Jon Venables New Identity Revealed

[Iceman]

Jon Venables was just 10 years old when he and friend Robert Thompson murdered toddler James Bulger.

Venables served seven years of a life sentence for the 1993 murder before he was freed in June 2001, aged 18. He was given a new name, (John Paul Williams) a job and a flat on his release to try to ensure his security and give him an “ordinary” life.

Had he gone on to lead such a life, that might have been the last the British public ever heard about Jon Venables. But at the age of 27, Venables finds himself back in the headlines and back behind bars having been jailed for two years after pleading guilty to charges of downloading and distributing indecent images of children.

A lifetime ban was placed on reporting anything about either his or Thompson’s whereabouts or their new identities after their release.

The ban relating to Venables was partially lifted on Friday at the Old Bailey after he was jailed for the offences under the 1978 Protection of Children Act. The judge revealed that Venables had been living in Cheshire at the time of the offences, and that the case was dealt with by Cheshire police and Cheshire probation servic e.

It was also revealed that Cheshire police had produced a “threat assessment” to try to establish what could happen to Venables were his new identity revealed. That assessment concluded that Venables would face the highest possible risk of being attacked if his name was either published in the media or known elsewhere in society.

Police had even trained him in counter-surveillance after he was told he would have to “live and hold a lie” for the rest of his life. Venables worked full-time in a job with anti-social hours, earning close to the minimum wage, the court heard.

Then in 2007, he started drinking heavily and taking drugs, including cocaine and the recently-banned substance mephedrone.

On 20 September 2008, he was held on suspicion of affray over a street fight with a man who claimed Ve nables had attacked his girlfriend. Both men were charged with a public order offence, but this was later dropped.

Venables was formally warned by the Probation Service for breaking a “good behaviour” clause in his licence. Three months later, police cautioned him for possessing cocaine, and a requirement was added to his licence ordering him to address his alcohol and drug problems, the court was told.

It was not until February that it emerged Venables had been recalled to prison for breaching the conditions of his release. The Ministry of Justice refused to reveal any details, but the then Justice Secretary Jack Straw did say the recall was prompted by “extremely serious allegations



Horrible horrible person.

[Iceman]

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

my neices ex works in that pizza hut D:

thats not him btw :|

[Iceman]

my neices ex works in that pizza hut D:

thats not him btw :|

Really? Its all over the internet now that it is him...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Really? Its all over the internet now that it is him...

no i didnt mean that pic isnt him lol

i mean hes not my neices ex

[Iceman]

Oh right I just realised I shoudlt have put that picture or the link...if anyone wants the link PM me and ill send it on.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Oh right I just realised I shoudlt have put that picture or the link

why D:

[Iceman]

why D:

cause it's still against the law to report on it...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

oh D:

i thought the police had like officially released it or something :shocked:

[Iceman]

Nope, I think its okay for the story to stay here but not the link or pictures.

[Shasown]

Nope, I think its okay for the story to stay here but not the link or pictures.

Only in the UK, if the site host is over seas based its safe enough

[Iceman]

Only in the UK, if the site host is over seas based its safe enough

Yeah I was just looking at an irish board and they are showing the pictures.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

cant really tell much from that pic anyway -_-

there must be some clearer pics somewhere

i just searched for john paul williams on facebook /stacey

but there are loads of them

[Iceman]

cant really tell much from that pic anyway -_-

there must be some clearer pics somewhere

i just searched for john paul williams on facebook /stacey

but there are loads of them

Theres more pictures on the original site but its down if you paste the link to facebook and scroll through the pictures before you make a post you can see 2 more but again not that clear.

[Shasown]

Yeah I was just looking at an irish board and they are showing the pictures.

Thats because UK court decisions arent binding in the Republic of Ireland.

If this site server host is situated outside of the UK, then UK courts have no jurisdiction over it. You yourself living outside the UK cant be touched however, if you were living in the UK you could technically be held in contempt of court for breaching the judges directive.

A prosecution against an individual in those cases would be unlikely though. Unless the site was the official site of a UK organisation like Daily Star website etc.

[Shasown]

If you try google with the two names, and are offered a link to a uk fishing organisation to do with carp (add a y to that) there are copies of the photos taken off the facebook profile mentioned.

[Scarlett.]

No doubt some idiot will go after him under the idea that they're some sort of police force

[Iceman]

"paul john williams jon venables" google that and you get a faccebook group that has the photos and links.

[Vicky.]

No doubt some idiot will go after him under the idea that they're some sort of police force

Good. The police obviously arent doing anything, his prison sentance didnt help

Maybe a good kicking will sort his ****ed up head out :/

[MTVN]

Wonder if this is definitely him, a while ago there was a guy who was apparently him and his details were sent round to loads of people, turned out he wasnt Jon Venables but he recived loads of death threats and stuff anyway.

