[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Here you go: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tic-balls.html

It's 5 years ago but they were quite a feminine boy

Thank you. What a story the heck

[Cherie]

Hallie is like Olivia, just spoilt and used to getting her own way, must be a great eye opener for her and Olivia that the world does not revolve around them

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Thank you. What a story the heck

I think I got so hung up on seeing Hallie as a kid that I didn't appreciate how bizarre that story is

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

yes with respect, perhaps what I wrote was a little clunky, but I do feel you're painting a slighty unfair take on what I wrote none the less. I was not questioning her gender identity in any way, just noting how different life can be for an 18 year old and how it's easy to be impulsive about things that can have long reaching consequences.

I do hope for Hallie's sake that any precautions have been taken because to arrive at 30 something and be surrounded by new borns and preschools while you yourself cannot concieve is not a situation I would imagine anyone would find pleasant

Apologies for any offence caused in the way I expressed my views - in my defence though, I responded to the statement you made describing her gender identity as a novelty which would wear off, and I can only respond to the words you write on the page, even if they’re not quite what you meant.

To be fair to Hallie, I would imagine she has felt she is female for most of her life, so the decision has probably been fully discussed with her parents and with experts, and been thoroughly thought through over a long period of time, rather than being impulsive.

In respect to her being able to conceive, she couldn’t do that whether she remains physically male or becomes a transgender woman. From my understanding, there is a very high rate of suicide amongst those who feel they are trapped in the wrong body, so I would imagine that the internal conflict about her basic identity will always be more prominent in her mind than being a biological parent.

[Underscore]

who does

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Underscore

who does

[parmnion]

Hallie should keep her penis, and just be who she is now.

Because that person is wonderful.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hallie should keep her penis, and just be who she is now.

Because that person is wonderful.

Imagine if she gets the chop and then regrets it down the line ?


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hallie should keep her penis, and just be who she is now.

Because that person is wonderful.

The complication I can see is she will still be 6’2 “ barefoot and have size 12 plates of meat ..


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[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The complication I can see is she will still be 6’2 “ barefoot and have size 12 plates of meat ..


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You know what she says...

"I like looking at my male parts and admire them"..

No wonder, that height and those feet, she must be well hung.

No wonder Paul's so quiet.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Imagine if she gets the chop and then regrets it down the line ?

SO many have. I could post a thousand 'buyer's regret' stories. Especially speaking about the lack of sexual sensation after the op, which is huge considering Hallie is holding off in that regard until after. It's not like the guy becomes a biological woman suddenly.

But, those comments in detail would get deleted or I would get a warning at least.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

SO many have. I could post a thousand 'buyer's regret' stories. Especially speaking about the lack of sexual sensation after the op, which is huge considering Hallie is holding off in that regard until after. It's not like the guy becomes a biological woman suddenly.

But, those comments in detail would get deleted or I would get a warning at least.

It’s got to be such a specialised operation I cant imagine too many surgeons have even attempted it !?


You’d want the worlds best guy to be messing around with your privates .. it’s not just got to look right which is vitally important it’s got to WORK and will need to be sensitive and that’s without mentioning the unmentionable …


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[fruit_cake]

She's too immature to fully get behind her but she's still keeping us entertained one way or another in her favour

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Effeminate gay men are just that, while transwomen have a mental disorder called gender dysphoria. Comparable to body dysmorphia, or a disorder where someone thinks they're fat.


Agreed, and she spent nearly three of the "growing up years" in lock down.

Still not really close to agreeing with your belief that trans people are just mentally ill but we’ve been here before and your opinion’s clearly set.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

Still not really close to agreeing with your belief that trans people are just mentally ill but we’ve been here before and your opinion’s clearly set.

Because there's no reason for my mind to be changed

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Because there's no reason for my mind to be changed

Not even the risk of coming off like a total transphobe?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

Not even the risk of coming off like a total transphobe?

I'm not transphobic, I wish them no ill.

I'm not anorexiaphobic either, or depressionphobic, etc etc.

I wouldn't stigmatise any form of mental ill-health.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm not transphobic, I wish them no ill.

I'm not anorexiaphobic either, or depressionphobic, etc etc.

I wouldn't stigmatise any form of mental ill-health.

That’s fine but where’s the exact axe to grind with trans people in your case coming from to begin with?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

That’s fine but where’s the exact axe to grind with trans people in your case coming from to begin with?

I don't have a specific axe to grind, I wouldn't talk about them at all if they didn't come up.

The only thing I have which could reasonably be called "a problem" is when women's rights for single sex spaces or sports are being suspended for transwomen.

But as for them just generally existing? You go, girl!

[GoldHeart]

I just remembered aswell , in Henry's conversation with Jordan.....he said he thinks Kerry sticks up for Hallie way too much. Jenkin & Tom were talking about Hallie's behaviour aswell in the garden. I wonder if she'll get a few noms, it's like people feel too bad to nominate her .

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't have a specific axe to grind, I wouldn't talk about them at all if they didn't come up.

The only thing I have which could reasonably be called "a problem" is when women's rights for single sex spaces or sports are being suspended for transwomen.

But as for them just generally existing? You go, girl!

This is generally my view on it all as well.

[Benjamin]

Let’s hope she goes this week

[GoldHeart]

Hopefully she's gone tomorrow , then Kerry will lose a bit of power.