[Underscore]

I'm saying this purely as a disaffected member of Labour - residing in the Progress (centre/New Labour) faction.

I mean a Corbyn government would be better than a May government but I don't think socialism nor conservatism is the best way forward for our country at the moment.

Will Labour ever return to the centre (say 1994?)

I think there definitely would be fertile ground if Labour loses the next election.
Labour should be performing much better with the current NHS crisis.

[Livia]

They're going to have to.

[LeatherTrumpet]

they are a party of the last century, they need to be left to die.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Underscore

I'm saying this purely as a disaffected member of Labour - residing in the Progress (centre/New Labour) faction.

I mean a Corbyn government would be better than a May government but I don't think socialism nor conservatism is the best way forward for our country at the moment.

Will Labour ever return to the centre (say 1994?)

I think there definitely would be fertile ground if Labour loses the next election.
Labour should be performing much better with the current NHS crisis.

New Labour were nothing more than a neoliberal think tank. As far as selling the NHS off into the private sector, that was a 'works in progress' for Blair's government and they did that with the technique of defunding, reduction in beds, reduction in services and a reduction in social care (for those needing health care within their home). When the Tories (another neoliberal think tank) came along, they continued to devalue the NHS at every opportunity. Like Blair, they lied to the people they are supposed to be serving. New Labour and the Cons are the same players but the Cons had one extra card up their sleeve that would speed things up and move things on to faze 2…'austerity'. They are leeches on capitalism and bleeders of democracy.

We really don't need any more neolib leaders. These governments have been misleading the public for almost 40 years. Even neolib think tanks like Mont Pelerin say that if left unchecked it will reach crisis point (as is happening now). There's only one way to stop it steamrolling on and that's intervention. There's a big economic crash on its way and as that unfolds, the public won't need to be persuaded that there is, as Thatcher always said, 'no alternative'.

[Oliver_W]

In what way would a Corbyn government be better than a May one?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

In what way would a Corbyn government be better than a May one?

One would hope that they would stop stripping money away from disabled people; and maybe even provide a little more for them.

It is just a hope though... these promises tend to fall flat when it comes right down to it.

[smudgie]

I would like both parties to gravitate nearer the centre.
Not too far, but left of centre and right of centre is a good compromise I reckon.

[Scarlett.]

Maybe if the Tories did too

[joeysteele]

Yes but after some redress towards the left as to policy first, after a too large drift to the right.
Done by Tony Blair and then this awful lurch to the right under the Coalition firstly.
Then with this more extreme right wing govt.the last near 3 years.

[Brillopad]

Not with Corbyn in power.

[Kizzy]

Hopefully not no, just remember too that if it wasn't for the sad passing of left of centre John Smith there would have been no right of centre Blair, we are only returning to the place that is traditionally the Labour position....

We have the torys and the lib dems for the centre right and the right why is it not acceptable to have Labour back in touch with their left of centre ideology?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hopefully not no, just remember too that if it wasn't for the sad passing of left of centre John Smith there would have been no right of centre Blair, we are only returning to the place that is traditionally the Labour position....

We have the torys and the lib dems for the centre right and the right why is it not acceptable to have Labour back in touch with their left of centre ideology?

Because it challenges right wing snowflakes opinions

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

In what way would a Corbyn government be better than a May one?

Officially at this time
the next UK general election
is May 2022.

So thats well after Brexit.
That Labour Leader (Live Sunday ITV)
has stated we will leave the Single market
by then.


Corbyn
was Anti EU for many years when he was younger.
He states he wants something like the single market
but so do the Conservatives.

People like MP Chuka Umunna
are not in the Labour Cabinet
his views are Not Valid


Corbyn can be better than Pathetic May
its all to play for............................

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not with Corbyn in power.

He is the Legit Labour Leader
no one can take his place
he won it clear.

You may Hate him
but its possible he can be in Power in 2022.
due to the numbers of votes.

Like that Pathetic last General Rushed Election
when PM MAY , failed
and had no choice but get the DUP to join her.
After that she reset another 5 years



Its all in the Maths.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by arista

He is the Legit Labour Leader
no one can take his place
he won it clear.

You may Hate him
but its possible he can be in Power in 2022.
due to the numbers of votes.

Like that Pathetic last General Rushed Election
when PM MAY , failed
and had no choice but get the DUP to join her.
After that she reset another 5 years



Its all in the Maths.

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