[InOne]

In the doc I say he was apparently round Liverpool all the time. Think he could easily be seen out n about now

[Iceman]

The pictures of him working in the pizza place were already published, when the pizza place won an award or something the Huffington post published them. How his picture could be circulated and nobody do anything is beyond me.

[Beastie]

Which Pizza Hut does he work at?

[InOne]

He deserves whatever comes to him. He hasn't changed at all, whatever "bad" is in him was there from birth

[Beastie]

And yeah hopefully it is the "right" person and not someone else.

[Iceman]

oh it was the warrington post, my mistake

[Iceman]

He's going to be getting an even Newer Identity, what an absolute evil man he is.

[Kerry]

Oh yay, more money spent on protecting this scumbag

[Harry!]

Maybe its me but I sware I saw a video of him on the news today, maybe it was someone else. It is still so bad that he is allowed another new identity at the cost of the taxpayers as usual.

[bbfan1991]

Oh yay, more money spent on protecting this scumbag

Makes your blood boil:mad:.

[Iceman]

Yeah thats why I was bumping this Harry, he's being released today I think

[Vicky.]

:bored:

[Pyramid*]

Great stuff: the country is in severe finacial difficulty and the powers that be allow millions upon millions being utilised to protect absolute scum like this.

I give up as far as the justice system in this country are concerned. :mad:

[Iceman]

It's sick, what Judge could honestly say that this man can reform? He got his second chance and blew it, he never should have been out in the first place.

[Harry!]

Yeah thats why I was bumping this Harry, he's being released today I think

Did they show a modern day video of him because I sware I saw one. In that case he would also need major cosmetic sergery as well as expense of the taxpayers money.

[Pyramid*]

It's sick, what Judge could honestly say that this man can reform? He got his second chance and blew it, he never should have been out in the first place.

Agree he should never have been given a first new ID.

As for blowing his cover, then reoffending. Let him take his chances out in the real world.

It simply beggars belief, it really does.

[Kerry]

Any surgery he has should include castration. Infact I'll pay for it myself....

... extra if they do it with no anaesthetic and a couple of rusty spoons

[Vicky.]

Its just pathetic to be honest.

Hes had his second chance to please all the do-gooders who believe in people reforming...he failed. He offended again. So why the hell put him back out with the public again?

[Kerry]

Its just pathetic to be honest.

Hes had his second chance to please all the do-gooders who believe in people reforming...he failed. He offended again. So why the hell put him back out with the public again?

Plus disguise him. Even with the money out of the equasion, he's a killer. An evil bastard. A drug abuser (not user - I believe theres a difference). Why on earth should we public not have the right to know if we're living next door to it?

[Vicky.]

Plus disguise him. Even with the money out of the equasion, he's a killer. An evil bastard. A drug abuser (not user - I believe theres a difference). Why on earth should we public not have the right to know if we're living next door to it?

Ah but kerry, letting us know who he is...is a breach of HIS rights.

Who gives a stuff about ours. ;)

[Iceman]

It's so backwards whats gone on with him its not funny, that poor little boys Father was at court today IIRC, he has to relive everything everytime this man ****s up his life.

[Pyramid*]

Its just pathetic to be honest.

Hes had his second chance to please all the do-gooders who believe in people reforming...he failed. He offended again. So why the hell put him back out with the public again?


yeah..so much for rehabilitation, and the Human right brigade. If anything shows that prison, new IDs etc don't make a decent human being out of filth and evil like this.

[Kerry]

Ah but kerry, letting us know who he is...is a breach of HIS rights.

Who gives a stuff about ours. ;)

Yeah. Damn. How stupid of me. Wonder if he'd like one of my kidneys.... you know, just incase...

[Pyramid*]

Ah but kerry, letting us know who he is...is a breach of HIS rights.

Who gives a stuff about ours. ;)

Or indeed..who gives a stuff about the Human Rights and Suffering of the parents of the child he helped kill. No second chances for their child - and no justice at all for the parents.

[Iceman]

The father of James Bulger has told a parole board in Britain about the daily nightmare of life since the toddler was murdered by two boys in 1993.

Ralph Bulger made the comment in a victim's statement delivered to a hearing in Leeds Crown Court into whether one of the killers should be released on parole for an offence committed after his release.

Jon Venables and Robert Thompson and abducted two-year-old James from a shopping centre in Merseyside in 1993, and walked the boy to a railway line where they tortured and killed him.

Venables and Thompson were both aged 10 at the time of the murder and served eight years in prison for the murder before being freed and issued with secret new identities.

