[Conzors]

I’ve seen a few comments saying it’s racial biased and stuff and seeing it on screen from the likes of Jenkin, Tom, Chanelle and Paul, who are probably from areas where white people outweigh black people, call Trish aggressive for being loud and feisty and strongly opinionated but then not calling Olivia aggressive for being basically the same but not black….

I don’t think they are ‘racist’ but personally I think it is subconscious racial biased and I can’t believe this stuff happens, it’s so unfair and I’m shocked that more people do not see this.

What are your thoughts?

[vesavius]

No.

Moving on.

[Conzors]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No.

Moving on.

Why do you not think so?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Conzors

Why do you not think so?

Because I have seen zero reason to and I absolutely refuse to look at everything through a racial lens.

Because once you do everything then looks racist and that's extremely toxic and self destructive.

[Conzors]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Because I have seen zero reason to and I absolutely refuse to look at everything through a racial lens.

Because once you do everything then looks racist and that's extremely toxic and self destructive.

I don’t think comparing Trish and Olivia’s personality traits (which are quite similar) but looking at only one being labelled aggressive is looking at EVERYTHING through a racial lense, it’s looking at one specific example which is evident of some sort of bias

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I don’t think comparing Trish and Olivia’s personality traits (which are quite similar) but looking at only one being labelled aggressive is looking at EVERYTHING through a racial lense, it’s looking at one specific example which is evident of some sort of bias

But, I suspect that you actually do look at everything through a racial lens.

Which is why you have arrived at this one thing.

BTW, looking at everything a racial lens is a form of bias.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Conzors

Why do you not think so?

A better question is why DO you think so?

[Conzors]

Originally Posted by caprimint

A better question is why DO you think so?

I think so because there are two people who are similar in their confidence, bluntness, loudness and honesty and yet it’s the person who is black that is being labelled aggressive.

I want to be clear I do not think anyone in the house is a racist but I do feel as though there are some biases within the house

[jones89]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I think so because there are two people who are similar in their confidence, bluntness, loudness and honesty and yet it’s the person who is black that is being labelled aggressive.

I want to be clear I do not think anyone in the house is a racist but I do feel as though there are some biases within the house

The garden gang are a bunch of d1cks who say so much **** about everyone who ain’t their friend, they obviously ain’t gonna say that about Olivia

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I think so because there are two people who are similar in their confidence, bluntness, loudness and honesty and yet it’s the person who is black that is being labelled aggressive.

I want to be clear I do not think anyone in the house is a racist but I do feel as though there are some biases within the house

I see that you have chosen to now move on from me now that I have exposed your manner of engaging and that you simply cannot refute my points.

OK, I take that as a win.

BUT... " but I do feel as though there are some biases".. We all have biases, including clearly you, but they are not all implicitly racial biases.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I think so because there are two people who are similar in their confidence, bluntness, loudness and honesty and yet it’s the person who is black that is being labelled aggressive.

I want to be clear I do not think anyone in the house is a racist but I do feel as though there are some biases within the house

Do you mean Trish and Olivia? I think if anything it's the way in which Trish argues with people that triggered the "aggressive" comments (most of all with Paul though and how she labelled him), Olivia is loud in general but she isn't condescending towards people when she talks/argues, whereas Trish always believes she's right and never listens to anyone else, just repeats her point over and over again until they don't answer back...

[CocaColin]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No.

Moving on.

This is a discussion forum. I don't know who you think are to shut down a conversation.

The micro-aggressions aren't apparent and Trish clocked them. Proud of her.

[Jessica.]

The micro-aggressions are clear as day to me.

[GoldHeart]

What annoyed me was how Olivia was loud especially with the smack talk' in the ant task ,yet Trish got all the blame .

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

The micro-aggressions are clear as day to me.

Yep, it’s just as basic as it comes

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

The micro-aggressions are clear as day to me.

This

[Billy]

I’m not saying this as a Chanelle supporter (have gone off her in the past week or so), but I don’t see how it’s racist or bias - if anything, the bias comes from Trish’s own group continuously perceiving her as strong and therefore not in need of support.

Chantelle’s problem with Trish comes from the fact she believes Trish labelling Paul a bully was damaging; whether we agree with that or not, she lives with them and is entitled to that opinion which will then impact how she sees Trish and distrusts her.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Conzors

I’ve seen a few comments saying it’s racial biased and stuff and seeing it on screen from the likes of Jenkin, Tom, Chanelle and Paul, who are probably from areas where white people outweigh black people, call Trish aggressive for being loud and feisty and strong but then not calling Olivia aggressive for being basically the same but not black….

I don’t think they are ‘racist’ but personally I think it is subconscious racial biased and I can’t believe this stuff happens, it’s so unfair and I’m shocked that more people do not see this.

What are your thoughts?

Yes it is racial and black women and men live this out all day in all spaces. At work we actually had sessions where we had a people talking about not being able to be themselves around predominantly white work spaces because they knew that acting anything less than serene or "proper" meant that they would be labelled agressive or difficult to work with, where as assertiveness for example is received with much tolerance from the white race. It's a thing.

[parmnion]

It's a free card for a black BB contestant to use. Shes doing it well

[Swan]

It's possible for a white and a black person to not get on in life, without it being anything to do with race, believe it or not.

[jones89]

I’m curious.. if it was an all-black cast and someone was being called aggressive this really wouldn’t be an issue would it? The whites be evil

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by jones89

I’m curious.. if it was an all-black cast and someone was being called aggressive this really wouldn’t be an issue would it? The whites be evil

But a white person calling a black person aggressive whilst they're absolutely not being aggressive in any form is a textbook microaggression. That happened, this make believe all black cast didn't.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But a white person calling a black person aggressive whilst they're absolutely not being aggressive in any form is a textbook microaggression. That happened, this make believe all black cast didn't.

Micro aggressions are nonsense created by specific people seeking power over other specific people.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But a white person calling a black person aggressive whilst they're absolutely not being aggressive in any form is a textbook microaggression. That happened, this make believe all black cast didn't.

What I hate is the double standards
Olivia is loud yet has never been labelled "aggressive" . But Tom especially loves throwing around the word "aggressive", while he cries over the word "bully".

Trish was absolutely right tonight, the garden group are hypocrites .

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What I hate is the double standards
Olivia is loud yet has never been labelled "aggressive" . But Tom especially loves throwing around the word "aggressive", while he cries over the word "bully".

Trish was absolutely right tonight, the garden group are hypocrites .

Double standards


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