[Mrluvaluva]

Ok. Forgive me if I'm wrong. I've seen different posts in different threads about the comment but I sort of wanted to do a specific thread about it. How do you regard the comment and the perception of Ali and the way it was used.? Maybe someone's intention was in a derogatory way and someone else passed it off as a joke? I'm trying to be impartial but I want to hear your thoughts...

[GoldHeart]

I actually forgot Marcello originally used the term "Red Witch" , i think Marcello's was more of a throw away comment...like 'i'm not bothered'. He'd just found out he was up for eviction, so he was a little annoyed.

Segun was full on sneaky and being serious when he had that conversation, and i really don't like how Segun has now thrown Marcello under the bus. No doubt Ali will keep bringing up the drama... and will either talk about Marcello behind his back, or she'll start an argument .

If Marcello gets nominated because of this, then it's really unfair ... and it has shown Segun up as a backstabber big time.

[Benjamin]

I did find it sly Segun tried to throw Marcello under the bus. The same way he tried to play it off to Ali he’d said it as a joke. I hope Ali does see through him. I wouldn’t say it’s offensive, but Segun defo wasn’t joking when he was saying it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I did find it sly Segun tried to throw Marcello under the bus. The same way he tried to play it off to Ali he’d said it as a joke. I hope Ali does see through him.

Segun is also trying to keep his "nice guy" persona intact , He knows people find Marcello loud and hot headed... so he is taking advantage of that, and taint poor Marcello's image . It's really wrong and cunning.

Segun is seen as a quiet nice guy, but he is actually managing to manoeuvre himself around groups.. and he seems to be attaching himself to Ali's group more now. He is having silent influence now.

[Mrluvaluva]

Do you think Marcello just spoke his mind" off the cuff"? As in he speaks what he thinks? Rather than forming an opinion as others do? Or maybe formed an opinion based on his experiences with Ali? Segun seems to me like he's all over the place trying to redeem himself. Oh I gave in with my opinion! Didn't take long.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Do you think Marcello just spoke his mind" off the cuff"? As in he speaks what he thinks? Rather than forming an opinion as others do? Or maybe formed an opinion based on his experiences with Ali? Segun seems to me like he's all over the place trying to redeem himself. Oh I gave in with my opinion! Didn't take long.

Yeah, the way he said it was a throwaway comment. Segun hooked on to it and used it with much more intent. He's trying to save himself from being nominated.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Segun is also trying to keep his "nice guy" persona intact , He knows people find Marcello loud and hot headed... so he is taking advantage of that, and taint poor Marcello's image . It's really wrong and cunning.

Segun is seen as a quiet nice guy, but he is actually managing to manoeuvre himself around groups.. and he seems to be attaching himself to Ali's group more now. He is having silent influence now.

I’m not a massive Ali fan but I’d like to think she’s smart enough to see through Segun.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, the way he said it was a throwaway comment. Segun hooked on to it and used it with much more intent. He's trying to save himself from being nominated.

Segun is part of mandem, but he doesn't seem as invested in it for me. Do you reckon he might break away and go on another route at the crossroads?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Segun is also trying to keep his "nice guy" persona intact , He knows people find Marcello loud and hot headed... so he is taking advantage of that, and taint poor Marcello's image . It's really wrong and cunning.

Segun is seen as a quiet nice guy, but he is actually managing to manoeuvre himself around groups.. and he seems to be attaching himself to Ali's group more now. He is having silent influence now.

I see that and know what you're saying.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Segun is part of mandem, but he doesn't seem as invested in it for me. Do you reckon he might break away and go on another route at the crossroads?

I think he’s already trying, but I think it’ll cost him as both sides will not trust him, so could target him. If they don’t, the public defo will.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I think he’s already trying, but I think it’ll cost him as both sides will not trust him, so could target him. If they don’t, the public defo will.

I see him as a potential target next week depending on nomination results. Hanah won't be hap.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Segun is part of mandem, but he doesn't seem as invested in it for me. Do you reckon he might break away and go on another route at the crossroads?

He's already trying to slither his way to Ali's group ,it started with the play pillow fighting with Thomas in the bedroom. And on L& L Will said Segun had spent alot of time with Ali's group, while his boys were upstairs.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I see him as a potential target next week depending on nomination results. Hanah won't be hap.

Yeah, he’s defo setting himself up to be a target. Not sure if he’ll get the numbers (depends on if Dean and Nathan target Sarah again).

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He's already trying to slither his way to Ali's group ,it started with the play pillow fighting with Thomas in the bedroom. And on L& L Will said Segun had spent alot of time with Ali's group, while his boys were upstairs.

I agree with your thoughts. It's very observant of Segun. It's like "let's distract from the whole thing and move on". Hopefully you will forget about the whole red witch/wolf thing. Not gonna happen.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, he’s defo setting himself up to be a target. Not sure if he’ll get the numbers (depends on if Dean and Nathan target Sarah again).

Dean is dying into background. Nathan in the foreground for all the wrong reasons.