Question Time discussion thread

[Alf]

discuss all things question time

coming on 10 35 bbc1

vince cable is due to be on tonight with emily thornberry, claire perry, paul nuttall and mehdi hasan.

[Alf]

i know you'll be watching arista

[Alf]

ukip have a voice tonight

[arista]

i know you'll be watching arista



No I record it
and watch over the weekend.

[Kizzy]

I'm watching it :D

[Jack_]

I watch it every week and was going to make a thread once, wasn't sure it had the support on here though.

Liked that guy from the Huffington Post on tonight's show. UKIP's policies and support from the audience is alarming.

[Jack_]

Anyone watch tonight? Owen Jones was on speaking sense as usual, and owning them all...especially Ian Duncan Smith.

Dimbleby got a bit angry at Owen and some heckler in the audience as well. Great show.

[joeysteele]

I saw Duncan-Smith was on, usually a good reason for me to not watch it. I don't watch it on Thursdays, it is on the BBC Parliament channel at 6pm on a Sunday so I watch it then.
I would imagine Owen Jones would do really well though, he's very matter of fact.

[Alf]

Anyone watch tonight? Owen Jones was on speaking sense as usual, and owning them all...especially Ian Duncan Smith.

Dimbleby got a bit angry at him and some heckler in the audience as well. Great show.
i've recorded it or sky plus'd (whatever it's called today)

[Jack_]

i've recorded it or sky plus'd (whatever it's called today)

It was a good one. Last ten minutes are a particular highlight.

[Kizzy]

Argh! missed it...will there be a repeat one day next week?

[joeysteele]

Argh! missed it...will there be a repeat one day next week?

It is on the BBC Parliament channel on a sunday Kizzy at 6pm.That's when I watch it.

[Alf]

Argh! missed it...will there be a repeat one day next week?
i should imagine show, everything get's repeated nowaday's

[MTVN]

Think I will watch for the Leveson stuff tonight, not seen it in ages

[Alf]

that great politition charlotte church is on

[MTVN]

That old lady having a go at Charlotte Church :joker:

[joeysteele]

As a political programme,this is really going down the drain. I found little to inspire me or get worked up about tonight really. A poor panel in my view.
Way too much time spent on the press issue too.

[MTVN]

It was a bad panel, not one interesting person amongst them really

[InOne]

They've discussed all the topics that have been going on in SD for the last week tonight.

[MTVN]

Hitchens is quality, just loves trolling people

[Jack_]

On now :) should be good tonight

[jackc1806]

Ken Clarke, ughhh

[MTVN]

Quite surprised Ming Campbell is so sympathetic to Thatcher

[InOne]

Interesting they're saying she did nothing to help other women.

[arista]

Quite surprised Ming Campbell is so sympathetic to Thatcher


But he looked at Labour at that 1978-79 time
which was Under Total Union Mess.


(thats something Jack on here wants back)

[joeysteele]

No one wants the period 1978/9 back I am sure of that and really it couldn't return because of the laws now banning Union secondary picketing,that was a major part of the problem with strikes.

Just as, and some people seem to forget this one, no one wants the 3 day week,with also the endless power cuts that existed during the Conservative Govt of Ted Heath between 1970 and 1974. The winter of 1973/4 must have been as bad as 1978/9 and that was nothing to do with Labour, it was Ted Heath who failed to settle a deal that had that strike going on and on.

The Unions needed curbing but they acted against both Govts, Conservative and Labour, so it would seem fairly likely they didn't get from Labour what they wanted either when Labour was in Govt.

I groaned when I saw it was Finchley last night, another sort of tribute programme to her.
Ming Campbell had to keep saying he wasn't a supporter of Margaret Thatcher because all he was saying was looking like the opposite.
I found it a rather weak programme really which I expected once I saw where it was from anyway.

The only revealing thing was Ken Clarke stating he was surprised that Parliament had been recalled for the tribute,it was something he said that had never been done before so why was it?

[MTVN]

Should be funny tonight with David Starkey

[MTVN]

Starkey delivering the goods again, ripping into Harriet Harman :worship:

[Jack_]

Nothing that man says could ever be funny. 'Whites have become black' is far from amusing :nono:

I'll start watching it on the live iPlayer rewind feature in a minute

[MTVN]

"It's Bangla-bloody-desh, woman!!" to Victoria Coren was a great line

[Jesus.]

Victoria has taken him to the cleaners.

[Jack_]

It's saddening to hear all these audience members defending UKIP's corner or admitting they voted for them. Some good points raised by them of course, that it's as a protest vote or because they feel disenchanted, so I understand the reasonings - but that just makes it all the more terrifying.

[Jack_]

This Tory

'We have stuck to our promises'

el o ****ing el

[Jack_]

'It's almost as if to be a citizen you have to be on welfare'

deary me

[Jack_]

'You think this £120billion deficit will be solved if old people just sit in their living room watching the television'

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Brilliant

[MTVN]

Oh God, not Germaine Greer

[joeysteele]

This wasn't a bad QT this week, Jo Swinson annoys me and so does Jerry Hayes but surprisingly some constructive and more consensual politics reared its head tonight on the programme.

I still wish David Dimbleby would just chair the proceedings though and not ask more questions than the audience does.

[arista]

Oh God, not Germaine Greer


Yes she is bitter

[arista]

This wasn't a bad QT this week, Jo Swinson annoys me and so does Jerry Hayes but surprisingly some constructive and more consensual politics reared its head tonight on the programme.

I still wish David Dimbleby would just chair the proceedings though and not ask more questions than the audience does.


A Ex MP
Angry chap

[joeysteele]

A Ex MP
Angry chap

Isn't he just.:hugesmile:

[MTVN]

Jerry Hayes is quality, was brilliant on the rape debate

[MTVN]

That woman saying Michael Gove should be Tory leader :joker: never seen a QT audience so universally disappointing of a suggestion

[Jack_]

^ that woman was a nutjob. A laughable suggestion and she had some bizarre views

Also that fat bigoted ***** getting owned by a roaring round of applause just then :love: so, so sweet <3

[Jack_]

Should be an interesting show tonight. Hopefully I won't be shouting at the TV too much...

