[GiRTh]

Originally posted by tom
no ur not racist atall i 100% agree. some people are fine, but the ones that wont learn the langage or try to change the rules and use the fact that they are a minority to get there way pissis me of sooooooo much

Who are those? Please be more specific.

[Chri$]

Theres this Polish Girl in my Class and Today in History she Perpously stoped me from Going past her and Then I pushed past her and then I got a 30 Min Detention with my Head of year! grrrrrrrr

I think we should be Like america and Not let Pepole come here when ever they want

They should let Pepol in that can Speek 85% of english and actualy do somthing good for the UK

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GiRTh
OK then I'll post.

The OP talks of a 'British Culture' . What is that exactly? Chicken Tikka Masalla is the most eaten dish in this, six of the top ten richest people in this country are foreign and there is a mosque or synagogue in most districts. What is this British culture that is being talked about?

You make a good point. Older people like myself will remember British culture as something different to what you describe. Today I think people are talking about British culture in the past tense-hoping it could return to an identifiable nature. You know fish and chips and ******s and peas along with church bells and the ability to walk our streets safely at night. That was our British culture which alas for one reason or another has been steadily demolished by events.


A multi racial society can work because for most there is no logical reason to dislike someone because of their race. However a multi cultral society cannot ever work as cultures can severly clash and there can be reasons for disliking cultures such as cultures that do not respect women as equalls.

Multi culturism degrades the host culture until it is eventually unrecognisable which is the position we are now at.

In my area for example I walk my dog and see about one in a hundred that is not of a different culture. Worse still I rarely here english spoken be it on the street or on the bus.

Even children coming out of school once out of school speak a language other than english as they walk home.

The host country and its language are not respeced enough by the mix of cultures we now have. They all want to retain there own culture no matter where they are in the world. Such attitudes will only end in tears and worse still civil war at some point in our history.

[SHANEHUGHES!]

Totally correct!

When people come to Britain they should dress, speak, act and live like british people do!

[bigcousin]

i agree.
not rasict atall!

[Matt10k]

Hmm… what’s British culture these days? Going out, watching football, getting p*ssed, having a curry, then fighting?! No, I don’t think they should have to ‘act British’ whatever this even means. On the whole I am fine with immigrants coming to the uk. Most of them end up taking on jobs other people don’t want anyway, it‘s only a minority that give the rest a bad name. Also, I think a degree of empathy is required with some people that need to realise what a lot of these people are leaving behind.

Also, I hate it when people pretend they can’t understand what someone is saying just because their English isn’t perfect. A lesson in how to shatter someones confidence? It’s pretty pathetic. I’d like to see how quickly they could learn another language if England suddenly went to sh*t and they had to leave.

Of course I have an issue with anyone that breaks the law (in certain areas). I think immigrants should follow British law. I also think a lot of native Brits need to follow British law! Also, on the subject of ‘native’ what does that mean? I’d bet most people on this forum have more varied European blood in their ancestry than they care to realise.

It’s so pathetic that we still live in a world where there are borders and things you can and can not do based solely around where you were born. I realise it’s not a perfect world though and am not naďve enough to think we don’t need those borders- I just hope that it won’t always be like this and that some time in the future, we will not be discriminated against solely because of where we are born and what we are born into.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Conor

Finally a non main English speaking person in the UK. You'll be part of a rare group here! Most forginers know: Yes, No, Please, Thank you and Me no understandy. Thats it and thats when they've been living here for about 3 years!

I actually think that whilst the original post isn't racist, I think you are being fairly rude towards other nationalities living in this country, saying "5000 crammed into a chicken factory" I think your generalizations are harsh and actually quite untrue.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Sod_James
I often get told Im racist because i believe that foreign people should either follow our rules or leave the country and return to their home country.

Am i racist to believe that this country should sustain a very British culture.

It sadend me last week on rememberance day to fink of all those people who gave their lives for the hope that their country could win the war and stay British, and now i look and fink, would all those men be happy the way this coutnry has turned out and how many foreign people now live in this coutnry.

I actually agree with you. People who don't actually know what British 'is' anymore are proof about how the country has changed over the past 50 years. Now I'm all for immigrants coming over, they don't bother me whatsoever, and I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem if we went to live over there. But I think if they are to respect our culture, then we ought to respect theirs so as long as they follow British laws without causing a fuss we should respect their culture within those laws.

