[susie q]

Originally Posted by Jules82

I was referring to her video and also stating that she obviously loves herself to even do that.

Camerons video much worse ranting about feminism and womens rights not nice. At least Sian was only hurting herself. As to her parenting, none of us know what she is like at that. Her son is clearly in safe hands and Im sure that if she won the money it would be useful for helping to provide a better life for him. Helen Wood also had a child but no one questioned her parenting style.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes apparently she abandoned her child to his grandparents, no mention of the father of the child who left her to bring Archie up on her own and I have never seen that type of comment directed at any male housemate with kids....sexist much

Once again you’ve hit the nail on the head Cherie

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

just because a group of people do that doesn't mean that it makes it ok for everyone to start doing it. We know nothing about Sian's family, we know nothing about Zoe's family, and I really don't want to know. If housemates bring the topics up while they are in the house or in their VT ... then its fair game I think, but no-one can judge parenting because no-one is in a position to know.

Only a piss poor mother leaves her child for what could be 8 WEEKS for her own selfish wants

[lewys]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Only a piss poor mother leaves her child for what could be 8 WEEKS for her own selfish wants

so why don't you say the same about zoe ? or debs, lateysha, sarah or even jackson and lotan

none of them are bad parents as you could see they all cared about their children and was doing it for them, it's disgusting you would call sian a 'piss poor mother' when she has done nothing to warrant it

[bots]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Only a piss poor mother leaves her child for what could be 8 WEEKS for her own selfish wants

So anyone that leaves anyone behind while they go in the house is therefore a piss poor something or other. Why single out women? what about leaving dependents behind in general? Many have done it. You can't possibly comment when you don't know their exact circumstances.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by lewys

so why don't you say the same about zoe ? or debs, lateysha, sarah or even jackson and lotan

none of them are bad parents as you could see they all cared about their children and was doing it for them, it's disgusting you would call sian a 'piss poor mother' when she has done nothing to warrant it

they did but they don't criticise males for it...

[lewys]

Originally Posted by LukeB

they did but they don't criticise males for it...

oops it's been going on so long i haven't been keeping up, but the point still remains the same

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by lewys

oops it's been going on so long i haven't been keeping up, but the point still remains the same

It's a broken record that's used when obsessed haters can't come up with anything else

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Only a piss poor mother leaves her child for what could be 8 WEEKS for her own selfish wants

I'd understand your point chuff if you haven't supported numerous mothers and fathers over your time

For example Helen Wood among others

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It's a broken record that's used when obsessed haters can't come up with anything else

It's honestly boring and repetitive

They are not away from their child for long and they left them with someone they can trust which is another family member.. so i don't get the issue.

[poppsywoppsy]

OK, in the past, hasn't it always been that the mother who usually has the role of child care, is the nurturer, namely due to the fact she actually bears and gives birth to the baby.

Due to the changes in society, the male has become far more hands on with the children and mothers have had more chances to educate, train and work. Not always as financial restraints also play a large role as well.

Then there is the absentee parent or divorced parents leaving the single parent to bring up the child or children, mainly single handedly or on an arranged parenting plan.

We do not know Sians home arrangements for her child. It would be the best scenario if the father was around but it is conjecture. It has been written that Grandparents are involved, that's good too. I do not think that leaving her child with either of his relatives is bad parenting, as he would be well cared for and safe.

He would miss his Mummy though for this long a time though, what child wouldn't?

It's up to those to decide if they would or would agree that a stint in the BB house would be beneficial when being a parent of a young child. There isn't a lot of money involved which might help their family through hard times so what would be the motivation to enter.

Fame? Falling out of nightclubs? signing up to other reality shows? All would bring with it a certain amount of derision with it which could impact on a child at school. Would seeing Mummy cuddling up to a random bloke on TV be advisable although hopefully controls would be in place.

The men with children who enter like Dan Osborne had said they asked their partner for their agreement before entering and this is how it should be, but there were large sums available for CBB.

Thank goodness this is going to be at an end, that children will not be embroiled in this anymore. It is the length of time which is the main problem. It is not a job which has any valuable contribution like a member of the military or other employment which helps the country but a quite seedy dying on its feet TV reality show.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Only a piss poor mother leaves her child for what could be 8 WEEKS for her own selfish wants

Would you say the same about a man who happened to be in the army and got called to away for 6 months?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Would you say the same about a man who happened to be in the army and got called to away for 6 months?