Tonight's panel:

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/337578541979926529

Six panelists for the first time ever as opposed to five.

[MTVN]

Ohh Ian Paisley jnr & a Sinn Fein member, guess they'll be talking about the Hyde Park bombing then, should be interesting

[MTVN]

^ Didn't realise it's in Belfast lol which is a better explanation as to why the N Ireland politicians are on it. Actually thought that both Ian Paisley and the Sinn Fein guy raised valid points about extremism

[MTVN]

"Do I look like a guy feeling threatened mate?"

Think old Ian is feeling a bit cornered

[GypsyGoth]

Maybe the money these companies make should be taxed as they make it, then they wouldn't have the chance to send it off shore.

[joeysteele]

I think Ian Paisley jnr came across badly tonight, I expected him to anyway so he disn't disappoint there.

[Jack_]

Great show tonight, one of the best I've seen. Thankfully only one odious person on the panel too in the form of Ian Paisley Jnr, who is a vile, repugnant, arrogant, backwards, bigoted, nasty pig ***** (yeah, I don't like him...who'd have thought it eh). A truly appalling human being.

Peter Tatchell was good as was the guy who used to be a radical himself. Loved when he said 'Mr Ian Paisley Jr, you’re yesterday’s news...' :joker:

Also thought six panelists worked really well, they should do that every week.

[Jack_]

On slightly lighter notes...this is brilliant. The Question Time drinking game:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ2qKcFCAAEb7pN.jpg

:laugh3:

And this...

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/337696277720616960

:joker:

[the truth]

Great show tonight, one of the best I've seen. Thankfully only one odious person on the panel too in the form of Ian Paisley Jnr, who is a vile, repugnant, arrogant, backwards, bigoted, nasty pig ***** (yeah, I don't like him...who'd have thought it eh). A truly appalling human being.

Peter Tatchell was good as was the guy who used to be a radical himself. Loved when he said 'Mr Ian Paisley Jr, you’re yesterday’s news...' :joker:

Also thought six panelists worked really well, they should do that every week.

I think what youve just said is bigoted and disgusting

[Jack_]

I think your username couldn't be more ironic

bai xo

[Kizzy]

:laugh2:

[the truth]

I think your username couldn't be more ironic

bai xo

thats because you wouldnt recognize the truth if you smacked you in the face.....I wont waste time debating with a person whose idea of debate is hurling endless grotesque disgusting sub human verbal abuse at anyone who dares have a different opinion. shame on you.:nono:

[Jack_]

thats because you wouldnt recognize the truth if you smacked you in the face.....I wont waste time debating with a person whose idea of debate is hurling endless grotesque disgusting sub human verbal abuse at anyone who dares have a different opinion. shame on you.:nono:

A bit like Ian Paisley Jr did last night? And you wonder why I threw some insults at him...work it out...

[the truth]

A bit like Ian Paisley Jr did last night? And you wonder why I threw some insults at him...work it out...

did he swear AT people? did he call people ******s like you did? NO
He just gave his own opinion that he believes a marriage should be between a man and a woman....Hes entitled to his opinion without being abused by you.
If youd said what you said to him in a public place youd have been arrested for verbal abuse and Id have applauded. You need to find a far better way to express yourself.

[Jack_]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

When you can justify him saying to Peter Tatchell 'you can get married tomorrow Peter, you just can't get married to a man. You're not being stopped, you're a gay man who can get married to a woman', then get back to me. It's not just me that thinks that's deeply offensive, Maajid Nawaz and the audience did too.

Oh, not to mention calling homosexuals repulsive and disgusting...but you carry on...

I'll usually have a shake of the head and tut at those who I disagree with on this show, but if you're going to be as bigoted and as homophobic as that, I am going to insult you.

[arista]

Great show tonight, one of the best I've seen. Thankfully only one odious person on the panel too in the form of Ian Paisley Jnr, who is a vile, repugnant, arrogant, backwards, bigoted, nasty pig ***** (yeah, I don't like him...who'd have thought it eh). A truly appalling human being.

Peter Tatchell was good as was the guy who used to be a radical himself. Loved when he said 'Mr Ian Paisley Jr, you’re yesterday’s news...' :joker:

Also thought six panelists worked really well, they should do that every week.




Yes But he Stands Up for that
never changing,

[Jack_]

I gathered that arista :joker:

[arista]

If you were trapped in a lift with him
you would have to fix your headphones tight in your ears
and turn your music UP

[the truth]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

When you can justify him saying to Peter Tatchell 'you can get married tomorrow Peter, you just can't get married to a man. You're not being stopped, you're a gay man who can get married to a woman', then get back to me. It's not just me that thinks that's deeply offensive, Maajid Nawaz and the audience did too.

Oh, not to mention calling homosexuals repulsive and disgusting...but you carry on...

I'll usually have a shake of the head and tut at those who I disagree with on this show, but if you're going to be as bigoted and as homophobic as that, I am going to insult you.

My opinion of him is pretty low anyay, but after your revolting tirade of abuse my opinion of you is lower....youre vile abusive language shows you to be even worse. Why dont you say that to him in public or on twitter? because you know youd be arrested. cowardly and abusive is not a way to win any argument, shame on you

[MTVN]

George Galloway and Nigel Farage on the same panel, great stuff

[Jack_]

Need to catch up on this at some point cause Galloway and an audience of 16 and 17 year olds sounds good.

