[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…

Absolutely not, but that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable, or justifiable to stamp on the head of somebody, laying prone and not resisting, so whatever happened before, is entirely irrelevant to this officers gross assault

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…

Guess he was a tough guy when attacking women

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Guess he was a tough guy when attacking women

…but this point is being ignored and sidelined which is my point.

It’s appalling what the officer did…but what the offender did was equally appalling.

[Liam-]

The offender didn’t take an oath to protect and serve, cops that use their power to assault unarmed, prone civilians should absolutely be held to a higher standard

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course it is but he's the criminal, that's why he's being arrested. Comparing the actions of the actual criminal with Police is putting them on equal footing, which they are not and absolutely should not be.

I agree.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The offender didn’t take an oath to protect and serve, cops that use their power to assault unarmed, prone civilians should absolutely be held to a higher standard

I think you will find by the comments we all agree on that….but you can’t ignore what is apparent that inappropriate offences happened before that by the ‘victim’.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think you will find by the comments we all agree on that….but you can’t ignore what is apparent that inappropriate offences happened before that by the ‘victim’.

And sadly more & more police officers will continue to get spat on & attacked who are just doing their job.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Just check on Twitter X , TikTok or whatever

Thats exactly what is being spread around


To your last point I don’t think either one was life threatening .. just painful

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I don't trust TikTok on anything.

Besides Jessica Meuse's Music, and Farage saying KRO! The rest of them think that they're Vampires, or fake having Cancer.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interestingly in the light of Burnham’s comments TalkSport are now saying “ an officer was shown kicking a man at Manchester airport “ as opposed to “ a police officer was shown kicking and stamping on a man’s head”


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Why is TalkSport talking about a crime in Manchester?

The clue is kind of in the Station's name on what they should be discussing.

[bots]

The people that were arrested were all from Rochdale, so it doesn't take a wild guess know what their agenda was.

That doesn't excuse the use of excessive force, a law that every person in the uk is subject to no matter what job they are in

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

I wouldn't say completely irrelevant because context matters in most crimes.

For example if a Wife killed her Husband because he was physically abusing her, I don't believe that the law should be judging her by the same standard as a cold blooded killer that finds killing fun.

Ultimately he does have to be punished (because obviously we can't have Police Officers losing control) but the context here is possibly explaining away why he did what he did, and if found to be true it also makes him a more sympathetic figure than the Officer that killed Sarah Everard for example.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m not discussing laws or rules .. just that UFC is far more violent than anything in that clip yet you love UFC

The short , sharp kick and stamp were meant to hurt but not injure seriously I would say


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Tbf there's a huge difference between two people consenting to a fight in a Sport, to a Police Officer stamping on a suspect's head.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is it really inexcusable? It's certainly a bit of an overreaction, but when a man hospitalises three women and tries to take firearms from officers of the law, instinct can take over.

Yes, they have to act with such restraint so often when set upon by thugs (Leeds recently is just another example) that I’m not surprised when one or other of them lose their rag now and then. The furore over this shows how rarely it occurs, yet when it does all hell breaks loose.
Each and every one of the many adhering to higher standards at all times because they are police regardless of severe provocation/danger just isn’t possible with human beings. That provocation/danger should be taken into account.

[thesheriff443]

It takes a very special person to act with out emotion and those people are serial killers

[arista]

The Police Officer
before the male officer kicked the head


Andy Burnham Mayor
has watched the full video

[arista]

Before she was attacked
by the thugs

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The people that were arrested were all from Rochdale, so it doesn't take a wild guess know what their agenda was.

That doesn't excuse the use of excessive force, a law that every person in the uk is subject to no matter what job they are in

…bots, the voice of reason…to go down the same path of the violence that the law and society abhors was never the way…I think we all accept that a police officer ‘lost it’ and is equally as answerable as else who ‘lost it’, which will obviously be determined internally now…it’s an incident that may have impacted public confidence in the police force at a time when that confidence isn’t at its greatest time…

[Cherie]

The fallout continues after the chaos caught on camera that saw violence, injuries and arrests stuns Manchester and sparks protests

What is clear about the incident at Manchester Airport that has led to large protests is it was a sprawling and noisy affair that shocked onlooking passengers and reduced parts of Terminal 2 to chaos.

