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arista 16-11-2022 10:23 AM

Kevin Spacey faces further 7 sexual assault charges in the UK
 
The Crown Prosecution Service has authorised
seven additional sexual assault charges against Kevin Spacey.
The CPS said they relate to a number
of sexual assaults against a man between
2001 and 2004.

There is also a charge of causing a person
to engage in sexual activity without consent.
The charges come as a result of evidence
gathered by the Metropolitan Police,
the head of the CPS special crime division said.
Spacey, 63, has already pleaded not guilty
to allegations in the UK that stretch back 17 years.
They include four charges of sexual assault
and one of causing a person to engage
in penetrative sexual activity without consent

that relate to alleged incidents in London and
Gloucestershire involving three men in their
30s and 40s.

Spacey is known for starring roles in
American Beauty and The Usual Suspects,
for which he won Oscars, and the
hit US political thriller series House Of Cards.

He was artistic director at the
Old Vic between 2004 and 2015.


Dirty Bugger

https://news.sky.com/story/kevin-spa...arges-12748691

arista 28-06-2023 08:23 AM

Kevin Spacey is at Southwark Crown Court today

[Southwark Crown Court will hear
about allegations from between 2001 to 2013]


He arrived Early,
getting in the Court before all the press were there.


Mark White reported Live on GBnewsHD


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06...7938005561.jpg
[Spacey, 63, has previously denied 12 charges including
sexual assault and indecent assault]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-offences.html

Livia 28-06-2023 09:45 AM

Hopefully he can go back to acting once he's found not guilty of the charges are dropped.

Zizu 28-06-2023 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11304742)
Hopefully he can go back to acting once he's found not guilty of the charges are dropped.


Mud always sticks … even if he IS totally innocent


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Livia 28-06-2023 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11304772)
Mud always sticks … even if he IS totally innocent


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I'm a big fan... And he's walked away from other allegations. We'll see...

UserSince2005 28-06-2023 11:50 AM

Ive heard so many stories about his pig behavior and he definitely bi sexual not just gay.

Quantum Boy 28-06-2023 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11304779)
I'm a big fan... And he's walked away from other allegations. We'll see...

Well if Livia is a fan of his work then all let's keep our fingers crossed that he gets away with sexual assault and can get back to making content. Maybe he can work with Johnny Depp?

Crimson Dynamo 28-06-2023 12:18 PM

Some of Spacey's defense statements have been leaked. You can clearly see that its just a misunderstanding


arista 28-06-2023 12:31 PM

Fantastic Clips LT

arista 28-06-2023 12:41 PM

He has left court now.

Livia 28-06-2023 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11304784)
Well if Livia is a fan of his work then all let's keep our fingers crossed that he gets away with sexual assault and can get back to making content. Maybe he can work with Johnny Depp?

That's not what I said. I said, we'll see. You've clearly made up your mind already.

Quantum Boy 29-06-2023 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11304879)
That's not what I said. I said, we'll see. You've clearly made up your mind already.

You said "Hopefully he can go back to acting once he's found not guilty". To be fair I think you added "[if] the charges are dropped".

Also you're a lawyer Livia so you do clearly know that "not proven guilty" does not mean "proven not guilty". Whether or not he's found guilty of sexual assault he's quite clearly in my opinion a creep and a sex pest and while I wouldn't see him go to jail for those things, no I'm not particularly keen to see him back on screen.

Much the same as Depp really. Do I think he should be packed off to prison? No, but I do wish he'd retire with his millions and disappear from public view.

Livia 29-06-2023 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11304947)
You said "Hopefully he can go back to acting once he's found not guilty". To be fair I think you added "[if] the charges are dropped".

Also you're a lawyer Livia so you do clearly know that "not proven guilty" does not mean "proven not guilty". Whether or not he's found guilty of sexual assault he's quite clearly in my opinion a creep and a sex pest and while I wouldn't see him go to jail for those things, no I'm not particularly keen to see him back on screen.

Much the same as Depp really. Do I think he should be packed off to prison? No, but I do wish he'd retire with his millions and disappear from public view.

TS, I'd thank you not to lecture me in semantics or the law. And, like I said, you've clearly made up your mind to an extent that you sound a little hysterical.

Quantum Boy 29-06-2023 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11304967)
TS, I'd thank you not to lecture me in semantics or the law. And, like I said, you've clearly made up your mind to an extent that you sound a little hysterical.

:joker: ok.

bots 29-06-2023 12:23 PM

He had a repeated pattern of behaviour that was pretty suspect. That doesn't make him guilty on it's own, but the viewing public are not daft. In difficult times, it would take a lot of nerve for a studio to employ him in a main role again.

Crimson Dynamo 29-06-2023 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11304984)
He had a repeated pattern of behaviour that was pretty suspect. That doesn't make him guilty on it's own, but the viewing public are not daft. In difficult times, it would take a lot of nerve for a studio to employ him in a main role again.

Unless its a film about a gay sex predator

Quantum Boy 29-06-2023 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11304985)
Unless its a film about a gay sex predator

https://i.imgur.com/XGaAx9c.png

Crimson Dynamo 29-06-2023 01:00 PM

:laugh2:

Niamh. 29-06-2023 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11304984)
He had a repeated pattern of behaviour that was pretty suspect. That doesn't make him guilty on it's own, but the viewing public are not daft. In difficult times, it would take a lot of nerve for a studio to employ him in a main role again.

Agree

Livia 29-06-2023 01:37 PM

So we're saying that even if he is found not guilty, as he has been in the past, then his career should still be over? Probably not worth going to court then as he's already been found guilty on the Internet.

