[arista]

[Ban smoking on all your grounds, hospitals urged: Patients face fines for breaking rules
Staff would be banned from escorting patients outside for a cigarette
Car parks, shelters and gardens would also become smoke free
Plans a result of new guidelines by health watchdog "NICE"]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz2lpidgbIk







Yes it is wrong that patients are sneaking out for a Fag.
While at Hospital - No smoking.
Thats Fair.



Sign Of The Times

[HD]

Agreed

[Lee.]

I don't actually agree with this. Like it or not, smokers need to be able to smoke somewhere.

[HD]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I don't actually agree with this. Like it or not, smokers need to be able to smoke somewhere.

Maybe a designated smoking area.
Nothing worse than them lingering around the entrances

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by HD

Maybe a designated smoking area.
Nothing worse than them lingering around the entrances

Yes, I agree with this. There's nothing worse than a crowd of smokers hunched over in their dressing gowns at the hospital entrance..
They're talking about banning it on NHS grounds completely though..

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I don't actually agree with this. Like it or not, smokers need to be able to smoke somewhere.

Neither do I and in fact when I was regularly visiting someone in Hospital,it was as much the staff that were outside smoking as well as Patients.

Until it is actually illegal to smoke in this Country then the open air should be somewhere someone can smoke if they wish to.

Often the hospital grounds are large and to insist that patients who smoke would have to leave the hospital grounds and be some distance from the Hospital building is neither practical or right in my view.

I don't smoke and I understand like many things, it can be harmful to health but it is legal to smoke in the UK so this is again a removal of what should be a right.
Also bearing in mind where the patients may need to have to go for the odd cigarette,it could prove to be a dangerous move too.

[Cranbenny Jamin]

I don't agree with this. Smokers should still be able to smoke if hospitalised. Not by the entrance but there should be a designated smoking area.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Ben

I don't agree with this. Smokers should still be able to smoke if hospitalised. Not by the entrance but there should be a designated smoking area.

Yeah.. Being in hospital can be stressful enough without being deprived of nicotine.

[HD]

Provide them with patches/e-cigs maybe?
(Or take their own)

[waterhog]

can not believe it has taken this long ?

common sense is prevailing.

well done NHS- would do a poem but to obsessed with i'm a celeb at present.

[HD]

Originally Posted by waterhog

would do a poem but.......

praise jesus, hallelujah

[Cranbenny Jamin]

If a smoker wants to smoke then why should they be denied, especially while in hospital? As long as it is in a designated smoking area I don't see the issue.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ben

If a smoker wants to smoke then why should they be denied, especially while in hospital? As long as it is in a designated smoking area I don't see the issue.

Because like that Photo
they Abuse the No Smoking area.



While at Hospital
Stop Smoking
it will not kill you

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by arista

Because like that Photo
they Abuse the No Smoking area.



While at Hospital
Stop Smoking
it will not kill you

If it were that simple and easy Arista, there'd hardly be any smokers!

[Cranbenny Jamin]

Originally Posted by arista

Because like that Photo
they Abuse the No Smoking area.



While at Hospital
Stop Smoking
it will not kill you

I get that they shouldn't be smoking by entrances, but I find it ridiculous to forbid smokers entirely from having a cigarette. If they want to smoke let them.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

Because like that Photo
they Abuse the No Smoking area.



While at Hospital
Stop Smoking
it will not kill you

Well... That's not necessarily true... If someone is in hospital for, say, blood pressure or heart issues (maybe caused by smoking, ironically) then stopping cold-turkey like that actually COULD kill them. It's highly chemically addictive - some weird and wonderful things happen to the body of people trying to quit - such as blood pressure spikes, anxiety attacks, etc... If you're not in the best of health, best to wean off slowly, not just stop. Same goes for pregnant women who are very heavy smokers - they should cut it out ASAP, but that means within a few weeks of finding out, not just there in the spot. A bloodpressure spike would be considered more risky for the pregnancy than smoking itself.

Why it can't be outright made illegal: for one, the tax money, but moreso, because you can't release a highly addictive substance for hundreds of years as legal (and make money from it), wait until a huge chunk of the population is addicted, and then say "sorry its illegal now! off to jail with you, junkies!". The process of banning it outright would be long, and expensive.

More on the topic of the thread - they should just find the area of the hospital with the worst aesthetics - maybe where the medical waste is collected - and have a sort of prison exercise yard style "smokers cage" where they all shuffle around like zombies having their cigarettes, out of sight. I definitely agree that there's nothing more foul than people puffing away at the main entrance. Or worse - the entrance to the maternity unit. sigh!

[HD]

Y'all need to get some Champix. I smoked for 12 years. Not even tempted now :')

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by HD

Y'all need to get some Champix. I smoked for 12 years. Not even tempted now :')

I've heard horrible things about champix.. Having said that, I know a couple of people who have used it successfully.

I don't smoke anymore.. I "vape"

[AnnieKristmas]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I've heard horrible things about champix.. Having said that, I know a couple of people who have used it successfully.

I don't smoke anymore.. I "vape"

Oooh...I vape too Lee. I'm just as hooked but at least its not as bad as smoking...

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Oooh...I vape too Lee. I'm just as hooked but at least its not as bad as smoking...

I've not had a cigarette for 14 weeks now... It's saved me a bloody fortune tbh!

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I've heard horrible things about champix.. Having said that, I know a couple of people who have used it successfully.

I don't smoke anymore.. I "vape"

My friend used Champix and quit successfully. He never had any problems with it.
When I decided I wanted to quit I went to the doctor in the hope he would give me them but he refused

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

My friend used Champix and quit successfully. He never had any problems with it.
When I decided I wanted to quit I went to the doctor in the hope he would give me them but he refused

Have you any history of depression/anxiety etc? They won't prescribe to anybody who has as it can bring on suicidal feelings

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Have you any history of depression/anxiety etc? They won't prescribe to anybody who has as it can bring on suicidal feelings

Nothing of the sort.

He put me on a smoking group thing, but I couldn't attend because if work. I only wanted the tablets.

I just looked on Amazon and they're £60-£175

[Jemal]

Can someone actually tell me why smoking isnt banned all together?
It's not like it offers any goodness for you so why in god name is it not banned all together?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Can someone actually tell me why smoking isnt banned all together?
It's not like it offers any goodness for you so why in god name is it not banned all together?

Because of its History



Like in the 1950's in a Hospital
you could smoke on your bed