[Pigeon Lady]

...is this what people who won’t wear masks are called, then...’mouth breathers’....

[Nicky91]

the masks are for your own safety, but apparently these people don't care about safety from the virus then if they are against the masks


as for the vaccine, i am not too keen on that either, same goes for my mom also not quite sure what to do when that is ready

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the masks are for your own safety, but apparently these people don't care about safety from the virus then if they are against the masks


as for the vaccine, i am not too keen on that either, same goes for my mom also not quite sure what to do when that is ready

I thought the masks protect others from your germs ... apparently offers minimal protection to the wearer - in fact it supposedly lets you drop your guard so can be seen as detrimental.


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought the masks protect others from your germs ... apparently offers minimal protection to the wearer - in fact it supposedly lets you drop your guard so can be seen as detrimental.


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it certainly applies to any old face covering. I have medical grade face masks that might provide a bit of protection, but i wouldn't bet on it

[arista]

This Lady want's to shop for 2 hours
in John Lewis
but will not spend 2 hours in a mask.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought the masks protect others from your germs ... apparently offers minimal protection to the wearer - in fact it supposedly lets you drop your guard so can be seen as detrimental.


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still better to wear a mask for protection too

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the issue comes from the fact that early on science was telling us that masks didn't stop us catching the virus so it sent out the wrong message, but the priority at the time was to not catch the virus so it was correct. Add to this, the fact that we had a PPE shortage and the government wanted to discourage any talk of masks being important to our health.

Fast forward to now and the facts remain the same, a mask wont stop you getting the virus, but it will stop you spreading it. We are just at a different stage in the lifecycle of dealing with the virus, so the emphasis has changed. However, some less intelligent people don't understand that advice can evolve, so they stick with the original directive

That's what we are seeing happening now

So basically they lied and now they are not lying, masks are beneficial and do aid in reducing the spread by using some form of face covering as a precautionary measure.

All I see at this protest are selfish people, they themselves may be willing to risk infection but the vulnerable also need to shop in a sense this is just a civic duty for them.

It should have been implemented at the start imo.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So basically they lied and now they are not lying, masks are beneficial and do aid in reducing the spread by using some form of face covering as a precautionary measure.



All I see at this protest are selfish people, they themselves may be willing to risk infection but the vulnerable also need to shop in a sense this is just a civic duty for them.



It should have been implemented at the start imo.

There are still expert scientists and bacteriologists saying that they’re not convinced about the effectiveness of masks though ...


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

There are still expert scientists and bacteriologists saying that they’re not convinced about the effectiveness of masks though ...


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It would be strange if it's bacteriologists, as Covid has nothing to do with bacteria.

But anyway - it's not conflicting information, misinformation or lying. There hadn't been studies into whether or not masks were effective in blocking Covid spread and there were varying hypotheses on whether it would help, do nothing, or make matters worse. We're now 4 months into this pandemic, people have been doing the research, and it has been convincingly proven that wearing masks makes a significant difference in community transmission. There's not much more to it than that. The information hasn't "changed" - it just wasn't available before.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It would be strange if it's bacteriologists, as Covid has nothing to do with bacteria.

But anyway - it's not conflicting information, misinformation or lying. There hadn't been studies into whether or not masks were effective in blocking Covid spread and there were varying hypotheses on whether it would help, do nothing, or make matters worse. We're now 4 months into this pandemic, people have been doing the research, and it has been convincingly proven that wearing masks makes a significant difference in community transmission. There's not much more to it than that. The information hasn't "changed" - it just wasn't available before.

do you not think though that if masks had been in plentiful supply right from the start that the government would have recommended them then? Any protection is better than nothing. I think their initial guidance was driven by the lack of supply

[Cherie Christmas]

France are only bringing in compulsory face mask wearing from today,


People in France will be compelled to wear face-masks in closed public spaces from Monday, a measure to stem the coronavirus transmission in the country.

It was revealed by the country's Health Directorate - Direction générale de la Santé, also knows as DGS - to news agency AFP on Sunday.


Venues concerned include meeting and performance halls, cinemas, restaurants, hotels, game rooms, educational centres, holiday centres, libraries, places of worship, indoor sports venues, museums, stations and airports.

"Stores, shopping centres, administrations, banks and covered markets" have also been added to the list, the DGS said, while masks remain mandatory on public transport too.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

do you not think though that if masks had been in plentiful supply right from the start that the government would have recommended them then? Any protection is better than nothing. I think their initial guidance was driven by the lack of supply

You don't need a "proper" mask though, and supply will meet demand with home-made ones... Either people making them locally or the 10 million etsy/ebay shops that have sprung up selling them. It's good business if you have a sewing machine and are quick at it, you can make one for about 50p and sell it for Ł3. More if you're skilled enough to make "above average quality" ones/quirky stylish ones.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You don't need a "proper" mask though, and supply will meet demand with home-made ones... Either people making them locally or the 10 million etsy/ebay shops that have sprung up selling them. It's good business if you have a sewing machine and are quick at it, you can make one for about 50p and sell it for Ł3. More if you're skilled enough to make "above average quality" ones/quirky stylish ones.

Here’s mine




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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Here’s mine




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Not how I imagine you, Zizu

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It would be strange if it's bacteriologists, as Covid has nothing to do with bacteria.

But anyway - it's not conflicting information, misinformation or lying. There hadn't been studies into whether or not masks were effective in blocking Covid spread and there were varying hypotheses on whether it would help, do nothing, or make matters worse. We're now 4 months into this pandemic, people have been doing the research, and it has been convincingly proven that wearing masks makes a significant difference in community transmission. There's not much more to it than that. The information hasn't "changed" - it just wasn't available before.

It was lying...

Are you seriously trying to inform people that the effectiveness of masks has only just now been studied as to how they aid in reducing the spread of viruses spread by droplet's?

You must think everyone is thick or something :/ either that or you are hella gullible.

[Zizu]

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[Parumpapapump]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hold on, I think I just spotted Parmy at the back!

You wouldn't find me mixing with all those lefties.