[arista]

[The debate will be 90 minutes
with two commercial breaks.

The two seated moderators will be
the only people asking questions.
A coin flip was held virtually on Tuesday, Sept. 3,
to determine podium placement and order
of closing statements;
former President Donald Trump won
the coin toss and chose to select the
order of statements.
The former president will offer the
last closing statement, and Vice President Harris
selected the right podium position
on screen (stage left).
Candidates will be introduced by the moderators.
The candidates enter upon introduction
from opposite sides of the stage;
the incumbent party will be
introduced first.]


From ABCnews USA Site

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harr...y?id=113387977

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Fake News

All the women are lining up to vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man instead of that brazen hussy

All the Christians are voting Trump as that brazen hussy supports the murder of unborn children and Trump managed to get that obscenity Roe V Wade consigned to the dustbin of history.

But then the UNDemocratic party will just come along and cheat in order to steal the election like they did in 2020

Are there not things to pick up bot responses on here

[Maru]

Heatwave has finally broke here. I am ready for some festive debating.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Maru

Heatwave has finally broke here. I am ready for some festive debating.

Yes Good ABCnewsHD
is sharing the live debate with
all news.


I will watch it Live 2AM UK time
as if Harris slips up
all can change

Of Course, if she does well,
she will take power in November.



Strange Harris
is scared of doing more debates?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Good ABCnewsHD
is sharing the live debate with
all news.


I will watch it Live 2AM UK time
as if Harris slips up
all can change

Of Course, if she does well,
she will take power in November.



Strange Harris
is scared of doing more debates?

She could faint on stage and the MSM will still tell you that she did fantastic.

But the reality is that the last time a Democrat nominee debated Trump. They were fired a week later.

He didn't just destroy them in debate. He even scuppered their assassination attempt on him with his great head movement.

[Alf]

[Maru]

Power move would be revealing her actual platform at the debate. I don't know what else she'd talk about to be honest other than "unity".

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

They were saying
2024 Pennsylvania

Harrys 47.2
Trump 47.2

Pennsylvania has a voting system that
is a mess.

On the CNN HD USA Smerconish show.



Also
[Multiple outlets will televise and stream it.
But unlike in past years, when presidential debates
were organized by a bipartisan commission,
this is solely an ABC News production.
It won’t include a live audience.]

I'll give you a bit of reality.

I know what you're getting at though. They're putting in the propaganda for you for the steal. But Trump is destroying her.

Advertisement in the middle of this video, so skip through if you don't want to watch. Or if you do, then watch. The Advertisement is about Bitcoin. But my point of the video is not the advertisment. Just the same as your point on the mainstream media news isn't the advertisments.

Elton John speaking well of Trump in the second half of this video.

Youtube video

[arista]

Ch4HD is showing the Harris/Trump debate Live
tomorrow from 1:30AM

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Ch4HD is showing the Harris/Trump debate Live
tomorrow from 1:30AM

They wouldn't have shown it live if was 7pm. But they know that most British people will be hard-on a kip at that time.

[Maru]

All I can add is that, compared to 2016 and even 2020, the vibe has really changed and people are much more willing and comfortable to express support for Trump. And not doing so in a hyper-hysterical way, but rather talking about it from a personal POV of how certain things effect them. It's more regular people now asking questions and learning to dissect politics for themselves instead of depending on others (a net good). The internet has lengthened our political memory, and also, people have picked up a new habit of doing their own research thanks to things like politics, vaccines and social media censorship (of all kinds). So that's one major difference... we may not all come to the conclusions based on "research", but to be fair, look at the types of media and propaganda we have to sift through... Americans have been poked, prodded and bombarded with propaganda for several decades. And we still have to pay taxes on that ****ery.

Anyway, the uneasiness seems to all but be disappearing. I'm actually surprised, but I think it makes sense when considering the last 6-8 years of what politics has done to our social lives. There may still be some unfortunates out there who have to maintain uneasy connections and narcissistic relationships with the kind of person who is willing to throw them under the bus for politics. But we hear less and less about those "break ups" and I think because a lot of that has already happened.

Consider the number of folk that very publicly and gleefully snipped those relations over the past few years. Even if someone were a person who were non-confrontational, they likely saw the behavior of someone similar in their circles and learned to distance. How many distanced themselves from those kinds of relations and it impacted their worldview? I'd think a lot, because on average people most just want to mind their own business and be left alone. Much money is spent on the inside of our homes to keep things that way. (That's uniquely American, imo). So I think such toxic people only damage themselves, imo. Whether it was over politics or COVID, most of us have now had interactions with that type of person. But it also seems now, apparently, that more others have found a way to gain renewed confidence in discussing their politics more openly and so I've noticed political discussions (on average) have become more civil, rather than just pandering. Maybe because more centrists too coming out and finding each other. Whether it's discussing the candidates, but policies and how that's translated to what they see in reality. It's just nice. I don't see how that development could ever be "bad". I've never been a fan of being "told what to do".

