[Kizzy]

Do you believe in God? How confident are you in your view? Let’s put your belief (or lack of it) to the test.

Read aloud the following statements. Don’t just think about them or mutter them to yourself – shout them out:
I dare God to make my life miserable.
I dare God to make my home catch fire.
I dare God to turn all of my friends against me.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...quiz?CMP=fb_gu

[Kizzy]

Yes I'm a believer, I wouldn't even whisper it.

[Marsh.]

I don't think the Guardian understands the concept of most religions tbh.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't think the Guardian understands the concept of most religions tbh.

It mentions god not religion in the quote, people have for millenia debated the complexities and waged wars over the meaning and definitions so I'm not surprised tbh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It mentions god not religion in the quote, people have for millenia debated the complexities and waged wars over the meaning and definitions so I'm not surprised tbh

Well, lumping the entire concept of "belief" into that question is bizarre to say the least.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, lumping the entire concept of "belief" into that question is bizarre to say the least.

I don't think it is, it asks a specific question answer it or don't... what's the issue?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't think it is, it asks a specific question answer it or don't... what's the issue?

"If you're scared of saying this out loud you're a believer, if you're not, you're an atheist" Kind of simplistic really, isn't it?

[RichardG]

No the concept of there being a god has always felt a little silly to me, I've never believed or been religious.

[ChristmasNeeve]

lol I'm still not a believer, I would shout that but everyone is in bed

[Marsh.]

Niamh fearing the wrath of the Gav over the wrath of God.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Niamh fearing the wrath of the Gav over the wrath of God.

he does have to get up really early tomorrow

[Christmas Dynamo]

So belief is fear?

And i just thought it was ignorance and laziness

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So belief is fear?

And i just thought it was ignorance and laziness

I just wouldn't put that into the universe about my home and such maybe?

[Ashley.]

Science makes more sense to me sorry.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Science makes more sense to me sorry.

Most great scientists are religious, the 2 are NOT mutually exclusive. That's like saying do you believe in God or baking cakes? bizarre predictable, liberal illogical attention seeking nonsense. no offence...PS Jesus rocks!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by the truth

Most great scientists are religious

This is incorrect, it's based on a combination of obvious history and straight up myth.

The number one major myth being that Einstein was religious when he actually was not... he was broadly agnostic but more importantly - in terms of the Christian (et al.) concept of "God" and the concepts of God offered by every other major world religion, he was straight up atheist. As a scientist, he did not rule out the possibility of "a god / creator / universal force beyond our understanding" of some sort, but he did NOT believe in "God" and described the idea as being "childlike", or "wishful thinking".

Moving on to historical scientists of significance - many talked of god and feigned religion because at the times they lived, if they had shared an opinion that suggested not believing in God or following the Church... at best, they would have been discredited and cast out of academia and at worst, they would have been hounded as a heathen / satanist / witch and faced the pitchfork brigade.

Modern scientists are probably a mixed bag, as with anything else, however I'd wager than on the whole there are a higher percentage of non-religious people in scientific careers than in other careers.


I would imagine that, in general, most "great scientists" have in fact fallen into the same category as Einstein. Largely agnostic to the concept, but atheist in terms of specific / defined religious deities.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Most great scientists are religious, the 2 are NOT mutually exclusive. That's like saying do you believe in God or baking cakes? bizarre predictable, liberal illogical attention seeking nonsense. no offence...PS Jesus rocks!

They are very mutually exclusive.

[bots]

I'm not a believer, but I don't tempt fate

[JoshBB]

I'm agnostic. I don't think you can prove or disprove God and I'm not going to be forced to make a choice out of the two.

[Christmas Dynamo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I'm agnostic. I don't think you can prove or disprove God and I'm not going to be forced to make a choice out of the two.

And you feel the same about invisible 6 breasted mermaids the size of planets?

Ie cant be proved ir disproved

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And you feel the same about invisible 6 breasted mermaids the size of planets?

Ie cant be proved ir disproved

Well, I cannot say that it 100% does not exist so I won't. That doesn't mean it automatically exists though.

[Christmas Dynamo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Well, I cannot say that it 100% does not exist so I won't. That doesn't mean it automatically exists though.

So essentially your are agnostic about anything that can be invented by man. Like say Harry Potter?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So essentially your are agnostic about anything that can be invented by man. Like say Harry Potter?

Agnostic: A person who holds neither of two opposing positions on a topic:

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So essentially your are agnostic about anything that can be invented by man. Like say Harry Potter?

Harry Potter is clearly a movie and book.. you can disprove it all because we know it's acted. Not the same as bible & god (although some parts of the bible can be disproved, though most of those verses have been amended)

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And you feel the same about invisible 6 breasted mermaids the size of planets?

Ie cant be proved ir disproved

This reminded me of the flying spaghetti monster