Next week's is gonna be unmissable though. Russell Brand and Boris Johnson on the panel :worship:

[the truth]

Galloway is by far the best guest they ever get on question time....whether you agree with his various views or not, the man is utterly compelling, a brilliantly loquacious eloquent Glaswegian with a remarkable depth of knowledge and experiences. his mother of all smokescreens speech is the stuff of legend

[arista]

Boris was good Last Night Shouting
Should Gordon Brown go to prison
for Banking Crime they all shouted back - YES


Utter Bliss

[MTVN]

God I hate Laurie Penny

[MTVN]

Mousey little woman

[arista]

God I hate Laurie Penny


Lesbo Freak




Note : There is nothing wrong with being a lesbo

[MTVN]

Thankfully the much superior This Week is on now

[MTVN]

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1774112287/image.jpg

[joeysteele]

This was a poor show tonight in my view, David Dimbledy is now really poor too as a chairman,he needs to keep the flow going far better than he does.

What a load of tripe talked from Shirley (I could rarely hold a seat) Williams though, although Harriett Harman wasn't much better.

It is right that Labour needs to say if it will reverse this bedroom charge and indeed look at at many other things as to this Govts. heartless and disastrous welfare reforms too.
They have voted against the reforms in Parliament, from that lead, Labour needs to now state that they will look at all the options again and repeal what they can whatever the situation in 2015.
That would now,I really believe be a vote winner if they started that campaign on all that now.

[arista]

This was a poor show tonight in my view, David Dimbledy is now really poor too as a chairman,he needs to keep the flow going far better than he does.

What a load of tripe talked from Shirley (I could rarely hold a seat) Williams though, although Harriett Harman wasn't much better.

It is right that Labour needs to say if it will reverse this bedroom charge and indeed look at at many other things as to this Govts. heartless and disastrous welfare reforms too.
They have voted against the reforms in Parliament, from that lead, Labour needs to now state that they will look at all the options again and repeal what they can whatever the situation in 2015.
That would now,I really believe be a vote winner if they started that campaign on all that now.


Yes David is No good at it
now he is So Old

[the truth]

God I hate Laurie Penny

was she the woman who said every woman should be allowed to cover their faces in every situation regardless of their job, role or responsibility? and that anyone who requested the veil be removed in certain situations like relaying life or death health discussions from nurses to patients or giving evidence in court to a jury, is either anti muslim or mysoginist ? can i wear a baraclava the next time I appear in court or can i go to work butt naked? if everyone cna dress however they like, why cant I?

[the truth]

This was a poor show tonight in my view, David Dimbledy is now really poor too as a chairman,he needs to keep the flow going far better than he does.

What a load of tripe talked from Shirley (I could rarely hold a seat) Williams though, although Harriett Harman wasn't much better.

It is right that Labour needs to say if it will reverse this bedroom charge and indeed look at at many other things as to this Govts. heartless and disastrous welfare reforms too.
They have voted against the reforms in Parliament, from that lead, Labour needs to now state that they will look at all the options again and repeal what they can whatever the situation in 2015.
That would now,I really believe be a vote winner if they started that campaign on all that now.

truly an awful show. who on earth chose these innane questions? the school dinners question was weak and the answers were pathetic. why should multi millionaires get free school dinners anyway? the veil question everyone was too scared to actually say it should not be allowed in many situations, but overall the questions were utterly trivial....what was shirley balbbling about too? you cant have an opinion unless you have children? sounds pretty discriminatory to me....but heyho who cares is sweet little old shirley williams. very ppoor

[joeysteele]

truly an awful show. who on earth chose these innane questions? the school dinners question was weak and the answers were pathetic. why should multi millionaires get free school dinners anyway? the veil question everyone was too scared to actually say it should not be allowed in many situations, but overall the questions were utterly trivial....what was shirley balbbling about too? you cant have an opinion unless you have children? sounds pretty discriminatory to me....but heyho who cares is sweet little old shirley williams. very ppoor

I agree and particularly as to the veil question.I have said on other threads, I think I should have the absolute right in the UK to see exactly who I am going into shops/stores with and walking the streets with as to all public areas.

It astounds me that people think Shirley Williams is relevant anymore, she was from all I have read an at best only just fair Education secretary, she was a total turncoat and walked out of her party, after she lost her seat however, a couple of years before and when they were consigned to opposition.
She won further seats but failed to hold any and now in my view anyway talks the greatest load of tripe you are likely to hear from a Politician.

[smudgie]

Quite boring, hopefully the topics and guests will hot up a bit.
I missed last weeks, recorded it and will catch up.

[MTVN]

Gove destroying Will Self, who'd have thought it

[joeysteele]

Of all the panellests I was really impressed with Michael Gove to be fair.

[Jack_]

Mehdi Hasan :worship:

[MTVN]

Meh people like him always irritate me, just standard populist rhetoric designed to get a lot of claps

[Jack_]

At least it's the truth

'Supported by the International Monetary Fund, those well known Marxists' :laugh3:

[MTVN]

Find a lot of the faux outrage over the Mail article pretty silly, someone being dead doesn't make them immune from critcism, neither does the fact he served in the navy..

[MTVN]

Poor Quentin getting laughed at

[Jack_]

It doesn't make them immune but spinning blatant lies (as is always the case with the Mail) to push their political agenda is disgusting

THEM LAUGHING AT THIS ****** <333333 hope he gets spat at

[joeysteele]

At least it's the truth

'Supported by the International Monetary Fund, those well known Marxists' :laugh3:

:hugesmile:That Jack was the line of the night, I thought that was a great moment.

[King Gizzard]

Mail leaked a letter from him basically pleading for a job from 3 years ago in response

ouch

[MTVN]

Sarah Churchwell making some good points today, not surprising coming from such a great institution

[MTVN]

Paris Rees might be an inspirational figure but I dont think shes the sharpest tool in the box, Jeremy Browne came across best tonight imo

[joeysteele]

I thought it was a rather dull QT tonight, they all made pretty valid points on issues raised.
I'd say I agreed with Paris more than the rest of them however,just.

[MTVN]

Yeah it wasnt the best, Nigel Farage next week so should get a bit lively then at least

[joeysteele]

Yeah it wasnt the best, Nigel Farage next week so should get a bit lively then at least

:hugesmile:I think that is a pretty safe bet MTVN, I am looking forward to that one already.