Re: Trump; Whether that translates to a "win"... Well, my feeling is I don't think that translates to he's now suddenly "more popular". I don't trust the polls. I think it's more that people have gotten off the fence and are less scared to share an opinion, especially right now, when it is at the forefront of our minds and actually matters. Probably post-election, it'll go back to being quieter, but I think people having said their piece will translate to a healthier country moving forward. Other people seeing this, maybe that influences or tempers the polls some. Who knows, who cares. Regardless, it's less the major supporters now having the discussions, but more "normal" individuals who have decided to self-educate and saying "I think this way and here's why..."... So because I see that, I think the country is slowly filling in the blanks as to how they can disagree more amicably (and productively).

The other thing I've noticed, especially post-COVID, is that people are becoming more and more concerned about quality of the education system, not even just college now... but our public schools now are having major problems and schools are either closing or having to shorten weeks (4 day school weeks).. so hearing someone is a "Harvard grad" isn't as confidence-boosting these days.

I'll say for myself, compared to 2020, especially before Parler was wrecked, the rhetoric around Trump just seemed so much more anti-social. There were too many internet personalities trying to get famous off fanning the flames, so to speak. I am not surprised Jan 6th happened with the way those discussions were developing close to the elections. But other than that, I'm just speaking from a normal perspective of what I'm encountering, online and offline, that people like that are becoming a minority in the national discussion. And I think it's because people have wised up to algorithms and have finally tired of pointless bandwagons. Bandwagons have not translated to lower taxes, better living conditions and a more unified society... it has translated to deeper pockets for the parties and more money flowing through politics in general. So imo, until that money dries up, that part of politics isn't really over yet.

[arista]

He needs to let Harris talk more
as it Live
she can make her own mess.

On that last CNN with her Fat helper
it was not Live

[arista]

Live Tonight 2AM

SkyNewsHD
Ch4HD
BBCnewsHD
GBnewsHD
CNN HD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow!

New footage from 1995 ABC shows Kamala Harris at around age 30 partying with then
Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown. Someone asks her if she's his daughter. She looks
annoyed and quickly replies "no."


Brown was 60 and Kamala was 29 when the pair first started dating.


https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1833570484082119034

[Maru]

She has aged really well

[bots]

There is bound to be some drama tonight, which is what everyone is waiting for

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

Live Tonight 2AM

SkyNewsHD
Ch4HD
BBCnewsHD
GBnewsHD
CNN HD

Halloween and Christmas decorations are coming out in shops. We are ready for both the creepy and the festive. If hub gets off on time maybe we will get some food for the debate. It will be on at 8pm here. Glad we don't live on the East Coast anymore.. sitting through it until 10:30 doesn't sound that appealing, much less 3:30am... get some sleep instead Politics will always be there... waiting...

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

There is bound to be some drama tonight, which is what everyone is waiting for

The Halloween costumes will be awesome this year. I own a 24" cutting machine. Maybe I should make a creepy Presidential yard sign.

[Maru]

No point in bumping Trump's thread for this but this might be a preview for tonight...

Youtube video

Related:

Speaker Johnson plowing ahead with funding plan despite GOP opposition
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...op-opposition/

[Maru]

There was a poll earlier that I'd learned about where people were asked if they needed to know more about Kamala Harris... it was like 70%ish no...

About 1:00 in...

Youtube video

That's a big number.

[Alf]

Tomorrow Biden is "doing 9/11" not my words, his.

Sounds like It's a bit of a chore for him.

[Alf]

Thank Almighty God for sending us Donald Trump to save us from these Satanist, lunatics.

[Alf]

I'm not at work until 1.30pm tomorrow. Which means I can stay up to watch. But I've been up since quater past six this morning, so I don't think I'll make it. But I am trying.

[Maru]

Was looking to get local pizza, but their phone lines are tied up, no doubt with other people who have the same idea (or their lines are out...)... I like their spicy pizza combo because it clears the sinuses... but yeah... we're getting God's chicken instead (Chic fil' a)

*

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm not at work until 1.30pm tomorrow. Which means I can stay up to watch. But I've been up since quater past six this morning, so I don't think I'll make it. But I am trying.

Sleep is valuable, but I can see why you would be excited.

[Alf]

Here's how the debate will go.

Harris will stick to a rehersed script that she's been learning.

Trump will just ad-lib and play it by ear.