[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We cannot begin to imagine how difficult the police job is these days.. I turn over whenever I see them being abused on the streets in every day situation so gawd knows how they cope in vicious assaults on their colleagues and friends.

I wouldn’t last the weekend if I were a cop nowadays


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…what we do know is that those assaults are answerable to the law and that any police officer is not above that law or exempt from that themselves…if/when their actions are excessive they’re equally accountable…whatever happened before and in the lead up etc…those using violence are answerable, which I believe two were arrested… but that doesn’t change that the police officer also has that same answerability for his own actions when someone was in the floor and vulnerable…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

Exactly. What he actually did was martyr the guy who was probably behaving very very badly beforehand. If that guy doesn't get punished/dealt with by the law as harshly as he should it will most likely be because of that cops actions.

[Zizu]

Andy Burnham has just said

“ this is not a clear cut incident and we need to remain calm ! “


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly. What he actually did was martyr the guy who was probably behaving very very badly beforehand. If that guy doesn't get punished/dealt with by the law as harshly as he should it will most likely be because of that cops actions.

Yeah I can see the guy getting let off now ,it will probably get brushed off him assaulting a cop due to the other cop's actions unfortunately.

[Zizu]

Interestingly in the light of Burnham’s comments TalkSport are now saying “ an officer was shown kicking a man at Manchester airport “ as opposed to “ a police officer was shown kicking and stamping on a man’s head”


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[Alf]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

Yeah, we should just forget all about what was happening leading up to this and never speak of it again.

That way, at least we personally won't be racists , and that's the main thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

Twitter Link

Obviously never seen an episode of The Sweeney

[smudgie]

Disgusting behaviour.
Absolutely no excuse for that violence.
He needs sacking pronto.

[Oliver_W]

Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.

Indeed and I dont think this would be an issue if the guy was white, there wouldn't be any protests ....what are they protesting about? if the guy was randomly kicked in the head I could understand, but attacking police at an airport, he has been suspended so what exactly do they want now, let the investigation take place and then stage your protest if you are not happy with the outcome, anyway Burnham has said he has seen the full footage and its more complex than it appears so lets just wait and see

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

No they are not….lets see what behaviour he committed in front of his family and judge him on that.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Lawyers can fek off as well


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It wouldn't happen in a UFC fight because the person would be disqualified if they did either of the things the Cop did because they're illegal moves.....because they're so dangerous

A kick to the neck/head area is applauded in UFC especially if it results in an instant knockout


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Obviously never seen an episode of The Sweeney

Jack Regan was a fabulous character


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.

Exactly plus the cop is only human


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[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No they are not….lets see what behaviour he committed in front of his family and judge him on that.

Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

The Officer was wrong to do what he did...no excuse whatsoever. But as usual we only see a clip and do not get to see the bigger picture. Funny that...!!!

The bigger picture is someone rammed their mum with a trolley, they wernt happy and started a fight with the person. The cops got involved and took the side of the person who rammed with the trolley. They found out one of them was wanted by the police and tried to arrest him, a fight then ensued with the police leading to the armed police needing to get involved because of its ferocity, that is what we then see in the video.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

A kick to the neck/head area is applauded in UFC especially if it results in an instant knockout


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A kick or stamp to the head while the opponent is on the floor and the kicker/stamper is standing is an illegal move, are you sure you're fan?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting

Slight exaggeration


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[GiRTh]

We dont know what happened prior to the incident but there are levels of escalation. I hope the officers didnt bypass a few.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A kick or stamp to the head while the opponent is on the floor and the kicker/stamper is standing is an illegal move, are you sure you're fan?

I’m not discussing laws or rules .. just that UFC is far more violent than anything in that clip yet you love UFC

The short , sharp kick and stamp were meant to hurt but not injure seriously I would say


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[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting

I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The bigger picture is someone rammed their mum with a trolley, they wernt happy and started a fight with the person. The cops got involved and took the side of the person who rammed with the trolley. They found out one of them was wanted by the police and tried to arrest him, a fight then ensued with the police leading to the armed police needing to get involved because of its ferocity, that is what we then see in the video.

Wanted by the police ??

So not an angelic member of the public then ..


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m not discussing laws or rules .. just that UFC is far more violent than anything in that clip yet you love UFC

The short , sharp kick and stamp were meant to hurt but not injure seriously I would say


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They're illegal moves because they're too dangerous is my point. I would have thought most people would know that