[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i actually think that the reasons for rioting were much simpler than are being presented.

Social media groups know what makes people angry, they spoon feed people "news" that stokes that anger and then points them in the direction of public disorder.

People think that they have access to all this wealth of news on X, but the reality is they are being played and manipulated all the way and none of them seem to understand this

Totally strong and valid points there too bots.
Well said.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

Link?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

I agree with this; attacks on all minorities are up at the moment. Although police categorisation isn't really helping. I remember signs saying "free Palestine" were considered attacks, as was graffiti saying the same thing, so we need a proper consolidation of what we categorise as attacks, and then we need proper statistics.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ys-rishi-sunak

[Nicky91]

the likes of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir especially the latter are also the ones responsible for doing damage to the general image of jewish people

Ben-Gvir his ''jewish fascism'' views



and i agree with Slim, there are attacks against all minorities with these riots by the far right, how they're also spreading lies about the 17 yr old who was convicted for the stabbing spree, whom was NOT a refugee, but born in the UK

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people are always a hair breadth from going on the streets. There will always be some reason for discontent and that is amplified these days by social media.

Riots are something we are going to have to get used to. It will be rinse and repeat from now on.

Our neighbour who travels a lot was saying that its more or less like this all the time on and off … same in many other European countries

Guess we aren’t the only ones with thousands of illegal Immigrants piling in relentlessly


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the likes of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir especially the latter are also the ones responsible for doing damage to the general image of jewish people

Ben-Gvir his ''jewish fascism'' views



and i agree with Slim, there are attacks against all minorities with these riots by the far right, how they're also spreading lies about the 17 yr old who was convicted for the stabbing spree, whom was NOT a refugee, but born in the UK

Jews in this country are not Israelis. Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? It cuts both ways. But yes, of course you agree with slim. Well, today you do. Tomorrow, who knows?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Just asking.
Why weren't you saying all this over the last 10 years plus?
Puzzling???

No need to answer I'm just curious.

We didn't have all these people swarming the streets with weapons before.
I've been here since 1994 and I've never seen anything like this.
And I remember when the ira was bombing London

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems

Why on earth do politicians get 3 or 4 months summer breaks anyway !

Highly paid , doddle of a job yet manage to get all that time off when its good weather !

Cheeky bar stewards !

If they are gonna have all that time off make them work through summer and let them have winter off.


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why on earth do politicians get 3 or 4 months summer breaks anyway !

Highly paid , doddle of a job yet manage to get all that time off when its good weather !

If they are gonna have all that time off make them work through summer and let them have winter off.


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Parliament is in recess but a lot of MPs will be working in their constituencies. They don't all take the whole recess off.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

Jews in this country are not Israelis. Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? It cuts both ways. But yes, of course you agree with slim. Well, today you do. Tomorrow, who knows?

Nicky flip flops, we all know that, but do you dispute that Ben Gvir is a fascist?

What are your thoughts on the Israeli protests to allow rape of prisoners based on Talmudic law? And the storming of the prison to free those charged with raping prisoners?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Nicky flip flops, we all know that, but do you dispute that Ben Gvir is a fascist?

What are your thoughts on the Israeli protests to allow rape of prisoners based on Talmudic law? And the storming of the prison to free those charged with raping prisoners?

Ask a Jew to comment on Israel.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

There were alot of others standing back
So it was not one issue alone
this is what you miss, sadly


Was debated on GMBHD itv with 3 Ex MP's
Early this morning,

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Parliament is in recess but a lot of MPs will be working in their constituencies. They don't all take the whole recess off.

But why go into recess ?

The workday goes on regardless- they should get 4 weeks paid leave like the rest of us


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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ask a Jew to comment on Israel.

You responded to Nicky about it, so why would it be off the table for me to ask you a question? Would you like to address the questions I asked or not? It just seems that you want to hold Nicky to account, then cry AS because I asked you some questions back. You dismissed Nicky out of hand for no reason. Is it because he's Dutch?

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/182147...ES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We didn't have all these people swarming the streets with weapons before.
I've been here since 1994 and I've never seen anything like this.
And I remember when the ira was bombing London

.... but it's only the last 4 weeks you feel the need to get so public about it.

Interesting.

Fair enough

I think you'll find that's gone on for a good while.
I recall a soldier bless him getting attacked by people with weapons.
13 years ago.!!!
There's been rising crime of knife crime and carrying knives over the last 10 years plus and even long before.

It's not ALL just asylum seekers and immigrants carrying knives and committing violence.
It's just odd how in the last 4/5 weeks some have decided to support those against immigration, plus will justify even in the thinnest veiled way, these criminal rioters.
Allowing immigrants to be blamed for it ALL.

Then to even try to blame the sitting PM, government and police even by wrongly saying they commit differing policing policy.
Just again now in these last 45 weeks .

Yet you even quote as far back to the IRA too.
So it's gone on for a lot longer than the last 4/5 ekks or the 10 years + I indicated.
Carrying weapons has gone on for many decades really not just the last one.
Certainly NOT just in the last 4/5 weeks, that's a fact.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/182147...ES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?

No the Left Wingers Protect him

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

No the Left Wingers Protect him

They're calling for beheadings. Disgusting.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

No the Left Wingers Protect him

Originally Posted by joeysteele

.... but it's only the last 4 weeks you feel the need to get so public about it.

Interesting.

Fair enough

I think you'll find that's gone on for a good while.
I recall a soldier bless him getting attacked by people with weapons.
13 years ago.!!!
There's been rising crime of knife crime and carrying knives over the last 10 years plus and even long before.

It's not ALL just asylum seekers and immigrants carrying knives and committing violence.
It's just odd how in the last 4/5 weeks some have decided to support those against immigration, plus will justify even in the thinnest veiled way, these criminal rioters.
Allowing immigrants to be blamed for it ALL.

Then to even try to blame the sitting PM, government and police even by wrongly saying they commit differing policing policy.
Just again now in these last 45 weeks .

Yet you even quote as far back to the IRA too.
So it's gone on for a lot longer than the last 4/5 ekks or the 10 years + I indicated.
Carrying weapons has gone on for many decades really not just the last one.
Certainly NOT just in the last 4/5 weeks, that's a fact.

Well I didn't think it would get this bad.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

No the Left Wingers Protect him

He will rightfully be getting a knock on the door from the police. Lozza declared war on Starmer a few days ago, so everyone needs to calm down a bit.

[joeysteele]

The only thing that sticks in my throat on these brainless criminals getting into prison.
Is that now despite their unnecessary violence filled rioting
It's the taxpayer who now has to pay for their time in prisons.

I'd be getting anything and everything out their bank accounts as some kind of other justice if I had my way.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/182147...ES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?

you do know ur sharing a link from ubermoron Laurence Fox


surprises me that he isn't currently leading the pack of far right thug protesters since he still has the time to post this propaganda on his X account

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He will rightfully be getting a knock on the door from the police. Lozza declared war on Starmer a few days ago, so everyone needs to calm down a bit.

Him and everyone who supports this needs to be locked up.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Well I didn't think it would get this bad.

I'll leave you with that thought.

Only in the last 4/5; weeks.????
I'll have to try to find a thought process of my own to see the fairness of that.
I doubt I will find it however.

[arista]

Labour Councillor Suspended

Ricky Jones
said he wants the throats cut
of all the far-right men



Ref: GBnewsHD

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-su...all-the-throa/


Vanessa posted the video