[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jet

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

I'd say their biggest supporters were smart enough to grasp what they meant by seeking privacy was getting away from the invasive British press not about going to live a reclusive life never to be heard from again.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I'd say their biggest supporters were smart enough to grasp what they meant by seeking privacy was getting away from the invasive British press not about going to live a reclusive life never to be heard from again.

Who here has ever said them wanting privacy meant they wanted to live a reclusive life never to be heard of again? Nobody. That is a silly, totally unrealistic invention.
There is a huge difference between wanting normal privacy and desperate attention seeking antics which ensures the repeated coverage they crave in that invasive British press....

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jet

Who here has ever said them wanting privacy meant they wanted to live a reclusive life never to be heard of again? Nobody. That is a silly, totally unrealistic invention.
There is a huge difference between wanting normal privacy and desperate attention seeking antics which ensures the repeated coverage they crave in that invasive British press....

They have normal privacy. What do you know about their personal lives? nothing because now they are in control of what they put out to the press, which was the whole point.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

Well once again it's a case of damned if you do damned if you don't. If he had gone it would be seen as him attention grabbing , so whatever :/ .

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well once again it's a case of damned if you do damned if you don't. If he had gone it would be seen as him attention grabbing , so whatever :/ .

If he had gone where? Are you referring to Prince Philips memorial service which hasn't been held yet?
If so, then it absolutely would not be seen as attention grabbing, it would be seen as the right thing to do. Nobody said he was attention grabbing when he attended his grandfathers funeral, or the unveiling of Diana's statue.
Letting down his grandmother by refusing to attend because of security issues when he knows darn well he will have the security the rest of them will have, just like he did on his previous 2 visits is disgusting. How low can he go?

[Oliver_W]

A singer or actor may want to be a "celebrity", because fame is a natural consequence from being successful in a performance job. A footballer or diver may want to be a "celebrity", because a higher profile means more sponsorahips. A reality tv personality is all about "fame" ... but all of these people can expect their personal lives to be kept private.

[parmnion]

Oh I want privacy....


Hi world...my dads a ****, and my family has a racist in it.

[AnnieK]

Let's not pretend that most pro royalists took Harry and Meghan's stance of wanting to.distance themselves from the media circus of the Royal family to mean they wanted total privacy. The threads on here alone proved it... All they have ever wanted was to control their own narrative, if you don't like it, don't listen. They aren't working Royals, their views on the world have no more impact on anyone's lives any more than any other celeb. I really don't get the interest.

William and Kate's thread is almost empty.....if you are interested in Royal life that is where the news is. Not re-hashing the same gripes about.non Royal s

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Let's not pretend that most pro royalists took Harry and Meghan's stance of wanting to.distance themselves from the media circus of the Royal family to mean they wanted total privacy. The threads on here alone proved it... All they have ever wanted was to control their own narrative, if you don't like it, don't listen. They aren't working Royals, their views on the world have no more impact on anyone's lives any more than any other celeb. I really don't get the interest.

William and Kate's thread is almost empty.....if you are interested in Royal life that is where the news is. Not re-hashing the same gripes about.non Royal s

Yeah i always thought Kate & William were popular, puzzling really .

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Let's not pretend that most pro royalists took Harry and Meghan's stance of wanting to.distance themselves from the media circus of the Royal family to mean they wanted total privacy. The threads on here alone proved it... All they have ever wanted was to control their own narrative, if you don't like it, don't listen. They aren't working Royals, their views on the world have no more impact on anyone's lives any more than any other celeb. I really don't get the interest.

William and Kate's thread is almost empty.....if you are interested in Royal life that is where the news is. Not re-hashing the same gripes about.non Royal s

If William and Kate started airing their dirty linen, fell out with their respective families, whined and moaned, sued all round them, kept inserting themselves into the news in controversial ways, then there would be plenty to say on their thread, don’t you think? It would be hiving....
As they don’t, and just get on with their responsibilities and duties with dignity and class, then the thread is simply to see what they are currently doing, nothing more. It's just 'news'.

And with all due respect Annie, it’s nothing to do with you what others listen to or are interested in.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

If William and Kate started airing their dirty linen, fell out with their respective families, whined and moaned, sued all round them, kept inserting themselves into the news in controversial ways, then there would be plenty to say on their thread, don’t you think? It would be hiving....
As they don’t, and just get on with their responsibilities and duties with dignity and class, then the thread is simply to see what they are currently doing, nothing more. It's just 'news'.

And with all due respect Annie, it’s nothing to do with you what others listen to or are interested in.

They don't want responsibilities or duties anymore, that's the point. As Annie put it they want to control their own narrative. And they have every right to do that.
They are no longer public property, they can go, work, Sue wherever and whoever they like.

It would make sense too to not pay any mind to them if they upset you that much.. it seems odd that if you don't like someone that much you would even give anything they did any attention.
For example, I don't like the kardashians... so guess what? I don't read about their lives or watch their shows.

I don't go on threads about them listing reasons why I dislike them.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

If William and Kate started airing their dirty linen, fell out with their respective families, whined and moaned, sued all round them, kept inserting themselves into the news in controversial ways, then there would be plenty to say on their thread, don’t you think? It would be hiving....
As they don’t, and just get on with their responsibilities and duties with dignity and class, then the thread is simply to see what they are currently doing, nothing more. It's just 'news'.

And with all due respect Annie, it’s nothing to do with you what others listen to or are interested in.

You are quite right....but with all due respect I am still able to voice my opinion on the subject am I not This is a debate forum after all and there is no debate to be had if everyone thought the same.

[thesheriff443]

This part of the thread was about Harry not going to is grandads memorial due to security risks.

Il give an example of how pathetic that is,

Ex pm Mrs may, has a 24 hour armed police man at her house but she and her husband still walk around Waitrose on their own doing their shopping.

[Cherie]

I think many people have forgotten they didn’t want to step down completely from Royal duties but wanted to be part timers which Liz would not countenance, reportedly Harry has been in Charles ear about relaxing the stance Liz took when she has passed on

[bitontheslide]

they wanted to keep the cash and the perks. It would be the end of the royal family if charles relaxed that stance

[bitontheslide]

The majority of royals have no security protection at all. I don't think its unreasonable to provide security for high profile royals, and harry and family clearly fit into this category.

What people are not understanding is that Harry and family are no longer resident in the uk and there is much more involved in royal protection than having them accompanied by a couple of armed bruisers. The vast majority of protection now involves constant monitoring of intelligence etc. That is where the work is. So, it's just not feasible to provide that protection for a family that doesn't even live in the country. They are just not in the royal orbit now, and to be quite blunt, that was their express choice