[Kizzy]

Oh I missed it :( forgot it was on, was energy discussed much?..
Urgh Farage, he's so annoying... not looking forward to his smarmy mug on my tellybox.

[MTVN]

It was a bit, wasn't one of the earlier main questions but they talked about it when someone asked if the wind turbines and solar panels they've been putting up in Cornwall and benefiting energy costs

[arista]

Oh I missed it :( forgot it was on, was energy discussed much?..
Urgh Farage, he's so annoying... not looking forward to his smarmy mug on my tellybox.


But its shown Again many times
today at 10AM BBC2, for a start


Farage is on Next Week in Boston.

[joeysteele]

Oh I missed it :( forgot it was on, was energy discussed much?..
Urgh Farage, he's so annoying... not looking forward to his smarmy mug on my tellybox.

You didn't miss much Kizzy, not this week anyway. It was all very subdued really.
They did discuss energy but in a more round the houses sort of way, nothing really got at as to energy really.

[Kizzy]

Well the BBC have been told to toe the party line haven't they?...
Won't rock the boat now.

[Kizzy]

It's repeated on BBC2 now, not impressed with the shadow energy secretary... too tory like for me.

[arista]

You didn't miss much Kizzy, not this week anyway. It was all very subdued really.
They did discuss energy but in a more round the houses sort of way, nothing really got at as to energy really.


Yes it needed a Farage
to spoke it up.


Also why have a LibDem
that was sacked from the Front Bench?

[Kizzy]

We do not need a grinning fool, question time is becoming a bit of a joke if it keeps rolling out these comedic individuals who have no idea what was, is or will be good for the UK.

[MTVN]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/03/article-2318751-199B2D7F000005DC-461_634x527.jpg

[arista]

Oh I missed it :( forgot it was on, was energy discussed much?..
Urgh Farage, he's so annoying... not looking forward to his smarmy mug on my tellybox.



But Kizzy
Forget Him
its the Others on the panel
that will get Angry and start the Fire Going.

[arista]

Last Nights
worse QT for a long time
as Real Old David had no control
so many talking at the same time.


[I don't like your tone Mr Farage':
minister launches devastating
attack on UKIP leader putting
'fear in people's hearts' about immigration]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2492481/Anna-Soubry-accuses-UKIPs-Nigel-Farage-putting-fear-peoples-hearts.html#ixzz2k4L5CLgU



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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/08/article-0-1949322400000578-425_634x400.jpg
[Row: The pair exchanged verbal blows during
a heated episode of BBC's Question Time
from Boston in Lincolnshire]


Get Control Old David
or let a Younger Presenter do a Better Job

[MTVN]

Wish that Labour woman would stop banging on about "95%"

[joeysteele]

I am still chuckling at Nigel Lawson telling Ed Davey to ''keep quiet''.

[Kizzy]

No mention of opposition day and the unsuccessful vote on the pernicious bedroom tax... ah yes it's the BBC.

[MTVN]

Only 3 panelists tonight wtf :joker:

[joeysteele]

This should have been a really good and active QT tonight, instead it may well go down as the most monotonous of the current series.
Very weak and the daft woman from the Lib Dems was just totally pathetic.

[smudgie]

Not bad at all, considering two of the panel never made it.

[MTVN]

I thought they really missed the other two panelists, without them it was just the three party representatives trying to be the least controversial and just blame the other party for anything. That Lib Dem woman was one of the most boring panelists they've had

[MTVN]

This Eddie singer lady is awful, constantly interrupting

[joeysteele]

Have to say I enjoyed seeing and hearing Annabel Goldie tonight. She is a politician I have great admiration for and just wish her style of leadership abilities were what we actually got as to UK National Conservative leaders.

Enjoyed too the independence arguments, strong points were made on both sides. I agree however Eddie Reader was annoying and way over the top at times.

[MTVN]

Cancelled tonight :mad:

Edit - now going to air on BBC2 at 11.35

[arista]

BBC are stupid
They have a News Ch.

Madella is dead - No needed for Loops from Fecking BBC

[MTVN]

I think so too, they've completely cancelled This Week as well, without trying to sound insensitive I don't see the need when everyone has access to their dedicated news channel

[arista]

I think so too, they've completely cancelled This Week as well, without trying to sound insensitive I don't see the need when everyone has access to their dedicated news channel



BBC Boss Stupid

[arista]

BBC2 still not on?


Still Stuck on News

[MTVN]

Yes they need to bloody wrap it up, they dont seem very concerned about doing so though

[arista]

Yes they need to bloody wrap it up, they dont seem very concerned about doing so though


yes its Crazy

[Alf]

They're taking the Arthur Bliss

[arista]

BBC1 has Mandella Non Stop


BBC2 Newsnight - Non Stop


Fecking BBC

[MTVN]

BBC have really messed this up, if they were going to cancel it they should have just cancelled it, now they're just messing viewers around

[arista]

BBC2 11:45PM QT


On Sky EPG

[MTVN]

They've wheeled out two more people to talk about it now!

[arista]

They've wheeled out two more people to talk about it now!

Its Wrong

[MTVN]

Finally!!!!

[arista]

Thank Feck

[smudgie]

Running late.
Surprised they did not just cancel it.

[Kizzy]

Come on... you can't put off talking about the autumn statement forever :laugh:

[arista]

At Last

[smudgie]

Nick Ferrari looking rough tonight.

[joeysteele]

Come on... you can't put off talking about the autumn statement forever :laugh:

Not a great lot to talk about as to it really, it is just really more of the same to come,(if they get the chance that is), and especially for those who have little in the way of wealth, they are going to have to work for a few more years to come earlier than originally planned.
Doesn't sound much of a success story to me.

he again says he needs more time to finish the job, a job he said in 2010 that 'had' to be all done by 2015 or that would be even more disastrous for the UK.

I really cannot be bothered with Nick Ferrari either in fact.

