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Omah 15-04-2013 04:14 PM

Liverpool teenagers sentenced for homeless man's murder
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-22155807

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Three teenagers who murdered a homeless man in Liverpool for a dare have been given custodial sentences.

Liverpool Crown Court heard Kevin Bennett, 53, was attacked as he slept outside a supermarket on 17 August.

He suffered a fractured eye socket, a collapsed lung and a broken ribcage and died in hospital six days later.

Brothers Connor and Brandon Doran, aged 17 and 14, and Simon Evans, 14, were told they would be detained until the home secretary approved their release.

Passing sentence, Judge Clement Goldstone QC, the Recorder of Liverpool, said: "I think it is a desperately sad reflection on this society that each of you was party to serious violence purely for the sake of it."

Connor Doran, labelled the "leader of the pack" by the judge, was sentenced to a minimum of 12 years.

Evans was ordered to serve at least eight years and Brandon Doran received six years for acting as lookout during the attack.

The three boys, who all denied murder, were found guilty in February following a four-week trial.

The Doran brothers' mother, Linda Doran, 42, was jailed for 30 months after being convicted by the jury of perverting the course of justice by providing false alibis for her sons.

Her eldest son, Ryan, 23, was convicted of murder and jailed for life in October after he attacked a stranger with a bottle in a chip shop.

Another of her sons, Jordan, 21, was jailed for six months in February for contempt of court after using a mobile phone to capture images of the courtroom during the trial of his brothers and mother.

The judge described Linda Doran as a "pathetic and tragic character".

He said: "You have another son who is serving life for murder. There are not many parents who have that sort of personal agony to bear.

"But then again, not that many mothers would have shown themselves to be either so unwilling or unable to shoulder the responsibility of motherhood as you have."

The court had heard Mr Bennett had been in a pub from 11:00 BST on 16 August and had consumed up to 12 cans of lager.

He left at about midnight with a bag containing cans of beer and slept rough behind an Iceland store on County Road, Walton. He was attacked at about 05:30 BST the following morning.

The jury was told Connor Doran had goaded Evans by saying: "I bet you haven't got it in you to do him in."

Evans later told his friend: "I started kicking him, I booted him and now he's dead."

Brandon Doran stood lookout as the attack took place, the prosecution said.

Mr Bennett was described as "vulnerable" and a "heavy drinker" by the prosecution.

He died in hospital from blood poisoning after an infection set in, causing organ failure, a post-mortem examination found.

Speaking after the sentencing hearing, Det Insp Cheryl Rhodes, who led the investigation, said: "The defendants went out looking for trouble that night and CCTV shows them roaming the empty streets in the early hours of the morning.

"The suffering Kevin endured before his death and the pain and heartbreak inflicted on his family can never be taken back, but I hope that the conviction and sentencing of these young men brings them a sense of closure and justice."
What a family ..... :eek:

They should all be banged up for life ..... :hmph:

Ninastar 15-04-2013 05:02 PM

Just seen this on the news... 6 years is hardly enough

arista 15-04-2013 05:09 PM

Evil kids

Redway 15-04-2013 05:27 PM

This current "justice" system is a mess...just over half a decade for murder.:bored:

Ninastar 15-04-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5937409)
This current "justice" system is a mess...just over half a decade for murder.:bored:

but they are teenagers!! surely they didn't understand what was happening!!!!1

Ninastar 15-04-2013 05:49 PM

thats sarcasm btw :p

Redway 15-04-2013 06:19 PM

Lmao. :p

If the kids involved were, like, 11 then things would be a bit different...but anyone going through adolescence is well aware of the impacts and consequences of their actions. The fact that one of them may turn adult in the eyes of the law in a matter of months takes the piss. :bored:

Ammi 15-04-2013 06:23 PM

..and there was an older brother already in prison for murder as well....even as a mother, I don't think I could give an alibi for my child if they did something like that...he was completely defenseless and literally doing nothing..and that's how they treated him, like he was worthless..his life counted for nothing...