Livia 29-06-2023 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11304975)
:joker: ok.

Say what you see...

Gusto Brunt 29-06-2023 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11304742)
Hopefully he can go back to acting once he's found not guilty of the charges are dropped.

He's already fought off countless other charges. Seems there is a witchhunt against him.

Zizu 29-06-2023 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11305019)
He's already fought off countless other charges. Seems there is a witchhunt against him.


Or not


No smoke without fire .


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Crimson Dynamo 29-06-2023 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11305085)


No smoke without fire .


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a vape?

Quantum Boy 29-06-2023 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11305012)
So we're saying that even if he is found not guilty, as he has been in the past, then his career should still be over? Probably not worth going to court then as he's already been found guilty on the Internet.

Less than 1% of sexual assaults result in conviction of the perpetrator so... Yes.

Obviously you're free to watch him in whatever he's in. I personally am not interested in seeing him on screen ever again, and I hope others feel the same.

Mystic Mock 29-06-2023 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11305012)
So we're saying that even if he is found not guilty, as he has been in the past, then his career should still be over? Probably not worth going to court then as he's already been found guilty on the Internet.

It's guilty by accusation these days.

Personally though I do believe that Spacey is guilty, but if he is found innocent then he should be allowed to have his career back as there wasn't enough evidence to suggest his guilt if that's the case.

Liam- 29-06-2023 07:14 PM

Guilty until proven innocent and still guilty even after found innocent

bots 29-06-2023 07:19 PM

It's about the pro or negative effect his name has when associated with future productions that will determine if he works in high profile roles again. Its got nothing to do with innocent or guilt.

Trump still commands a huge following and will more than likely be the gop nominee for president and there arent many bigger crooks around than him

Quantum Boy 29-06-2023 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11305144)
Guilty until proven innocent and still guilty even after found innocent

There's no such thing as "proven innocent" and the vast majority of sexual assault cases don't result in conviction due to lack of evidence.

In the case of Spacey, a number of unconnected individuals have raised concerns about his conduct. It's not just one random person, or a group of people in cahoots. It's fairly evident that his conduct in the workplace has been suspect.

Quantum Boy 29-06-2023 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11305135)
It's guilty by accusation these days.

Personally though I do believe that Spacey is guilty, but if he is found innocent then he should be allowed to have his career back as there wasn't enough evidence to suggest his guilt if that's the case.

There's now "allowing" about it - such is the nature of show business. He's not anyone's employee. There's no one to "give him anything back". Casting directors and producers will either think he's worth the risk, or they won't. Purely about profit. And that's down to public perception.

Mystic Mock 30-06-2023 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11305144)
Guilty until proven innocent and still guilty even after found innocent

And in Phillip Schofield's case.

Guilty without even being investigated.:joker:

Mystic Mock 30-06-2023 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11305164)
There's now "allowing" about it - such is the nature of show business. He's not anyone's employee. There's no one to "give him anything back". Casting directors and producers will either think he's worth the risk, or they won't. Purely about profit. And that's down to public perception.

That's true tbf.

Livia 30-06-2023 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11305133)
Less than 1% of sexual assaults result in conviction of the perpetrator so... Yes.

Obviously you're free to watch him in whatever he's in. I personally am not interested in seeing him on screen ever again, and I hope others feel the same.

Why does this mean so much to you? Unless Kevin Spacey is something else you have special knowledge about, having looked into it more than anyone else on TiBB.

nd yes, I am free to watch whomever I choose.

Quantum Boy 30-06-2023 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11305231)
Why does this mean so much to you? Unless Kevin Spacey is something else you have special knowledge about, having looked into it more than anyone else on TiBB.

nd yes, I am free to watch whomever I choose.

Spacey means no more to me than any of the other various nonces, perverts, predators and abusers that have been haunting our TV and movie screens for decades.

In terms of things worth giving a **** about, I don't think it's particularly weird or unusual that I find high-profile individuals who have abused their positions being held to account important.

arista 30-06-2023 10:07 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06...8109736337.jpg

[Hollywood actor Kevin Spacey is 'a sexual bully'
who 'delights in making others feel powerless
and uncomfortable' sex attack trial where he is
charged with attacking four men is told


Southwark Crown Court will hear about
allegations from between 2001 to 2013]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ces-trial.html

Gusto Brunt 30-06-2023 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11305085)
Or not


No smoke without fire .


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Let's see what happens. :laugh:

arista 30-06-2023 02:53 PM

He has now left court,
again

A BBC Reporter
outside the court
said she thinks they will take
around 4 weeks.

arista 30-06-2023 09:45 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...24347a765.jpeg

Mystic Mock 01-07-2023 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11305250)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06...8109736337.jpg

[Hollywood actor Kevin Spacey is 'a sexual bully'
who 'delights in making others feel powerless
and uncomfortable' sex attack trial where he is
charged with attacking four men is told


Southwark Crown Court will hear about
allegations from between 2001 to 2013]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ces-trial.html

Sexual bully is a term that I wasn't expecting to hear.

It puts bullies back at School into a much softer light in comparison.:joker:

Livia 01-07-2023 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11305249)
Spacey means no more to me than any of the other various nonces, perverts, predators and abusers that have been haunting our TV and movie screens for decades.

In terms of things worth giving a **** about, I don't think it's particularly weird or unusual that I find high-profile individuals who have abused their positions being held to account important.

TS. Judge, jury and executioner.

I'm still going to wait to hear the case as it unfolds rather than assume I already have the answer.


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