Several videos have emerged showing the police as they deal with what they describe as an altercation between members of the public.

While much of what happened remains unclear, the problem appears to have started on a flight from Pakistan that landed in Manchester on Tuesday evening.

Words were spoken between a middle-aged woman of Asian descent and another passenger, the woman’s family told The Telegraph.

Once on the ground, it is believed that the woman was collecting her luggage in the arrivals hall when the same passenger, a man, began jostling her with his trolley and making racist remarks.

Shortly after, the woman met her two grown-up sons, Mohammed Fahir Amaz and Mohammed Amahd.

She pointed out the man to them, telling her sons what had occurred, at which point one of the men confronted him and an altercation ensued.

Police officers became aware of the altercation at or around 8.25 pm and began tracking the family through the airport using cameras.

As they were making their way into the car park and were near the ticket machines, it is claimed officers accosted the family.

From here, the situation appeared to deteriorate rapidly.

According to family sources, the mother was allegedly struck in the face by an officer, at which point a serious confrontation began.

So far, no video evidence has emerged publicly of this initial encounter with Greater Manchester Police (GMP).

This is the stage at which, according to the force, a female officer suffered a broken nose, one of three officers to have needed hospital treatment following the encounter, having been “punched to the ground”.

In its first public statement, GMP highlighted the added tension arising from the fact that the officers involved were carrying guns.

“As the attending officers were firearms officers, there was a clear risk during this assault of their firearms being taken from them,” a spokesman said.

A source reported the men as having said: “We were not there to attack anybody. It was just happening. Our mum was just hit in the face and we were being treated unfairly.”

Speaking on BBC Radio Manchester on Thursday morning, Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Greater Manchester, said the full footage of the incident showed a “fast-moving and complicated” situation with “issues for both sides”.

It is then that video footage starts to emerge of what happened next.

The video which originally sparked the anti-police outrage and other footage portray a scene of utter carnage.


The Telegraph

[Oliver_W]

Some of the speeches at the protest were a bit disturbing - why was the guy giving legal advice to protesters? Sounds like he was hoping expecting things to escalate.
Why were they yelling ALLAHU ACKBAR in response to people getting arrested at an airport?
Why were they saying "don't riot because you might get arrested and we need you" instead of "don't riot because it's a horrible and stupid thing to do" ?

[Glenn.]

Totally unacceptable. I’m glad he’s lost his job.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Some of the speeches at the protest were a bit disturbing - why was the guy giving legal advice to protesters? Sounds like he was hoping expecting things to escalate.
Why were they yelling ALLAHU ACKBAR in response to people getting arrested at an airport?
Why were they saying "don't riot because you might get arrested and we need you" instead of "don't riot because it's a horrible and stupid thing to do" ?

I didnt see it but I hope the police officers injured before the filming sue them for assault

[Mystic Mock]

It all started from the racist guy.

I wonder if he got caught in the brawling, or did he flee once the Police arrived?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't trust TikTok on anything.

Besides Jessica Meuse's Music, and Farage saying KRO! The rest of them think that they're Vampires, or fake having Cancer.

TikTok is fabulous when used properly… you like music and football off the top of my head so you could tailor it to just show hundreds of clips of football, goals current or at any time from the past , football tricks the options are endless

Also clips of singers / groups performing covers or original songs , busking, expert musicians showing how to play every instrument or musical gadgets, how to write music/songs etc


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Why is TalkSport talking about a crime in Manchester?

The clue is kind of in the Station's name on what they should be discussing.

They have news slots every 30 minutes


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[Zizu]

So the family are claiming it escalated when a police officer hit the poor old mother in the face ..

Bollox


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