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[The Jailing of a Woman who procured drugs to induce an abortion after the legal limit. Campaigners and MPs have strongly criticised the decision to prosecute her, the paper reports] ![]() The Judge would have let her off but she failed to plead Guilty early. She lied to get the Drugs during Lockdown. With 3 kids already Jail was wrong. Hard Judge. Debated early on GMBHD itv [A mother-of-three has been jailed for more than two years for inducing an abortion after the legal limit. Carla Foster, 44, received the medication following a remote consultation where she was not honest about how far along her pregnancy was. The "pills by post" scheme, introduced in lockdown, allows pregnancies up to 10 weeks to be terminated at home. However, Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court heard the woman was between 32-34 weeks pregnant when she took them. Abortion is legal up to 24 weeks. However, after 10 weeks the procedure is carried out in a clinic. Prosecutors argued Foster had provided false information knowing she was over the time limit and had made online searches which they said indicated "careful planning". The court heard between February and May 2020 she had searched "how to hide a pregnancy bump", "how to have an abortion without going to the doctor" and "how to lose a baby at six months".] ![]() https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-65882169 Last edited by arista; 13-06-2023 at 06:28 AM. |
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Scumbug, Maggot
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![]() Baby murder.
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But do not Jail her
those 3 kids need their mum. No help at all for her during Covid-19. Last edited by arista; 13-06-2023 at 07:18 AM. |
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All hail the Moyesiah
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I don't really get why she should avoid jail or prosecution tbh. She made a very deliberate and calculated decision via deception to kill a very advanced baby. It's a tragic story but what she did was seriously wrong and can't be allowed to happen again
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No NHS in person help during Covid-19. 3 Kids No mother. Thats a Nasty Judge |
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She took the pills on May 10 at 32-34 weeks so she'd have been 24 weeks before we went into full lockdown. There was ample time for her to access abortion services before then imo, those pills aren't supposed to be taken later than 10 weeks which would have been in January
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I'd like to know the whole story before I judge her. I'd like to know where was father of these kids?
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I agree, its basically murder at week 33
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I read he was with her in court so absent father is not an issue here
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Niamh.
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I would like to know the full story as well but 33 weeks is late to do that, it's a proper baby at that stage
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I'd still like to know more. It says in the article that a number of women and girls are facing the trauma of lengthy police investigations and up to life imprisonment. This woman would have had to deliver the baby dead or alive. It's such a dreadful story I wonder where her brain was in the decision she made.
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A baby born at 33 weeks is viable, and would have 95% survival rate.
It's literally murdering a baby.
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so she deliberately murdered her baby
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I would say her children were at serious risk if she was prepared to take that action at that late stage, so even if she escaped jail, they should be removed for their own safety
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Already being a mother to three kids, you have to be seriously mentally unstable or evil to kill your unborn child at that stage
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Tragic. Poor baby.
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Sure but she needed help all that became online only Poxy Lockdown BBC link [Her defence argued that lockdown and minimising face-to-face appointments had changed access to healthcare and so instead she had to search for information online.] Last edited by arista; 13-06-2023 at 10:54 AM. |
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So should she have killed one of her other children because nursery or schools weren't open? Would make things easier, no doubt.
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so maybe she should have killed that one then, if fewer services were open? Using the lockdown as an excuse to murder her youngest child isn't on.
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No surprise MP's criticized her prosecution.
Abortion up to birth has already been made legally permissible by our friends in New York, Canada and Australia and there's huge support in parliament for us to go down the same evil path.
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We have free contraception, morning after pill, and abortion up to 24 weeks what the hell was she doing, she researched it all as well so it wasn't a spur of the moment thing
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Court of Appeal has now reduced her sentence to 14 months
Carla now Free released from Prison https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-65581850 Ch5HDnews Reported 2 Other women are still in jail over this very old law Last edited by arista; 18-07-2023 at 04:36 PM. |
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Scumbug, Maggot
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Murder a baby, barely see the inside of prison.
Lovely.
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