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JTM45 12-08-2017 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9548823)
I'm a bit dissappointed and shocked there's not more of a discussion on this on here - it's a massive issue that's literally happening as we speak with so many underlaying issues within it but it seems to be getting ignored

The people who should be talking about it have too much 'face' to loose in a topic like this.
By tomorrow they'll be claiming it was all a set-up by ''extreme leftists'' or some other usual rubbish.

Tom4784 12-08-2017 09:45 PM

It's an act of terrorism, simple as.

A bunch of ignorant racists gathered together because one of their heroes of slavery has been removed from a town because the town doesn't want to celebrate a ****ing slaver. It doesn't surprise me that a terrorist attack occured, Right Wing Terrorism is a growing problem that will only continue to grow because too many people are desperate to pretend it doesn't exist. White people can't be terrorists after all!

Shaun 12-08-2017 09:47 PM

The country's gone to the dogs. A dangerous playground.

Northern Monkey 12-08-2017 09:47 PM

All the crazies are out in America atm.Watching Youtube there's so many protests going on now.We dont hear about them until something awful happens.Tensions are extremely high on both sides.
I half think the cities have a big part to play in alot of this by going around tearing monuments down with tensions as high as they are.It's a political decision which was bound to cause friction.

JTM45 12-08-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9548865)
White people can't be terrorists after all!

That's exactly it, but instead of denouncing the Fascists & Racists (and risking alienating so many of his supporters) Trump tries to 'spread and minimize' the blame. He's an asshole, as are his 'supporters'.

Scarlett. 12-08-2017 10:06 PM

It's like history repeating itself. Never give these Nazi's an inch.

bots 12-08-2017 10:08 PM

Trump condemned the violence full stop, from both sides. Jeremy Corbyn made a similar statement about Venezuela earlier in the week and yet no-one here felt the need to denounce that stance. Double standards?

Scarlett. 12-08-2017 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9548939)
Trump condemned the violence full stop, from both sides. Jeremy Corbyn made a similar statement about Venezuela earlier in the week and yet no-one here felt the need to denounce that stance. Double standards?

Of course somehow, someone would bring Jeremy Corbyn into a discussion about American racists.

JTM45 12-08-2017 10:09 PM

Sadly, for Trump, his pathetically weak response to the sutuation (via 'tweet' of course) didn't appease the racists.
''David Duke, the former KKK Grand Wizard who supported Donald Trump during the campaign, tweeted the following reply at Trump: “would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.” Trump has spent the past two years getting ahead politically by stoking this kind of radical racist hate, but as of today it appears to be finally catching up to him.''

MB. 12-08-2017 10:26 PM

Three people have now died

Tom4784 12-08-2017 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9548940)
Of course somehow, someone would bring Jeremy Corbyn into a discussion about American racists.

Of course, it's not Serious Debates until the Right try to find a way to mention JC.

JTM45 12-08-2017 10:39 PM

Whereas a decent President would be deeply concerned by this you can bet Trump is hoping that the weather will be good for golf tomorrow and if anyone reminds him about this dire situation he'll probably revert to the ''anything that distracts from my impending downfall/prosecution can't be bad''.
He's probably more worried about not alienating any of the Racist/Neo-Nazis that make up his already pitifully low 36% approval rating.

Alf 12-08-2017 10:42 PM

Terrorist bastard.

I bet it was a leftie, anti-Trump supporter in the car.

Just a guess.

Toy Soldier 12-08-2017 10:43 PM

Honestly... the US has such great potential and yet has managed to create such a ****ing mess for itself.

lewis111 12-08-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9549027)
Terrorist bastard.

I bet it was a leftie, anti-Trump supporter in the car.

Just a guess.

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed it was one of the Nazis
Why would you predict that a liberal would kill someone over a Nazi do you really think they are worse

MB. 12-08-2017 10:46 PM

Also, it wasn't a case of protesters blocking a car (not sure where that idea came from): a car literally accelerated towards a moving crowd of counter-demonstrators and mowed them down

lewis111 12-08-2017 10:47 PM

It fustrates me so so much when people compare Black Lives Matter to the alt right

BLM fight for equality and the movement it's self promotes love and equality
The alt right literally look for hate and preach it - they believe they are better than other because of a gene that makes their skin different

Alf 12-08-2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9549034)
I'm pretty sure it's confirmed it was one of the Nazis
Why would you predict that a liberal would kill someone over a Nazi do you really think they are worse

Confirmed by whom? Let's just wait and see.

And the left ain't liberal, they hate freedom.

JTM45 12-08-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9549042)
Also, it wasn't a case of protesters blocking a car (not sure where that idea came from): a car literally accelerated towards a moving crowd of counter-demonstrators and mowed them down

I believe it was 'Oliver W' who said he'd do the same if someone was blocking his car. He may have added ''and attacking'' to apparently justify purposely killing people. If it wasn't just made up/assumed then perhaps he got it from an ureliable and incorrect source.

lewis111 12-08-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9549048)
Confirmed by whom? Let's just wait and see.