[arista]

Nick Ferrari looking rough tonight.


Its a Long day
that was recorded at 8PM
so he would have done his LBC Early gig 6AM start
then ITV this morning,
Mega Lunch, Wine.



He should of had a nap in the afternoon

[Kizzy]

Not a great lot to talk about as to it really, it is just really more of the same to come,(if they get the chance that is), and especially for those who have little in the way of wealth, they are going to have to work for a few more years to come earlier than originally planned.
Doesn't sound much of a success story to me.

he again says he needs more time to finish the job, a job he said in 2010 that 'had' to be all done by 2015 or that would be even more disastrous for the UK.

I really cannot be bothered with Nick Ferrari either in fact.

I didn't bother to watch full stop, it's becoming a joke isn't it Joey,Nick Ferrari on the show after the days announcements... what were they discussing topless darts? No wonder MTVN couldn't wait for it to start. :joker:

[joeysteele]

I didn't bother to watch full stop, it's becoming a joke isn't it Joey,Nick Ferrari on the show after the days announcements... what were they discussing topless darts? No wonder MTVN couldn't wait for it to start. :joker:

I actually think it is spoiled by David Dimbleby Kizzy a lot too, someone in the audience asks a question, that then gets lost while David D goes off in all directions from the original question asked asking his own agenda of questions.

That is not the function of a chairman to actually almost end up asking more or as many questions as the audience.

What a pompous arrogant piece of work Danny Alexander has become too.
You are right though,Question Time is now not really 'real' or for that matter even good debate now.

[arista]

Tonight is No Good
it comes from South Africa
talking about their life problems.

We have a Nation Here BBC Feckers



QT tonight was meant to be in Swansea

[MTVN]

Could be quite good I think, South Africa is still a country with so many problems it might provide some interesting debate, QT has been a bit boring recently

[arista]

Could be quite good I think, South Africa is still a country with so many problems it might provide some interesting debate, QT has been a bit boring recently


But its all about the dead one



More

[MTVN]

Looks like an interesting panel, I will give it a chance

[MTVN]

Dimbleby is fed up of the ANC woman already

[King Gizzard]

failing to care already

[MTVN]

Spit it out Botha

[MTVN]

This is great, Dimbleby is in well over his head

[smudgie]

Botha needs cranking up somewhat..and Mrs ANC needs to pipe down a bit.

[MTVN]

Its interesting how a lot of them think Mugabe is someone to be admired and his policies copied when hes considered such a dictator here, think there is still a lot of resentment towards Europe in Africa

[smudgie]

Its interesting how a lot of them think Mugabe is someone to be admired and his policies copied when hes considered such a dictator here, think there is still a lot of resentment towards Europe in Africa



It's very interesting, when the majority of the people f Zimbabwe wish the old bstd woud just die.

[smudgie]

I wonder if anyone will be "dealt with" on the way home tonight.

[arista]

I wonder if anyone will be "dealt with" on the way home tonight.


Yes Nasty Power

[MTVN]

Michael Portillo laying into the news coverage of Mandela on This Week now arista, hope you are watching

[arista]

Michael Portillo laying into the news coverage of Mandela on This Week now arista, hope you are watching


I am recording it

[King Gizzard]

ed balls

[King Gizzard]

One of the most important rooms in the entire United Kingdom and they all act like twatty kids

[King Gizzard]

FFS where is Kate

[King Gizzard]

Don't really have a problem with MP's earning so much, maybe if there's a bigger salary then more people, intelligent people who'd be good in politics will want to become MP's and we'll have less rich kids from Eton in Parliament

[MTVN]

Balls is class, just sits there getting abused all day but always tries to give a goid comeback

[King Gizzard]

yep, can't not laugh whenever I hear ''ed balls''

[King Gizzard]

http://i.imgur.com/EguwG31.jpg

[MTVN]

Its pretty silly how everyone gets angry over the pay rise thing when its an independent review whose suggested it using the research they've done, nothing to do with MPs

Dont actually think they earn that much for the work they do compared to other professions

[King Gizzard]

Agreed

(would pay referee's in football more for the same reasons as I mentioned and you mentioned)

[King Gizzard]

Will be very disappointed if there isn't a Neil Portillo Johnson selfie after this show

[MTVN]

That swaying to We Are the Champions is incredible

[MTVN]

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1506714_724948774195823_1807803341_n.jpg

The lads

[King Gizzard]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53666000/jpg/_53666246_jex_1086877_de27-1.jpg

[King Gizzard]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/27/article-2019296-0D2913D300000578-999_468x701.jpg

What

[MTVN]

Fair play to the bloke, all those years of bachelorhood finally paying off

[King Gizzard]

ross kemp and david ginola on this week tonight, pinch me i'm dreaming

[MTVN]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31/1512214_745551658802201_1161713506_o.jpg

[MTVN]

Not another bloody Scottish independence episode

[MTVN]

Galloway and Starkey on the show next week, amazing

[joeysteele]

Galloway and Starkey on the show next week, amazing

That will be excellent.

[Jack_]

Excellent. Looking forward to seeing Galloway tear that racist **** a new one

who changed the filter btw it's srsly annoying

[MTVN]

Whats been changed?

[Jack_]

You used to always be able to write c ** t (no spaces obviously) without it being filtered like this - ****** (hence six asterisks), or even just the 'n' with an asterisk, but now the filter has been edited to ensure all the letters are filtered :shrug:

People have been doing that for years, and still do with the f and s words, I obviously disagree with the principle of the filter anyway (as do most people on here) but if we're really going to have one we should at least be able to make a distinction between what words we're actually using, on some occasions it's quite ambiguous and that's just stupid, even just allowing one uncensored letter would solve that

[Kizzy]

Its pretty silly how everyone gets angry over the pay rise thing when its an independent review whose suggested it using the research they've done, nothing to do with MPs

Dont actually think they earn that much for the work they do compared to other professions

Independent review my arse...
They asked all MPs how much they think they were worth late last year...
Give them the 11%... and take the expenses, and recruiting spouses, and second homes.
Lot's of MPs do have other 'interests' too that provides an income.
I feel that many should be more active than they are currently, and are made to be accountable for failing to deliver on election promises.