Jack_ 15-04-2013 06:25 PM

What a sad story, the teens need some psychological help as it seems they have a thirst for mindless violence with no sense of empathy whatsoever.

bbfan1991 15-04-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5937455)
What a sad story, the teens need some psychological help as it seems they have a thirst for mindless violence with no sense of empathy whatsoever.

This, but now they are paying the consequences of their actions, shocking story and their mom needs to shoulder blame for failing to keep all her sons under control.

Nedusa 15-04-2013 10:27 PM

Wow... I bet they didn't think they would be starting very long prison sentences as a result of this , they probably thought they would give him a kicking and it would be a laff...!!

They probably thought no one would know and if the police found them they could never prove it and even if they did they might get fined or a couple of months inside.

Boy !!! We're they wrong , minimum prison terms of 12,8 and 6 years bet they didn't see that coming, all their teenage years gone no parties, no girlfriends, no holidays, no good times no nothing just prison...!!!

Was it worth it ... No and they have years and years to regret the actions of that night..!! But they killed an innocent stranger for no reason and must pay the price.

Still shouldn't be too bad at least they won't miss the rest of their family, as they are all in Prison also (although probably not the same prison)

What a family ... Imagine living next door to them...!!!!

Kizzy 16-04-2013 12:01 AM

These are the families that slip through the net, it must have been obvious from a young age this woman was not coping here with all these sons.
I am not blaming the system, they were in the wrong, however there are many families that are left to their own devices that if picked up early could be supported to prevent these cases?

Jake. 16-04-2013 12:05 AM

Very sad, the sentences are pathetic though

Nedusa 16-04-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5937951)
These are the families that slip through the net, it must have been obvious from a young age this woman was not coping here with all these sons.
I am not blaming the system, they were in the wrong, however there are many families that are left to their own devices that if picked up early could be supported to prevent these cases?

I agree, once the boys reached puberty they probably took over control of the family including the mum, she was probably threatened with violence on a casual basis. They effectively then indulged in whatever criminal activity they saw fit.

The sadness of their impoverished young lives replaced with the gratification of casual violence..

What a sad story for all concerned. Perhaps they would have had more of a chance in a children's home but on further reflection probably the outcomes would have been the same.....!!!!

Cherie 16-04-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5937951)
These are the families that slip through the net, it must have been obvious from a young age this woman was not coping here with all these sons.
I am not blaming the system, they were in the wrong, however there are many families that are left to their own devices that if picked up early could be supported to prevent these cases?

How many sons are we talking about? the report says 3 sons, 23, 17 and 14. Decent age gaps between all 3, are there others?

Niamh. 16-04-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5937452)
..and there was an older brother already in prison for murder as well....even as a mother, I don't think I could give an alibi for my child if they did something like that...he was completely defenseless and literally doing nothing..and that's how they treated him, like he was worthless..his life counted for nothing...

Yeah, as much as I love my son I don't think I'd be doing him any favours by protecting him if he did something like that. It does seem, from reading the little bit about the family though that it's a case of nurture rather than nature here so her giving the alibi isn't surprising.

Poor man though, jesus, I can't understand how people could get enjoyment out of inflicting pain on a defenseless stranger

Omah 16-04-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 5938125)
How many sons are we talking about? the report says 3 sons, 23, 17 and 14. Decent age gaps between all 3, are there others?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-22155807

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Another of her sons, Jordan, 21, was jailed for six months in February for contempt of court after using a mobile phone to capture images of the courtroom during the trial of his brothers and mother.

Cherie 16-04-2013 10:30 AM

Okay so 4 sons, end of the day if you pop them out you got to take responsibility for them, where is Pops in all this gone awol I suppose.

Omah 16-04-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 5938195)
Okay so 4 sons, end of the day if you pop them out you got to take responsibility for them, where is Pops in all this gone awol I suppose.

Yeah, he's long gone - no mention of a father at all in any of the reports.

Nedusa 16-04-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5938256)
Yeah, he's long gone - no mention of a father at all in any of the reports.

She's probably a four by four (4 x 4) ....!!!


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