And the left ain't liberal, they hate freedom.

Well it was people protesting the March that were targeted so why would ome target themselves
Can we not hate on left wingers right now when there are literally people om the right killing people and saying they want to burn fags and kill blacks and Jews?

lewis111 12-08-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9549057)
I believe it was 'Oliver W' who said he'd do the same if someone was blocking his car. He may have added ''and attacking'' to apparently justify purposely killing people. If it wasn't just made up/assumed then perhaps he got it from an ureliable and incorrect source.

When you're defending racist homophobic murderers you kinda have to make up stuff to validate your point

Alf 12-08-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9549058)
Well it was people protesting the March that were targeted so why would ome target themselves
Can we not hate on left wingers right now when there are literally people om the right killing people and saying they want to burn fags and kill blacks and Jews?

Maybe mistaken identity, who knows? I'm just taking a guess. Just like you.

MB. 12-08-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9549048)
Confirmed by whom? Let's just wait and see.

And the left ain't liberal, they hate freedom.

"Let's wait and see" says the man willing to bet that the car that purposefully accelerated towards a moving target (a group of counter-demonstrators) belonged to a counter-demonstrator

MB. 12-08-2017 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9549062)
Maybe mistaken identity, who knows? I'm just taking a guess. Just like you.

I mean, when your strongest guess is "mistaken identity" rather than "maybe the group walking the streets chanting about how they want to kill another group actually tried to do exactly that", that's a hell of a lot of effort to defend Nazis

lewis111 12-08-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9549062)
Maybe mistaken identity, who knows? I'm just taking a guess. Just like you.

A more educated guess would be that the literally Nazi targeted the people protesting against them
But as you said it's not 100% confirmed yet so i could be made to look stupid but I highly doubt it

Alf 12-08-2017 10:54 PM

Who's defending Nazis? They're scum, whom both my Grandfathers fought against, why would I defend them?

MB. 12-08-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9549077)
Who's defending Nazis? They're scum, whom both my Grandfathers fought against, why would I defend them?

Then why would you automatically assume that it was a "leftie, anti-Trump supporter" and not a white supremacist or a Nazi?

Alf 12-08-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9549083)
Then why would you automatically assume that it was a "leftie, anti-Trump supporter" and not a white supremacist or a Nazi?

Current form.

MB. 12-08-2017 10:56 PM

(oh, I guess chanting "blood and soil" and doing Hitler salutes at a rally makes you a Nazi now, etc etc)

JTM45 12-08-2017 10:58 PM

It's a known fact that Trump was (and still is) supported during his campaign by members of the KKK and Neo-Nazi groups.

Sebastian Gorka has Neo-Nazi links and he's a deputy assistant to Trump in the White House.

Trump's failure to specifically speak out against these groups speaks volumes.

MB. 12-08-2017 11:02 PM

The additional two fatalities were caused by a police helicopter crash

JTM45 12-08-2017 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9549114)
The additional two fatalities were caused by a police helicopter crash

Extreme Leftist Police ?

Alf 12-08-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9549098)
It's a known fact that Trump was (and still is) supported during his campaign by members of the KKK and Neo-Nazi groups.

Sebastian Gorka has Neo-Nazi links and he's a deputy assistant to Trump in the White House.

Trump's failure to specifically speak out against these groups speaks volumes.

Well he did last year.

I know it won't be good enough for you, but I'll post it anyway.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/03/po...kkk/index.html

JTM45 12-08-2017 11:11 PM

The driver of the car is in Police custody apparently.

From The Independent;

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Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer, who confirmed one person had been killed, said he was disappointed the white nationalists had descended on his town and blamed President Donald Trump for inflaming racial prejudices with his campaign last year.

"I'm not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame for a lot of what you're seeing in America today right at the doorstep of the White House and the people around the president," he said.

arista 12-08-2017 11:31 PM

Helicopter crashed
sad.

JTM45 12-08-2017 11:50 PM

Scumbag mowed his car into innocent people.
Sad.:facepalm:

smudgie 13-08-2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9549211)
Scumbag mowed his car into innocent people.
Sad.:facepalm:

Murdering bstd.
So much hate in this world today.

Scarlett. 13-08-2017 01:22 AM

It's time to ditch the names for these ****ers and called them what they are, not Alt Right, not Neo Nazis.

They're ****ing Nazis, they spread hate for people who aren't like them, give them half a chance they'd commit genocide. Their rise needs to be halted, Trump needs to ****ing address this problem and not skirt around it.

JTM45 13-08-2017 01:49 AM

There's many from both parties calling out these people for what they are and saying that there's no place in America for them yet Trump himself so far refuses to do so.

He's not a leader in any sense of the word and is a prime example of greed and corruption at its very worst.
In his latest tweet he says ''best regards to all of those injured, in Charlottesville, Virginia''. ''Best Regards''..............really ?

iRyan 13-08-2017 02:23 AM

I grew up in Charlottesville, this is so shocking to me


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