[Kizzy]

You used to always be able to write c ** t (no spaces obviously) without it being filtered like this - ****** (hence six asterisks), or even just the 'n' with an asterisk, but now the filter has been edited to ensure all the letters are filtered :shrug:

People have been doing that for years, and still do with the f and s words, I obviously disagree with the principle of the filter anyway (as do most people on here) but if we're really going to have one we should at least be able to make a distinction between what words we're actually using, on some occasions it's quite ambiguous and that's just stupid, even just allowing one uncensored letter would solve that

Why is it so important to you to swear jack, from what I've seen you usually manage to get your point across as a rule without expletives.
Every couple of weeks you voice an argument for swearing on the forum, why?

[MTVN]

Steady on kizzy, my post there was nearly 2 months ago

And I hadn't actually realised the swear filter had changed lol

[Jack_]

Why is it so important to you to swear jack, from what I've seen you usually manage to get your point across as a rule without expletives.
Every couple of weeks you voice an argument for swearing on the forum, why?

LOL what :umm2: I don't think I've mentioned the swear filter in about half a year, you must be thinking of someone else

In fact I didn't even reply to that thread Shaun made on it the other week, so nope, definitely not me

Anyway - ew at that horrible, outdated belief that using profanities somehow voids or reduces any point you have to make, it doesn't. Whether or not someone swears is quite irrelevant to anything at all anywhere ever to be quite honest, they're just words, words that some people choose to be 'offended' by. But I'm not getting into this again, fact of life is that people swear - we're on a forum which centres around a show in which they swear almost all the time and which has bravely aired the c word uncensored in the 9pm hour on a good few occasions this series, yet somehow we need a few asterisks to protect us from a few letters sandwiched together to create oh such awful words :sad:

I don't swear all the time, just when it's necessary, to emphasise my point or if I'm excited/angry, or cause I want to. The original point I was making was that if we're going to have a filter, at least let us leave one letter uncensored otherwise you can't tell what word has actually been used and that's just ****ing stupid (irony intended)

[MTVN]

Starkey vs Galloway in a sec

[james130]

Galloway is always entertaining.

[arista]

Starkey vs Galloway in a sec


yes

[MTVN]

Great contest, both so unashamedly outspoken and desperate for a shouting match

[smudgie]

Good debate tonight.

[Jack_]

Tory **** just got owned by George

[smudgie]

Blame the kids and parents instead of the school/teachers then we might get somewhere.

[MTVN]

Leave the politics to the men dear





:ninja2:

[arista]

Tory **** just got owned by George

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000634805160/9193b347ca7a545b230256700378f6d2.jpeg

[MTVN]

Leave the politics to the men dear





:ninja2:

For the record this was aimed at that Labour lady not to smudgie above my post lol

[MTVN]

Nice to see This Week ending with a classic tonight

U2P3ww6Fk6k

[King Gizzard]

Starkey vs Galloway in a sec

both absolute mugs who deserve no place in politics

[MTVN]

Good entertainment though. Do agree but with Starkey at least he isn't really a politician, more a historian who's made a name for himself more recently by just being controversial, Galloway on the other hand is actually an MP and wields influence in the political world

[smudgie]

For the record this was aimed at that Labour lady not to smudgie above my post lol

Hahaha.
I was watching the show.:hugesmile:

[Brother Leon]

Galloway>>

5* with foreign affairs.

[the truth]

marvellous episode. galloway v starkey was awesome. loved the fact they made a total fool out of sexist olympic failure tessa jowell and her illegal female only shortlists....
the lady on the far left the economics professoor was the best of them all though. totall honest smart funny warm intelligent, everything tessa jowell was not. whatever happened to the allegantion that silvio berlusconi sent her and her husnband £350,000 gift? money she claims she hadnt noticed? meanwhile galloway rightly pointed out that if u have women only short lists why not working class only , asian only , disabled only
starkey and galloway also pointed out of the 101 blair babes 98 of them the so called more gentle more peaceful less aggressive gender, 98 of them voted for every one of labours disatsrous wars....a far higher percentage than the male voters
they both righly added thatcher was awful and there have been a sackload of dreadful female politicians such as tessa jowell...and the many women mps who milked the expenses illegaly (as did many men)..the tory made some fair points too, the working times are harder for women with children and could be perhaps be looked at....the behaviour in parliament could be less macho too....

but politics is life, its blood and guts and its 24 hours a day and thats the way of the world...women are not the panacea and the positive discrimination for 50% women is insane and women only shortlists are illegal....by the way mrs jowell if u want parliament to represent UK...why are there only 3 disabled mps? does only 1 in every 220 people have some form of disability? no
also as she preached to the far left or tried to about poor people and poor schools, why mrs jowell did u take tens of billions out of grass roots sport to fund an olympics for the elite? aponsored by coca cola and mcdonalds and david beckham. now grass roots sport struggles all over the UK and parks and playing areas are either closing or are charging to much to the kids and sports clubs

[Kizzy]

Aw I love David Starkey, he's so unfiltered it's great lol, I don't trust Galloway... there's just something about him that creeps me out.
He hasn't done as much for Bradford as he promised either, they say he's a great spokesperson but can't actually get owt done.