But Venables was jailed for two years last July after pleading guilty to downloading and distributing indecent images of children.

Solicitor Robin Makin, speaking on Mr Bulger 's behalf, told the court in a video link authorities like to be liberal and don't really want to see Jon Venables for the person that he actually is.

The parole board now has 10 days to consider its decision.


10 days, whats to decide, just throw the ****ing key away

[Pyramid*]

10 days, whats to decide, just throw the ****ing key away

I argee...10 days for what? To realise that him having been rehabilitated for many years, at a young and impressionable age,: when / if any rehabiltation should have been effetive: but wasnt - how much proof do they need that this guy will never change. NEVER.

This country and it's judicial system is a complete joke.

[Patrick]

If Ryan Dunn can die in a Car Crash and Tupac can be shot in a Drive By - then by all means, let's hope he get's caught up in a drive by during his next Pizza Delivery.

What's his new name btw? I cba reading all that.

[Patrick]

no i didnt mean that pic isnt him lol

i mean hes not my neices ex

:joker:

[Pyramid*]

I came across this: no date on it but I'm perplexed at the allegation that a further new ID will be his FOURTH??? If so, I've been slow..... FOUR!!!! What the bluddy hell is going on in our country?




Unmasked: Photos purportedly showing Bulger killer Jon Venables as an adult have surfaced on the internet

The cost of keeping the identity of one of James Bulger’s killers a secret is set to top £1million – after his cover was blown for a third time.

Photos that allegedly expose the identity of Jon Venables have recently been circulated on the internet – breaching a court order that guaranteed the child-killer anonymity for life following his release from prison.
Venables and Robert Thompson were just ten years old when they lured two-year-old James from a Merseyside shopping centre and tortured him to death in 1993. The pair were released in 2001 having served eight years.

The new pictures apparently show Venables, 28, as an adult and were taken before his re-arrest and subsequent jailing on child pornography charges last year. Venables could be paroled later this month and, if released, will require yet another alias – his fourth. Each identity switch reportedly costs the taxpayer £250,000. Jamie’s mother, Denise Fergus, condemned the cost of protecting her son’s killer.

‘He’s a criminal, not on a witness protection programme,’she told the Daily Star. ‘No wonder the country is short of money since it has cost more than £1million to give Venables new identities. ‘He has been given enough chances and he has blown them all. How long can they go on conspiring with him to live a lie?

‘They say he would be a target for vigilantes but that is because he got away with murder. If he had served the 15 years minimum that the Home Secretary imposed on him in 1994 then he would have been shown to have done his time. ‘If he behaves himself in the future there is not a shred of any real evidence that he would be in any danger of retribution or vigilante action.’

[bbfan1991]

What on earth:mad:, poor James' parents having to go through all that.

[InOne]

Think he's been denied parole

[Pyramid*]

Think he's been denied parole

Oh..is this the latest?

Haven't caught up on the news stuff: too busy faffing around on the daft side.

[Kerry]

Think he's been denied parole

He'll still be out soon though won't he?

Needs to be denied air, not parole....

[LaLaLand]

Oh my God the pictures of him made me recognise him straight away. I feel physically sick, evil, pure evil man.

[Pyramid*]

He'll still be out soon though won't he?

Needs to be denied air, not parole....

Cannot disagree there but I guess it epends on how strong the public reaction may be. After all, the powers that be are more than well aware of how the vast majority of the public feel about being given new IDs etc.

It could be a turn in the tide - and back to Brady/Hindley situation - all things considered, given the alternative that the old HR brigade want - even I would settle for that - grudgingly.

[billy123]

Well the cats well and truly out of the bag by now it just took me about 2 mins to find at least a dozen photographs of him.
There would be nowhere to hide anymore so im undecided if i want him to be released again he deserves to spend the rest of his life locked up but i also want to see his corspe hanging from a lampost somewhere.

[Iceman]

Also dont post the pictures on here, bit of a tricky area (why I removed all the links and stuff). But yeah its easy to find.

[Kerry]

Think he'd better start liking drag..........

[Pyramid*]

Well the cats well and truly out of the bag by now it just took me about 2 mins to find at least a dozen photographs of him.
There would be nowhere to hide anymore so im undecided if i want him to be released again he deserves to spend the rest of his life locked up but i also want to see his corspe hanging from a lampost somewhere.


For some poor buggar to have to clean the mess up?

Nope... feed him to the fishes. May as well be of some use in death, he wasn't much use in life.

Harsh, brutal? Yes, but it is the way I feel about scum like this.

[Kerry]

Nooooooo not to the fish. I own fish. They're very picky!


