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Old 28-06-2014, 09:50 AM #1
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Well what do you think?

It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out
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No, They did the right thing the male cast needs evicting apart from Matthew and Mark
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No, They did the right thing the male cast needs evicting apart from Matthew and Mark
[2] It's all girls that have been evicted so far, some of the guys need to go.
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[2] It's all girls that have been evicted so far, some of the guys need to go.
Why though?

Just to make it even? it doesn't even make sense saying that tbh.
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Why though?

Just to make it even? it doesn't even make sense saying that tbh.
Just my opinion, I'd just like to see Marlon and Ash go if I'm honest, I can't stand them
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Just my opinion, I'd just like to see Marlon and Ash go if I'm honest, I can't stand them
That's fair enough at least you have a reason for wanting them out I just think saying they NEED to be out to balance the male/female presence in the house is pointless.
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Just my opinion, I'd just like to see Marlon and Ash go if I'm honest, I can't stand them
Unfortunately Ash (and probably Steven) will be safe this week unless someone is brave enough to go against what Helen wants. (Unless the girls nominate privately in the DR.)

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They are doing it because too many girls are going, but yes, if it was the other way around there would be uproar. Where do you draw the line? All the blacks up for nomination? Everyone with green eyes up for nomination?
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No, They did the right thing the male cast needs evicting apart from Matthew and Mark
If they were needing evicting the public would have voted the ones that were up out, they never?

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They are doing it because too many girls are going, but yes, if it was the other way around there would be uproar. Where do you draw the line? All the blacks up for nomination? Everyone with green eyes up for nomination?
Yep I agree with this

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If they were needing evicting the public would have voted the ones that were up out, they never?
It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable

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It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable
It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.

And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that?

If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.

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This is why BB is so tame now, "discrimination!!", "Racist!!,

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It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.

And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that?

If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.
Wasn't true yesterday, Ash is still in, who has acted far more foul than Toya did, the voting public has a large proportion of teen girls who do undeniably favour hot guys

BB is just evening the gender ratio, it is meant to be a social experiment, it doesn't work with all guys/all girls.

I don't understand the uproar the girls are voted out first each series, theres no need to worry about a guy going, Ash/Marlon were going to be evicted regardless
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It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.

And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that?

If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.
Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?

If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their gender then why is this discrimination?

Its just like any other twist, no big deal.

Was BB8 Sexist? LOL!!

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It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable
Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!

The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.

I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly!
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Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!

The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.

I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly!
..really good post JTM...I think with the last bit..?..I've always thought, yeah it's ok if this is how they want it/like a different 'hero/villian' type BB which is edited to lead the public and manipulate their thoughts ..but I would rather it be called something different/change in other ways so that we can judge it differently and not always compare it to the old style, which we naturally do...
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By changing everything
this is Big Brothers Right

No one predicted this


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but they need to balance out the Male and Females
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Well what do you think?

It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out
I feel for the chrisses and winston but that's about it... the rest of the lads are just as bitchy.

It's as unfair as the rest of the twists and is a manipulation of the nomination process, I don't like it.
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I think it is. It clearly shows the producers have favouritism towards the females over males. Yes the guys aren't that interesting although producers on a show like this shouldn't have opinions making it across into the show. They need to stay neutral and let the housemates form how the group continues.

I thought a male was going to go next week anyway. Maybe if they wanted a sex-only power week they should have done a head-to-head thing for each sex to fight for the power... I don't like how this girl only thing it too forcefully producer lead.

We've have producers manipulate this show all the time, especially with noms, but this is one step too far.
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I think it is. It clearly shows the producers have favouritism towards the females over males. s
All Big Brothers try to create a diverse cast so that different groups within the public can find someone they enjoy watching. If you suddenly have all the women getting kicked outta the house you're going to lose dynamics that would entice people to watch the show and lose viewers. If more girls keep going they are going to end up with only one option; adding more females into the house (which would probably be more interesting in the long run anyways: P)
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Its the game, its big brother.
The girls are out because they have been pricks.
Whats the point of all this changing because girls have been twats and boys have been less twats lol.

If this was the other way around, the reaction would be priceless lol.
Ah oh well. Aslong as winston doesn't go (which he won't hopefully) i don't really care.
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Ah oh well. Aslong as winston doesn't go (which he won't hopefully) i don't really care.
Who is winston
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Boys have been pricks also, I get Tamara & Pauline going, but Toya was no way the most horrible person there, she tried to make the house fair, but the public were too dense to realise it
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