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Toy Soldier · 22-10-2021, 09:04 AM

This is an increasing (and quite terrifying, especially as a dad of girls) crime, definitely something that everyone needs to be aware of and also something that venues should be taking action to combat. In recent years there's been huge increased awareness of drink spiking and people generally knowing not to leave drinks unattended, and even covers to put over drinks to stop people spiking them... so perverts have gotten creative, and have been injecting women in busy bars and clubs where people are sometimes packed tightly together.

It's been known to be on the rise in various Scottish cities, but there have been reports from all across the UK (e.g. the link below, Nottingham has had cases).

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Police Scotland is investigating claims that women on nights out were spiked using injections.

Reports had been made to police in Edinburgh, Dundee, Glasgow and Aberdeen but the force said it did not think the cases were connected.

An 18-year-old student living in Aberdeen said she believed she had been spiked with a needle last Friday.

She was unwell for days, and noticed what she thought was a needle mark on her skin.

Aberdeen University student Emma, who asked for her surname not to be used, told BBC Scotland that even though she did not drink any more than usual, she had no recollection of the night after 01:30 on Saturday morning.

Friends made sure she got home safe but throughout the next day, Emma recalled feeling dizzy with hot and cold flushes.

She said she could not move without throwing up.

Emma added that "something just felt wrong" and it was not a hangover. She also noticed a mark on her chest, which she thought looked like a puncture with bruising surrounding it.

Emma added: "I wouldn't have even thought to check if I hadn't seen posts about it by other people online."

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The teenager reported the incident to police but said she felt "dismissed" by officers.

She said she was told there was nothing officers could do because she had not had blood samples taken - and so there was no proof she had been spiked.

Emma said: "They told me to stick with my friends and be safe, [I feel] but this isn't something you can prevent from happening.

"It's not as if my drink was spiked."

NHS Grampian said anyone who suspected they had been spiked should seek medical advice;

via their GP
NHS 24
or an emergency department, *depending on the severity of the issue).
Police have investigated reports of drink spiking for years, although very few cases have been prosecuted.

Police Scotland said it was aware of posts circulating on social media about spiking incidents involving injections in Scotland.

It said officers were carrying out inquiries, and a small number of reports from the Edinburgh, Dundee, Glasgow and Aberdeen areas were being investigated.

A spokesperson added: "These do not appear to be linked. We take all reports seriously and we would encourage anyone who believes they have been a victim of spiking in any form to contact police via 101."

Drugs used in drink-spiking are often referred to as "date-rape drugs", although they are not always used for sexual assault. Officers have previously said drinks are sometimes spiked "as a prank".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58979731

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-58977839

https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/21/needl...lubs-15461751/

ChristmasNeeve · 22-10-2021, 09:07 AM

Oh I read about this the other day, it's terrifying. My daughter is 21 so really at that age as well

bots · 22-10-2021, 09:13 AM

it's crazy what some people will do cause they can't attract someone by traditional methods

Toy Soldier · 22-10-2021, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's crazy what some people will do cause they can't attract someone by traditional methods

Actually one of the scariest things about many date rape stories, especially in Universities, is that the perp is a "conventionally attractive"/confident person who has no real issues in that area. So you have to wonder if the motivation is often not entirely sexual, but the "sport of it", or perhaps both (i.e. doing it is part of what they get off on).

Tinsel balls · 22-10-2021, 09:20 AM

My daughter is 18 and we are so on edge when she is out at a nightclub etc, it's terrible when you think about it that girls in are at risk when they are out , these 'spikes' sound horrific another thing for parents to worry about .

bots · 22-10-2021, 09:22 AM

i would say it corresponds with the increase in incel's, they are a bunch of nutters that nothing is really being done about

michael21 · 22-10-2021, 09:23 AM

There only one way to stop it anyone found with the drug on them 10 years in prison

ChristmasNeeve · 22-10-2021, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Actually one of the scariest things about many date rape stories, especially in Universities, is that the perp is a "conventionally attractive"/confident person who has no real issues in that area. So you have to wonder if the motivation is often not entirely sexual, but the "sport of it", or perhaps both (i.e. doing it is part of what they get off on).

Yeah, I think with most cases of Rape it's about the power and "thrill" of doing it rather than "I can't get sex any other way"

arista · 22-10-2021, 09:32 AM

These injection
ones, have no rapes, yet.

So far

Toy Soldier · 22-10-2021, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i would say it corresponds with the increase in incel's, they are a bunch of nutters that nothing is really being done about

Reddit has, at least, started shutting down the most extreme communities but it's a bit of a "horse has already bolted" situation... they would have needed to nip it in the bud much earlier than they did. The "communities" are already big enough to self-organise elsewhere online. Deepweb circles (private forums, Discord), or probably full on darkweb for the more extreme ones.

Nana Xmas · 22-10-2021, 09:57 AM

My daughter was spiked one New Year’s Eve, thankfully the friend she was with managed to get her home in a taxi.
She was sat on the floor in the ladies unable to move.
We had a very worrying night to say the least.
The venue she was at were useless, literally helped her friend get her into the taxi and didn’t want to know about it.

Christmas Dynamo · 22-10-2021, 11:02 AM

i sent my daughter at uni info on this like 3 days ago

Christmas Spirit · 22-10-2021, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's crazy what some people will do cause they can't attract someone by traditional methods

You realise this is a power thing for them? , it's not always the 'ugly weirdo loners' who commit these crimes. Some of them could be 'goodlooking' and attracting women anyway,but that doesn't stop them from taking advantage and abusing women.

It's definitely scary though , I briefly saw them talking about it this morning on the news and I was in disbelief at the lengths creeps will go to now , it's all about sleazy control. And anyone who drugs someone is twisted in the head. And people need to be extremely cautious.

Cherie Christmas · 22-10-2021, 02:01 PM

they obviously target drunk women as well as otherwise surely you would feel it if someone stuck a needle in your

just awful to think there are people out there who think this is okay

Toy Soldier · 22-10-2021, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

they obviously target drunk women as well as otherwise surely you would feel it if someone stuck a needle in your

just awful to think there are people out there who think this is okay

Apparently according to the article some have felt it and got friends to check etc. but people don't always notice. They use a very small needle (like an insulin pen) and jab it into the thigh when everyone's packed in together, so it can just feel like someone bumping into you.