[Glenn.]

I’ll scratch that off my list of countries to visit. Oh wait, it was never on my list anyway.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I’ll scratch that off my list of countries to visit. Oh wait, it was never on my list anyway.

Nothing wrong with saying that.

[joeysteele]

Truly horrible place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Truly horrible place.

A Great Nation.
Once Part of the British Empire

But sadly for many years
a Terrible Political Power
now backed by their own strict churches.

[Uganda was ruled by the British beginning
in the late 1800s and it gained independence on
Oct. 9, 1962.

Before independence, Uganda was ruled
from London, with British governors
appointed by the Queen's government.
But after 1962,
it saw self-government based in Kampala
and by run Ugandans]

[Ray.]

Yesterday I had a colleague tell me I should visit Africa for my holidays.

I just chuckled politely and didn't say anything.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

That is not wise.


DeSantis got in power
by Protecting very young children
for seeing Graphic Gay Sex in books.

He has gay people working for him
not any problem for him.

DeSantis imo uses the "protect the children" argument a lot, and I normally tend to find that people like that are rarely genuine.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

DeSantis imo uses the "protect the children" argument a lot, and I normally tend to find that people like that are rarely genuine.

He has young children

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has young children

Its totally twisted thinking ????

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has young children

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2313584.html

He has children but happily signed a bill to allow people to carry concealed weapons.

The US is now up to 84 school shootings this year.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2313584.html

He has children but happily signed a bill to allow people to carry concealed weapons.

The US is now up to 84 school shootings this year.

Yes he has 3 lovely children and represents the democratic wishes of the people of Florida

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes he has 3 lovely children and represents the democratic wishes of the people of Florida

I mean obviously from basically everything I've posted on the subject here in the past several years, I agree that there are heavy child safeguarding issues with gender ideology being introduced to children and anything sexually overt in an age-inappropriate way (although I would very strongly argue that there's no element of sexuality in there - it applies equally to heterosexual inappropriate material - and I'm also not a Jesus thumper or a puritan, it is OK or even important for older children to understand what sex is and who does it with whom in the real world).

However.

Trying to make out that ... erm ... really anything AT ALL ... is more of a clear and present risk to kids in the USA than firearms, is just factually and statistically false.

20% of deaths of under 18 year olds caused by firearms, and overtook car accidents as the #1 cause of death in childhood in 2020.

The statistics are absolutely insane.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I mean obviously from basically everything I've posted on the subject here in the past several years, I agree that there are heavy child safeguarding issues with gender ideology being introduced to children and anything sexually overt in an age-inappropriate way (although I would very strongly argue that there's no element of sexuality in there - it applies equally to heterosexual inappropriate material - and I'm also not a Jesus thumper or a puritan, it is OK or even important for older children to understand what sex is and who does it with whom in the real world).

However.

Trying to make out that ... erm ... really anything AT ALL ... is more of a clear and present risk to kids in the USA than firearms, is just factually and statistically false.

20% of deaths of under 18 year olds caused by firearms, and overtook car accidents as the #1 cause of death in childhood in 2020.

The statistics are absolutely insane.

For some additional context (that Sheriff will be pleased to hear I've just dutifully Googled), the UK stats are:

#1 Accidental injury (including road incidents)
#2 Cancer
#3 Intentional self-harm (including suicide)
#4 Neurological disorders
#5 Cardiovascular and respiratory disorders


... ... in the USA

#1 Guns


I mean come on...

[Beso]

Ban cars in the uk

[arista]

SB

This is about the Death Penalty
if you are caught have Gay Sex.
in Uganda.


How do you feel about that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ban cars in the uk

This is about Uganda
not the UK

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ban cars in the uk

Well they are unquestionably dangerous but - unlike gunz - they are unfortunately necessary.

Really though I think the primary thing to focus on is that people aren't driving cars into children on purpose (usually). An accident is a very different stat to an intentional killing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

SB

This is about the Death Penalty
if you are caught have Gay Sex.
in Uganda.


How do you feel about that?

They have their laws and its up to them, they don't care what people in the UK think

[arista]

[Uganda was ruled by the British beginning
in the late 1800s and it gained independence on
Oct. 9, 1962.]

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They have their laws and its up to them, they don't care what people in the UK think

Very True LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"The latest anti-gay law has enjoyed broad support in the country"

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Well they are unquestionably dangerous but - unlike gunz - they are unfortunately necessary.

Really though I think the primary thing to focus on is that people aren't driving cars into children on purpose (usually). An accident is a very different stat to an intentional killing.

Beatings to death or stabbings to death would just become the main killer if we took away the guns. At least theres chance of being a quick death with a gun.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"The latest anti-gay law has enjoyed broad support in the country"

Yes, I thought it might.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Beatings to death or stabbings to death would just become the main killer if we took away the guns. At least theres chance of being a quick death with a gun.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Beatings to death or stabbings to death would just become the main killer if we took away the guns. At least theres chance of being a quick death with a gun.

They're not though, deaths from assaults of any kind don't even make the top 5 in the UK. Accidents and illness, that's it. Unless you're saying that American people are inherently more violent than people in the UK which I doubt; the available means makes a difference to the number of deaths.

I wouldn't deny that school shootings specifically have become an odd and scary cultural "phenomenon" and that, most likely, there would be a rise in other types of attacks (such as improvised explosive devices) BUT that's only because it's such an established psychological quirk of US teens now. If it had never started, it wouldn't be like this.

[Beso]

You only gave us the top 2 killers in the usa...so with the remaining 3 probably being illness. It shows the usa has a far superior medicinal cabinet than the UK.