[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

This version of Sam (Medcalf) had actually been in it off-and-on over the past 2 years, to be fair. But Westbrook and Medcalf’s versions of the characters were indefinitely abridged so Sam’s characterisation was never allowed to advance in the way that it was in her 2002-05 journey. That Sam left with Johnny Allen’s threats and basically hasn’t been back, not fully.

Yeah but remember in the Archie era when
Peggy tried to bail Sam out the prison...and Westbrook was crying with zero tears when the police caught her. It felt so amateurish.

I know Westbrook has had personal issues & health problems,but I never use to rate her much as an actress.

I always felt like Kim Metcalf was much better, and I was never a Sam fan ...but Kim acted it perfectly especially when she went crazy and dug Den's body up lmao ...that was the highlight.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Belting episode

Belting upon belting, innit, Kate. Everything just fell into place perfectly.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah but remember in the Archie era when
Peggy tried to bail Sam out the prison...and Westbrook was crying with zero tears when the police caught her. It felt so amateurish.

I know Westbrook has had personal issues & health problems,but I never use to rate her much as an actress.

I always felt like Kim Metcalf was much better, and I was never a Sam fan ...but Kim acted it perfectly especially when she went crazy and dug Den's body up lmao ...that was the highlight.

Medcalf is a much better actor than Westbrook (no shade to Westbrook personally); there is no doubt about that. 2009/early 2010 Sam (during this Archie stuff you speak of, and before that the Bianca/Ricky triangle) was utterly diabolical in particular. Ditto for circa Peggy’s funeral. She was okay when she returned later in 2010 and gave birth to Ricky.

[Redway]

Also. This was during the era that Corrie was falling further and further into silly comedy and pointless actual tangible stories that went nowhere when they did happen, so comparatively (not that comparisons always hold the most weight) EastEnders was the best soap of 2005 by all accounts. Emmerdale may have been good, but outside of clash/head-to-head episodes they never damaged EastEnders’ brand at any point in the noughties as much as they would’ve liked to. And at this point it was very-much just a farm soap with occasional plane crashes to get the masses tuning in in the absence of any actual grit. EastEnders has always been more cutting-edge in its portrayal of drama and issues, and it was on-point this year. Corrie went off the boil after May/June 2005 so you weren’t really looking at ITV to provide the comparative quality this year.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

Also. This was during the era that Corrie was falling further and further into silly comedy and pointless actual tangible stories that went nowhere when they did happen, so comparatively (not that comparisons always hold the most weight) EastEnders was the best soap of 2005 by all accounts. Emmerdale may have been good, but outside of clash/head-to-head episodes they never damaged EastEnders’ brand at any point in the noughties as much as they would’ve liked to. And at this point it was very-much just a farm soap with occasional plane crashes to get the masses tuning in in the absence of any actual grit. EastEnders has always been more cutting-edge in its portrayal of drama and issues, and it was on-point this year. Corrie went off the boil after May/June 2005 so you weren’t really looking at ITV to provide the comparative quality this year.

I think all soaps are guilty of the silly & ridiculous storylines,but I definitely prefer the classic episodes. I haven't watched a soap since 2010.

I didn't like the EE era 2007 upwards.

Yeah didn't a strange stalker character hold Norris hostage or something and then they became friends , and there was Rosie getting kidnapped aswell by
that teacher she had an affair with.

[Swan]

Ok yeah, my guilty pleasure is Classic Eastenders, and today's episodes were indeed brilliant....

Detective - "we've found a dead body"
Sharon - "but it's my wedding day"

Epic

Also Sharon fainting. Everyone was on form for this episode.

[Redway]

Sharon being annoying throughout the summer of ’05 and badgering Sam and Chrissie for information about Den’s last words and whereabouts all pays off in this episode. Just the look on her face when he’s unburied and the faint. The camp of it all. The fact that this time around she was right all-along but not in the way she was bargaining for. The fact that we’re a week away from her throwing a vodka-tonic in Peggy’s face still. Chai.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

Ok yeah, my guilty pleasure is Classic Eastenders, and today's episodes were indeed brilliant....

Detective - "we've found a dead body"
Sharon - "but it's my wedding day"

Epic

Also Sharon fainting. Everyone was on form for this episode.

Omg.

I'm not normally a Soap person, but I am considering seeing if Footballer's Wives is any good or not, the trailer that ITVX showed of it looks exactly like it's as car crash as the BIB from Sharon.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Omg.

I'm not normally a Soap person, but I am considering seeing if Footballer's Wives is any good or not, the trailer that ITVX showed of it looks exactly like it's as car crash as the BIB from Sharon.

I loved it. Definitely worth a watch.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Omg.

I'm not normally a Soap person, but I am considering seeing if Footballer's Wives is any good or not, the trailer that ITVX showed of it looks exactly like it's as car crash as the BIB from Sharon.

You should watch footballer's wives it's a bit like a sweary campy 80's drama.....( despite being made in the 00s) .There's alot of weird stuff ,but it had me laughing aswell in parts ,the dialogue and theatrics alone is
comical. I hated how they ended it though, it got axed so it ended on a silly cliffhanger.

[Redway]

Okayyy. The episode where Sam gets arrested for doing the dirty with … Dirty Den’s body got this in the overnight ratings: 10.15 million (53.4%). Standard for the time but belting share for August.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You should watch footballer's wives it's a bit like a sweary campy 80's drama.....( despite being made in the 00s) .There's alot of weird stuff ,but it had me laughing aswell in parts ,the dialogue and theatrics alone is
comical. I hated how they ended it though, it got axed so it ended on a silly cliffhanger.

When I'm in the mood, I'll take a chance on it.

After all it can't do worse than most of the Video Games that I've been playing recently.