday shows. I've watched all week, I know what happened, it's annoying to see it all again. The Recap on Friday live shows is boring as well.
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11-11-2011, 05:45 PM | #59 | ||
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I also live in the states and discovered BBUK online last year right after the US season ended. I started with UK11 and was like WTF is going on here?! I then tore through the entire UK series in 9 months. BBUS pales in comparison to the UK version. Really, all they do in the US is backstab, lie, and manipulate their way to the final. (Aaron would have been a great fit for the US version) Davina has more charisma in her pinky finger than the US host Julie Chenbot does. Julie just reads the teleprompter and her delivery is as flat as a pancake, Davina on the other hand was invested and interested in what was going on. In the UK the tasks are better, the housemates are more enjoyable, there are moments and relationships that form, build, and grow whereas in US they would sell their best friend in the house or their own mom down the river to get the half million. I can name at least 5 housemates from each UK season, yet I can't name 2 people from each season of the US version. Hell, I can't even remember who was on it last summer, it's so forgettable. I'm beyond thankful to have found BBUK, I absolutely adore it and hope it stays on longer than next year. Either way I'm making plans to come to the UK in the summer and partake in a live eviction.
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11-11-2011, 06:03 PM | #60 | |||
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Like I said before, can anyone direct me to an episode or segment of BBUK that is as interesting as the one I posted?
And I think that Julie Chin's personality (or lack of one) goes in with the theme of the show that we are all spectators in an experiment whose conclusion is uncertain. It's trying to be more like a documentary and if Julie was all bubbly and shouty like Divina it wouldn't fit. Probably my fav housemate from BBUK is Nikki but she wasn't quite as interesting as the evil Dr. Will, Janelle, or Evel Dick. Last edited by Liberty4eva; 11-11-2011 at 06:06 PM. |
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17-11-2011, 01:50 AM | #61 | |||
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17-11-2011, 04:15 AM | #62 | |||
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UK for me. Though TBF I'm a creature of habit and prefer what I know
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17-11-2011, 04:59 AM | #63 | |||
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17-11-2011, 05:01 AM | #64 | |||
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17-11-2011, 05:35 AM | #65 | |||
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And Janelle is the queen, but Nikki > Janelle tbh.
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17-11-2011, 06:32 AM | #66 | |||
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A lot of people did not like Ivette. The next season during all-stars James said that Rachel had threatened Howie and said if he voted for Ivette she would never speak to him again. LOL. Last edited by Liberty4eva; 17-11-2011 at 06:42 AM. |
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17-11-2011, 06:52 AM | #67 | |||
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17-11-2011, 04:53 PM | #68 | |||
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In season 2 Dr. Will basically told every houseguest, to their face, that he was a bad guy and would stab them in the back, in the front, stab them wherever he could, he told people not to trust him and he found a way to make it to the end and win the whole game. |
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17-11-2011, 04:57 PM | #69 | |||
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17-11-2011, 05:07 PM | #70 | |||
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17-11-2011, 05:12 PM | #71 | |||
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Dr. Will convincing everybody that Marcellus took the money and the prizes in the task in season 7 is one of the best moments in Big Brother history.
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18-11-2011, 02:27 AM | #72 | ||
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18-11-2011, 02:41 AM | #73 | |||
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18-11-2011, 02:47 AM | #74 | |||
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18-11-2011, 04:59 AM | #75 | |||
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Us> UK
UK is NOT personality contest anynmore, its a contest who can act nice the longest.
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