They are still living like it's the olden days where the women can't work but men could so doubt it.

[Amy Jade]

On the parenting issue I can't help but remember how much chuff trashed Lateysha for crying over missing her daughter Wynter insisting she was fake and didn't even care about her and now there is a woman like Sian who is a bit more steely and she is a bad mum but for not showing as much emotion.

Helen Wood was a fab mum though!

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Would you say the same about a man who happened to be in the army and got called to away for 6 months?

The fact that he is serving his country so people like us are free to discuss our opinions and his children are well looked after with his family members is not the same as appearing on a TV reality show.

Did you really not know or notice the difference?

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by lewys

whew ha impact we love the most talked about housemate this series x

I didnt think you liked him? Was I wrong......

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by susie q

Camerons video much worse ranting about feminism and womens rights not nice. At least Sian was only hurting herself. As to her parenting, none of us know what she is like at that. Her son is clearly in safe hands and Im sure that if she won the money it would be useful for helping to provide a better life for him. Helen Wood also had a child but no one questioned her parenting style.

Now what would someone say to that, ah I know, I wasnt talking about Cameron, we were talking about Sian and the reasons why people do not like her.....

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Jules82

I didnt think you liked him? Was I wrong......

Can you not tell she was referring to our Barnsley gal. Queen of big brother most memorable housemate of the series

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by LukeB

They are still living like it's the olden days where the women can't work but men could so doubt it.

I think that was male domination but woman have become wiser since then, it is now more sharing responsiblities. Everything by mutual agreement is good imo.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Can you not tell she was referring to our Barnsley gal. Queen of big brother most memorable housemate of the series

LOL you wish....(psst worry not I can tell a lot)...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

just because a group of people do that doesn't mean that it makes it ok for everyone to start doing it. We know nothing about Sian's family, we know nothing about Zoe's family, and I really don't want to know. If housemates bring the topics up while they are in the house or in their VT ... then its fair game I think, but no-one can judge parenting because no-one is in a position to know.

Personally I don't do it...I was pointing out the hypocrisy to the said forum member.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

OK, in the past, hasn't it always been that the mother who usually has the role of child care, is the nurturer, namely due to the fact she actually bears and gives birth to the baby.

Due to the changes in society, the male has become far more hands on with the children and mothers have had more chances to educate, train and work. Not always as financial restraints also play a large role as well.

Then there is the absentee parent or divorced parents leaving the single parent to bring up the child or children, mainly single handedly or on an arranged parenting plan.

We do not know Sians home arrangements for her child. It would be the best scenario if the father was around but it is conjecture. It has been written that Grandparents are involved, that's good too. I do not think that leaving her child with either of his relatives is bad parenting, as he would be well cared for and safe.

He would miss his Mummy though for this long a time though, what child wouldn't?

It's up to those to decide if they would or would agree that a stint in the BB house would be beneficial when being a parent of a young child. There isn't a lot of money involved which might help their family through hard times so what would be the motivation to enter.

Fame? Falling out of nightclubs? signing up to other reality shows? All would bring with it a certain amount of derision with it which could impact on a child at school. Would seeing Mummy cuddling up to a random bloke on TV be advisable although hopefully controls would be in place.

The men with children who enter like Dan Osborne had said they asked their partner for their agreement before entering and this is how it should be, but there were large sums available for CBB.

Thank goodness this is going to be at an end, that children will not be embroiled in this anymore. It is the length of time which is the main problem. It is not a job which has any valuable contribution like a member of the military or other employment which helps the country but a quite seedy dying on its feet TV reality show.

Good post Poppy...well put...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It's a broken record that's used when obsessed haters can't come up with anything else

Yes there have been plenty of them this season...mainly Lewis haters. Now it's turning on your fave..you don't like it.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It's a broken record that's used when obsessed haters can't come up with anything else

So true havent we seen it so much in other posts about other HMs, mmm one in particular? I guess we all sympathise

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Only a piss poor mother leaves her child for what could be 8 WEEKS for her own selfish wants

Helen left her child for ten weeks, and then left him AGAIN the following summer! xx

and then lol Lotan