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When it comes to race, I think racebending is fine as long as the character's race isn't an important part of the story but I don't think a white person should ever play a black character or a black character play an asian person ETC. The creator of Ghost in the Shell actually supported her casting but I remember feeling uncomfortable when she went around calling herself 'Motoko Kusanagi'. I think there's wriggle room when it comes to stories like Ghost in the Shell but I just think that film handled it poorly. I think Altered Carbon did a better job of telling that kind of story better. I do disagree with controversies surrounding cisgendered actors portraying trans characters though. I think it's great if you can cast a trans person in the role but I think the story is often more important than the actor portraying it. I also think there's a certain level of hypocrisy in the reaction to Scarlett being cast in that film that was highlighted well by Sonique who is a trans drag queen who basically made the point of saying that a lot of trans people complain if they are only considered for trans roles so if they want to play cisgendered roles then they can't really oppose the opposite either. Same with sexuality really, there was a film released a year or two ago called Love, Simon and that got hit with a lot of controversy from the LGBT community because the lead wasn't a gay actor and I find that ridiculous. Actors shouldn't be limited to only playing their sexuality and actors shouldn't be typecast for it either. Last edited by Tom4784; 19-07-2019 at 04:17 PM. |
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I agree with pretty much all of this.
I don't know if anyone whinged about the casting of Ariel in the upcoming Mermaid movie, but that doesn't matter as her race isn't tied into the story; changing the race of Mulan or Poke wouldn't work, as they are Chinese and Native American respectively. I had to google Ghost in the Shell just now to see the story, and it doesn't look like it's tied into race so, like Mermaid, it could be any. There are so few trans people full stop, let alone actors, so it's understandable they wouldn't prioritize this when casting. Especially if they want a Big Name. Double especially if they need to look a certain way - in Ugly Betty, Alexis Meade needed to appear to be a beautiful woman. As for sexualities ... if all actors could only play their own sexuality, Broadway would close down!
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I agree with you Dezzy
Their job is to act and they are doing that, as you said they shouldn't be a limit on what they can do.It would be nice if a transgender did have the roles but it's all about the story and how they tell it, Scarlett might have been better in her audition/screen test.
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The best actor should get the jobs, shoehorning minorities into roles doesn’t work when it comes to Hollywood, it’s all about the quality of the product, obviously if a minority happens to be the best for the job, crack on, but actors are actors for a reason, they should be able to play anyone, people need to get a grip.
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As long as the actors aren't playing races they're not (especially involving such offensive things blackface or yellowface) I don't see the issue in switching ethnicity to suit whichever actor is playing the role. However, whitewashing isn't a good look.
When it comes to sexuality, accent, trans-status I don't see the problem in anyone playing the role as long as they can do it. |
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Can you name a trans actress who's as hot as Rebecca Romijn?
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I went right off ScarJo when someone asked her in an interview if she had seen Infinity War and she said (in a non-joking way - she also knew nothing about the film or any of the characters other than her own) something like "lol no I have a life".
I mean I know plenty of people aren't into these sorts of films but honestly having a straight up dig at the millions of people that are writing your pay cheques? ![]() There's a few MCU actors who are like this about the films and it's crappy ![]() Tom Holland should get her part in whatever this is ![]() |
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Are you sure she wasn't joking?
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Suddenly, the lack of main role for Black Widow and the delay for her own solo film seems deserved.
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It's a shame really, Black Widow is great tbh
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Hollywood is currently in its worst state in history. The art of film making has, like many other things, been infested with political correctness, and political correctness ruins everything.
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Depends if they're good or not. They shouldn't be cast if they're not the best person for the job. But these days it's not about who's best for the job, it's about, do they tick diversity boxes?
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How do you differentiate between seeing a minority on screen and concluding "a diversity box" and seeing a minority and concluding "actor won the role on merit". And don't say "the bad ones" because there's plenty of poor actors across the board. |
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Didn't the BBC set diversity quotas a few years back?
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It's not positive or negative, just something that is.
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