[Kizzy]

LOL what :umm2: I don't think I've mentioned the swear filter in about half a year, you must be thinking of someone else

In fact I didn't even reply to that thread Shaun made on it the other week, so nope, definitely not me

Anyway - ew at that horrible, outdated belief that using profanities somehow voids or reduces any point you have to make, it doesn't. Whether or not someone swears is quite irrelevant to anything at all anywhere ever to be quite honest, they're just words, words that some people choose to be 'offended' by. But I'm not getting into this again, fact of life is that people swear - we're on a forum which centres around a show in which they swear almost all the time and which has bravely aired the c word uncensored in the 9pm hour on a good few occasions this series, yet somehow we need a few asterisks to protect us from a few letters sandwiched together to create oh such awful words :sad:

I don't swear all the time, just when it's necessary, to emphasise my point or if I'm excited/angry, or cause I want to. The original point I was making was that if we're going to have a filter, at least let us leave one letter uncensored otherwise you can't tell what word has actually been used and that's just ****ing stupid (irony intended)

Whateves.. say what you f**cking want then I don't give a ******

[the truth]

tessa jowell came across as a right idiot last night totally out of touch and profoundly sexist

[MTVN]

Urgh Melanie Phillips

[MTVN]

Look at this floppy haired muppet

[joeysteele]

Really QT is getting so bad now and I could have screamed at David Dimbledy for taking things right off the original question asked and then not letting the panelists answer fully.

He is really a poor chairman for this programme now. I am also plesed to hear the 2015 election will be the last he intends to cover too.

[arista]

Really QT is getting so bad now and I could have screamed at David Dimbledy for taking things right off the original question asked and then not letting the panelists answer fully.

He is really a poor chairman for this programme now. I am also pleased to hear the 2015 election will be the last he intends to cover too.




Yes he is Worn Out
Destroys this debate.

New Strong Host needed

[Kizzy]

Anybody watch tonight?

[joeysteele]

Me,I did Kizzy, it was rather good although David Dimbledy lost control again with some homeless guy who ended up walking out of the programme.

I like Rachel Reeves, she was on the panel and always talks sense. Only 3 topics however again, Ukraine,The Met Police and Immigration,again.

[MTVN]

Yeah good show tonight, some lively discussion and some very divergent views, the ex-Kremlin guy was interesting at offering a Russian perspective but naturally didn't have much to contribute after the Ukraine discussion, I quite like Heseltine as well. Didn't like Aaronovitch at all, seems incredibly arrogant

The thing with that anti-immigrant guy was a bit strange, if it's true that he's homeless it's sad really and he shouldn't be jeered out of the room but he was making some wild generalisations

[joeysteele]

Yeah good show tonight, some lively discussion and some very divergent views, the ex-Kremlin guy was interesting at offering a Russian perspective but naturally didn't have much to contribute after the Ukraine discussion, I quite like Heseltine as well. Didn't like Aaronovitch at all, seems incredibly arrogant

The thing with that anti-immigrant guy was a bit strange, if it's true that he's homeless it's sad really and he shouldn't be jeered out of the room but he was making some wild generalisations

I agree with all that.
I actually also was impressed with Michael Heseltine too myself although I have always liked him as a Conservative politician anyway.

[Kizzy]

I know, tensions seem to be rising in Barking and Dagenham where there has been a 200% increase in immigrants, I think they were very rude to that homeless man, as Racheal said he came to give his opinion as a resident and was unfairly dismissed as some kind of racist crank :(
The police in the firing line again, on the offensive with them again following 'plebgate' I see?... The police today are totally different from the plod of 21 years ago, and are educated to degree level in the practice and ethics of policing. And it's those higher up in the organisation that are at fault but it's always the one putting themselves at risk day in day out that get the flak.
Rachel Reeves did make some great points, she is such a hands on MP around here and is genuinely interested in her constituents.

[Kizzy]

I thought the Times guy was a right condescending twat, ' the children of immigrants will be paying your pension'... what?..
Heseltine reverted to the old tory ' shout down the woman' stance when Rachel was having her say which was out of order but she didn't get fazed by him I'm glad to say.

[joeysteele]

I know, tensions seem to be rising in Barking and Dagenham where there has been a 200% increase in immigrants, I think they were very rude to that homeless man, as Racheal said he came to give his opinion as a resident and was unfairly dismissed as some kind of racist crank :(
The police in the firing line again, on the offensive with them again following 'plebgate' I see?... The police today are totally different from the plod of 21 years ago, and are educated to degree level in the practice and ethics of policing. And it's those higher up in the organisation that are at fault but it's always the one putting themselves at risk day in day out that get the flak.
Rachel Reeves did make some great points, she is such a hands on MP around here and is genuinely interested in her constituents.

Rachel Reeves is for me a genuinely dedicated politician who also directly answers questions put to her.
She is going to be one of the really great performers I think in the Labour Govt that likely comes in 2015.

[Kizzy]

Rachel Reeves is for me a genuinely dedicated politician who also directly answers questions put to her.
She is going to be one of the really great performers I think in the Labour Govt that likely comes in 2015.

I agree she's not animated or full of blarney, I really like that. Her responses are always intelligent and considered but never comes across aloof.

[MTVN]

Would somebody bloody put a gag on Dimbleby

[joeysteele]

They could also put a gag on Susan Kramer too, it was as if it was her show tonight.

David Dimbleby is really bad on this now I agree. Very poor chairmanship.

[Jack_]

I'd like to see Dermot chair this actually when X Factor's over and/or David decides enough is enough, that'd be a good place for him to take the next stage of his career (I could see him replacing Schofe on This Morning also)

I really want him on the panel first though

Dimblebot :love:

[Kizzy]

I would like Griff Rhys Jones to take over, or Carol Vorderman

[King Gizzard]

George Lamb

[Kizzy]

George Lamb

http://img.moviepilot.com/assets/tarantulaV2/embedded_images/1375800915_tumblr_m3d5xh3gKH1rrkavbo1_500.png

[King Gizzard]

Imagine Adrian Chiles

[MTVN]

Lots of whingy northerners on tonight

[MTVN]

"To Noel Edmonds I say no deal"

Classic stuff from Danny Alexander

[Shaun]

I saw a bit earlier and someone mentioned policies being made with London in mind rather than the rest of the country (I assume the topic was devolution although I guess it could've just been the economy)

I'm inclined to agree, really...

[Marsh.]