Now hyenas...... they eat rotten meat..

[billy123]

The guy that exposed him had been building a database of convicted paedophiles he has set up a website and published 12,700 names along with locations photographs and a description of their crimes.

Its very interesting you can search your town and see what it brings up there are a few local to me including a teacher from a local school.

I wont post it as im unsure if its within rules do any mods want to advise??
As far as im aware there is nothing on there that isnt available to anybody that wanted to find out its just being put into a searchable database.

edit: website has been live for over a year so most people have probably seen it already it was new to me though.
if anybody wants it i can pm it to them.

[Pyramid*]

The guy that exposed him had been building a database of convicted paedophiles he has set up a website and published 12,700 names along with locations photographs and a description of their crimes.

Its very interesting you can search your town and see what it brings up there are a few local to me including a teacher from a local school.

I wont post it as im unsure if its within rules do any mods want to advise??
As far as im aware there is nothing on there that isnt available to anybody that wanted to find out its just being put into a searchable database.

edit: website has been live for over a year so most people have probably seen it already it was new to me though.
if anybody wants it i can pm it to them.


Curiosity is going to kill the cat. I want to know, but would most likely be better off not. go on..... pm please.

[billy123]

Curiosity is going to kill the cat. I want to know, but would most likely be better off not. go on..... pm please.
You have pm

[InOne]

I'd like to know too bobnot :amazed: Please

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

pm me :amazed:

ive always been suspicious of the old man across the road

[Jords]

He was lucky to have that chance to turn his life around :bored:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

whats taking so long :nono:

[Jords]

Oh PM me too -hopes none around here-

[Pyramid*]

You have pm

Thanks for that.

It's an incredibly interesting website - hell of a lot of work has gone into it. I don't know if I could read half the stories - but if people don't, well ignorance is bliss - and that's not good for anyone.

[billy123]

whats taking so long :nono:
I can only send 1 a min :bawling:

you have pm feel free to post it if you want

[InOne]

Very interesting site

[billy123]

There are two on there that are too close for comfort for me one a teacher at the school i went to and another who lived in the same block of flats as my girlfriend.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

it doesnt tell you where they live it just gives the county for me :L

no pics either

[Pyramid*]

it doesnt tell you where they live it just gives the county for me :L

no pics either

I actually find that quite disturbing Scott, what pictures were you looking for?

You aren't happy enough with people's names and the area in which they live, the case histories etc?.

[billy123]

it doesnt tell you where they live it just gives the county for me :L

no pics eitherwell narrow down your search if you really need to dont just put a city name some of them name streets.

[InOne]

Yeah the city search has got me loads. Glad I've not seen anyone I know or anything :L

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I actually find that quite disturbing Scott, what pictures were you looking for?

You aren't happy enough with people's names and the area in which they live, the case histories etc?.

god are you ****ing stupid woman i meant pics of the offenders and you know what i meant

[Jordan.]

Can someone PM me this site? http://oi56.tinypic.com/23ubh3b.jpg

[Jords]

Site is well made, dont think any from my town.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

just google 'children have rights in society' its the first result

[billy123]

just google 'children have rights in society' its the first resultcool jobs a goodun

[Smithy]

Welcome to C.H.R.I.S

:wavey:

[Pyramid*]

god are you ****ing stupid woman i meant pics of the offenders and you know what i meant


Oh I know precisely what you meant, and less of the ****** stupid woman insults.

I still find it disturbing that you were disappointed that the information alone wasn't enough.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

be quiet

[Jordan.]

This is a public forum and pyramid is entitled to her opinion.

[Pyramid*]

be quiet

No.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

This is a public forum and pyramid is entitled to her opinion.

:joker:

No.

[last word]

[Smithy]

there is a picture scott :s

[InOne]

Some have pics some don't

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

yeah ik but only on some of them

this one happened in the park where i sometimes walk my dogs

http://www.chris-uk.org/simon-heaton/12553

-_-

[GypsyGoth]

yeah ik but only on some of them

this one happened in the park where i sometimes walk my dogs

http://www.chris-uk.org/simon-heaton/12553

-_-

:eek:

That recently added one is ****ing scary!!.

[billy123]

After all that messing about it says on the website that it has been checked by the police and they are happy that it breaks no laws.
so even although scotts already posted it.

http://www.chris-uk.org

Although the guy that made the website has now being sentenced to 4 months in prison for football related violence after an incident a year ago.
He claims it was because he had threatened to make public a list of judges and lawmakers that had being involved in child abuse cases and let off with a caution.

[Kerry]

Already have it bookmarked. Though still can't fathom why Maxine Carr comes up as the first Sheffield result.......

The rest, I'll need to look at more