[miracles]

I read through all the post's and i'm quite surprised.
Racism has never really occured to me as a big issue.
If you had said to me that if people don't follow our rules they should be thrown out of our country or if they don't learn our language. Then I would of said it was racist, but my opinions have changed now. After reading through the posts, i've thought, and I don't think that is racist at all.
I don't really know how to phrase this, but....
Errrmm, lets just say if we had a primeminister called Mohammed, then I'd freak out.

[Dr43%er]

Why? Would it bother you if it was an Irish, French, Dutch, German, and so on name? Mohammed may be a 3rd generation brit. So I guess you would freak as they are not white is what you are saying?

[miracles]

I said I didn't know how to phrase it.
I didn't want to use inperticular religions.
So I just used that name.

[dupin]

Originally posted by miracles
I said I didn't know how to phrase it.
I didn't want to use inperticular religions.
So I just used that name.

But a Muslim has every right to lead this country, as much as a Christian, or an Athiest. Their religion is not an indication of their ability to lead England.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Dr43%er
Why? Would it bother you if it was an Irish, French, Dutch, German, and so on name? Mohammed may be a 3rd generation brit. So I guess you would freak as they are not white is what you are saying?

French ? Yes I want to be the primeminister !

[miracles]

Originally posted by dupin

But a Muslim has every right to lead this country, as much as a Christian, or an Athiest. Their religion is not an indication of their ability to lead England.

Correction;

Not just England. All the other countries in Great Britain
United Kingdom
British Isles

Which ever one you choose to call it.
Great Britian = England, Scotland, Wales.
United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Republic of Ireland.

Mohammed isn't just a Muslim name either, so I don't know why you related to that.

British Isles = England, Scotland, Wales, Republic or Ireland, Southern Ireland.

Although I don't think the British Isles is involved because the Queen does not rule Southern IReland, only the republic.

My Geographical Skills.

[Dr43%er]

Not having no cheese eating surrender monkey leading this great nation. No offence like.

[Dr43%er]

Southern Ireland, is the republic and nothing to do with the UK. Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

[miracles]

Mohammed isn't just a Muslim name either, so I don't know why you related to that.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Dr43%er
Not having no cheese eating surrender monkey leading this great nation. No offence like.

Meh ?

[miracles]

Yes sorry Dr43%er. That's what I meant.

[Dr43%er]

It was a poor joke Remy. Don't worry about it.

[Tom]

Miracles I know what you mean. I'd rather a Brit lead the country who has lived here all of his/her life rather than a Muslim whos only been here for 6 years.

[dupin]

Originally posted by miracles

Correction;

Not just England. All the other countries in Great Britain
United Kingdom
British Isles

Which ever one you choose to call it.
Great Britian = England, Scotland, Wales.
United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Republic of Ireland.

Mohammed isn't just a Muslim name either, so I don't know why you related to that.

British Isles = England, Scotland, Wales, Republic or Ireland, Southern Ireland.

Although I don't think the British Isles is involved because the Queen does not rule Southern IReland, only the republic.

My Geographical Skills.

The geographical details of Great Britain hardly hinders my point.

Mohammed was the name of the Final Prophet sent by Allah in Muslim belief, hence it's connection with Islam.

I think what you need to realize is that being a Muslim and being a foriegner are not the same things. There is a huge amount of Muslims in this country that have lived here all their lives, and they shouldn't be thought as being less capabale of being Prime Minister than anyone else.

[usa4eva]

how did your foriegners change your culture of Drinking cups of tea with a vicar (time of your war veterans) to getting pissed every friday night? (time of now)

I read a news article weeks back, blaming foriegners for England losing the euro qualifier. lol, - 'the winging poms', lol at the aussies there for a sec

geeez you brits are way frustrated, you gotta chill out, or maybe thats whats getting you bitter, the damn cold, take a holiday guys, ... in the sun



about the foriegners trying to change the british rules... I think thats just media jibe. Iv never heard any pakistani, indian, etc call to cancel christmas, ...

... media is only trying to cause racial friction so as we wont care about what the foriegn policies are.

[Dr43%er]

"how did your foriegners change your culture of Drinking cups of tea with a vicar (time of your war veterans) to getting p****d every friday night?"

I didn't say that. I asked what was more like British culture. Drinking tea or getting lashed.

[Captain.Remy]

I had that theme today on my blank philosophy exam. Thanks everyone, you helped me a lot.