Lots of whingy northerners on tonight

Sh'tup yokel. :fist:

[joeysteele]

I found it rather a non event tonight, coming after the budget,I expected some in depth debate as to that but overall it was all a letdown actually for me.

[MTVN]

Anyone know what the point of having Val McDermid on the panel was?

[Kizzy]

I didn't watch Dimbleby makes me wanna barf.

[Novo]

Liam Halligan is destroying Andrew Neil about Russia on This Week right now

[joeysteele]

I didn't watch Dimbleby makes me wanna barf.

He is now really poor on this programme Kizzy.

[MTVN]

Liam Halligan is destroying Andrew Neil about Russia on This Week right now

Yeah was great stuff, Neil was really trying to contain how pissed off he was getting

[Kizzy]

He is now really poor on this programme Kizzy.

I know he's the presenter but half the time it's him shouting down anyone trying to put their opinion over on the panel. And if anyone asks a really interesting pertinent question from the audience he straight blanks them! It's really frustrating to watch.

[joeysteele]

I know he's the presenter but half the time it's him shouting down anyone trying to put their opinion over on the panel. And if anyone asks a really interesting pertinent question from the audience he straight blanks them! It's really frustrating to watch.

Totally agree, in fact as I have said many times, he asks more questions now than the audience and often not related to the original question put either.

[MTVN]

We all love Diane Abbott

[Cherie]

I know he's the presenter but half the time it's him shouting down anyone trying to put their opinion over on the panel. And if anyone asks a really interesting pertinent question from the audience he straight blanks them! It's really frustrating to watch.

:fist:

[MTVN]

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/1957886_784013018289398_1678038705_o.jpg

[joeysteele]

Expected a much livelier QT tonight from Brighton, it was really a rather subdued affair.

[the truth]

the feminist was foul and revolting and sexist.....her contribution was a total joke. any man who said what she said about clegg and farrage about women would be kicked off the show.

[joeysteele]

A dismal panel again, this programme is well losing its way now,for me it is anyway.

[the truth]

A dismal panel again, this programme is well losing its way now,for me it is anyway.

its become a show which has a conversation about having a conversation? I think the nic clegg debate was another example of dumbed down bbc , all dictated by the liberal elite

[joeysteele]

its become a show which has a conversation about having a conversation? I think the nic clegg debate was another example of dumbed down bbc , all dictated by the liberal elite

I agree with that, as I say for me it has gone downhill bigtime.

[the truth]

I agree with that, as I say for me it has gone downhill bigtime.

the feminist was a grade A moron......her first contribution when asked about th efarrega debate was .why dont they both pull their trousers down and copare their penises? her second contribution was to wrongly state farrage hates all women? I think she spoke again one more time and of course it was more sexist hateful incoherent gibberish which of course dimbleby and the spineless bbc were too scared to pick her up on

the entire show was simply toothless

[arista]

A dismal panel again, this programme is well losing its way now,for me it is anyway.


Yes the worse MP Peter Hain
over talks and bullys.


This why David is not up to his job on this.


Shut him up

[the truth]

i think andrew neil would do a far better job on question time, hes 1000 times more knowledgable and cleverer and give this week to dimbleby or jo coburn or andrew marr or john humphreys etc

[joeysteele]

i think andrew neil would do a far better job on question time, hes 1000 times more knowledgable and cleverer and give this week to dimbleby or jo coburn or andrew marr or john humphreys etc

Well it looks like David Dimbledy is looking to wind down now, he says the election in 2015 will be the last he presents on the night.

Andrew Neill is someone I don't care a great deal for but he has a good wit and generally in interviews keeps things on topic so he would be good at QT I agree.

To arista.
A politician I find really annoying is Peter Hain, I agree with you on that too.

[arista]

A member of the crowd said MP's should be Black and White
meaning fair on the money they get.


You having a Laugh


MP's are in a Massive Spider Web
Complex
Takes Years to Change
Fact

[MTVN]

Very boring tonight

[arista]

Fecking Harman Labour MP.

No One has said everything is fine

They have said there is improvements in some areas.

[arista]

Very boring tonight


I Blame the FSA
which New Labour brought in.
Taking away the Bank Of Englands power.




Harman MP should not be on this panel
she says the same shiiit every time

[joeysteele]

Very boring tonight

It was indeed, really poor.

[arista]

Farage

[Jack_]

That audience member OWNED Nige :joker: :joker: top draw

[joeysteele]

Far too much time spent on Europe in the main, it is only an hour programme and all but 20 minutes was taken up with that first issue really.
That is a really bad result from the chairman of this programme.

As is the case when Europe come up I would doubt even with the opportunity to do so, few will be any the wiser that are undecided on the issue as to if it is better to be in or out.

That is why I in no way support a referendum in the near future, everytime there is a chance to rationally debate the issue, it gets lost completely and that is how it would be in any referendum debate too.

[MTVN]

The Baroness and Farage were the most interesting panellists tonight, the Baroness is a good mixture of principled and realistic and I like how she completely disagrees with Nige but does acknowledge he's an intelligent adversary to be taken seriously

Shapps is a massive party stooge even by Question Time standards, Chuka's not that much better

[arista]

Far too much time spent on Europe in the main, it is only an hour programme and all but 20 minutes was taken up with that first issue really.
That is a really bad result from the chairman of this programme.

As is the case when Europe come up I would doubt even with the opportunity to do so, few will be any the wiser that are undecided on the issue as to if it is better to be in or out.

That is why I in no way support a referendum in the near future, everytime there is a chance to rationally debate the issue, it gets lost completely and that is how it would be in any referendum debate too.


Bang On Right Joey
thats Old Dimbs' Fault
not stopping Chuka or Lucus
going Way Off topic to have a Dig at Farage.


5 On The Panel
to many for that Real Old Presenter to handle



Fecking BBC
replace him


Its about Questions to MP's
Not keep the BBC Presenter having 3 homes

[Crimson Dynamo]

That audience member OWNED Nige :joker: :joker: top draw

top drawer :nono: