[Quantum Boy]

...and this basic stance -- and there's really no argument that it is not both his stance, and at the root of all of his business models -- is fundamentally at odds with the goals and very idea of MAGA isolationism.

Something has to give, and I wonder when it will be.

Discuss? Maybe?

[bots]

Yep, there is a clear dividing line with the folks that provided trump with the money to win all not supporting maga. Also, not many of the mega wealthy are into fossil fuels, so how is that all going to work out. Get popcorn is my advice

[arista]

But Elon works for President Trump

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by arista

But Elon works for President Trump

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by arista

But Elon works for President Trump

Even if you include Trump's recent $TRUMP crypto scam, Musk is 7x - 8x richer than Trump.

If you don't include the crypto scam, he's over 50x richer.

He is using Trump for his own reasons. He's not even a Republican.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Even if you include Trump's recent $TRUMP crypto scam, Musk is 7x - 8x richer than Trump.

If you don't include the crypto scam, he's over 50x richer.

He is using Trump for his own reasons. He's not even a Republican.

Yes
that is normal for him
to cash in.


But he still works for President Trump
improving the USA.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by arista

But he still works for President Trump
improving the USA.

He only works for himself and he only works towards his own goals. If you don't know that about Elon Musk, you don't know anything about anyone.

[Swan]

People worry about Trump, when in reality he's not the threat to democracy people like to make out him out to be, not really. Musk is in a different category altogether. He wants world domination. He's the guy we should be worrying about. Im no Trump fan (though he's better for America than any other politician atm imo), but Musk, well, there's something sinister and worrying behind those eyes. There's certainly an ulterior motive here, him up Trump's arse. I see a big public falling out between the two in the coming years.

[arista]

[Musk, well, there's something sinister and worrying behind those eyes.]


South African Eyes

[arista]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

He only works for himself and he only works towards his own goals. If you don't know that about Elon Musk, you don't know anything about anyone.

Of Couse Musk
has his views.


But he is still working for the President

[arista]

This Bishop stuck up for illegal migrant workers


That was wrong of her.


Trump/Vance/Musk
are now arresting illegal migrants
even if they are in a job

[arista]

Also going CNN HD
does not help


Trump has No Mercy

[Glenn.]

There was nothing wrong in what she said. If you think having human decency and mercy is wrong then you’re the problem.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There was nothing wrong in what she said. If you think having human decency and mercy is wrong then you’re the problem.

It was the wrong location
for that.

Many in the USA are saying.

[Glenn.]

In a church? The wrong place?

The are swathes of America that voted for a sexual predator. It’s them that have the issue with what she said. The dumbest part of the population.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

In a church? The wrong place?

Stop pretending you've found God!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beso

Stop pretending you've found God!

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

Stop pretending you've found God!

Where did I say I’d found god?

[Glenn.]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

This Bishop stuck up for illegal migrant workers


That was wrong of her.


Trump/Vance/Musk
are now arresting illegal migrants
even if they are in a job

Bishop endorses criminal, illegal activity.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Swan

People worry about Trump, when in reality he's not the threat to democracy people like to make out him out to be, not really. Musk is in a different category altogether. He wants world domination. He's the guy we should be worrying about. Im no Trump fan (though he's better for America than any other politician atm imo), but Musk, well, there's something sinister and worrying behind those eyes. There's certainly an ulterior motive here, him up Trump's arse. I see a big public falling out between the two in the coming years.

I agree and not; I don't think Trump on his own has any active desire to be a threat to democracy, I think he's just entirely self-serving and have always said that... I don't think he even gives a stuff about "dynasty" etc, I think he'd be quite "pleased" to be looking from an afterlife and seeing Little Trumps in power, but ultimately, I don't think he cares much at all about what happens once he's gone. He's here to live his own life in entertainment (he enjoys the power and attention) and comfort and that's about it.

However... on the same note... I don't think he CARES about there being a threat to democracy, and has no issue with Musk being a threat to democracy so long as it doesn't upset his own apple cart and these characters have some utility for his own interests. He has no interest in protecting or upholding democracy, in any philosophical sense. I don't think he gives a toss one way or the other what happens to the world or to the average person.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

In a church? The wrong place?

I mean I don't disagree with that to be fair, I don't put my actual moral decency hand-in-hand with religion most of the time. It's not a great predictor of it, at the very least.

[Glenn.]

Religious or not, the message was about being kind and having empathy. To act like a human being. Something none of the monsters shifting in their seats know how to. It was repulsing to see their reactions as she was talking.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Swan

People worry about Trump, when in reality he's not the threat to democracy people like to make out him out to be, not really. Musk is in a different category altogether. He wants world domination. He's the guy we should be worrying about. Im no Trump fan (though he's better for America than any other politician atm imo), but Musk, well, there's something sinister and worrying behind those eyes. There's certainly an ulterior motive here, him up Trump's arse. I see a big public falling out between the two in the coming years.

yep

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The right when people accuse them on using religion to hate people:
RELIGION PROMOTES LOVE!

The right when religion actually does promote a love they don't agree with: