[Gusto Brunt]

This new Labour government has been an utter shambles.

Starmer is a horrible soulless person who doesn't deserve to run a bath never mind the country.

Well done, Rosie. Let's hope more Labour politicians show guts and step down or at least speak out.

[bots]

What you will see is labour doubling down on it all, it's the way modern politics is going these days. My way or the highway. We are kidding ourselves if we think any of the other parties are any different

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She felt so strongly against taking away wfp’s from those that don’t need it, she… abstained from the vote, she’s waiting for the perfect opportunity to stick the knife into Starmer

who can blame her, he didnt assist when she was being threatened by men who use any opportunity to harrass women

[joeysteele]

She's pathetic and frankly has been so from becoming an MP in 2017.

Awful as to the threats she's has had and it has been really extremely bad against her too those threats.

However she stood to the voters, used the Labour human bodies machinery of workers to get herself re- elected
Knowing who the leader was and who the Cabinet would be

Her views now are no different to how she's been since Starmer became leader
She's using the winter fuel issue on this yet no attack on Reeves whose policy that really is
The Chancellor is the decider of budget policies.

So she has no moral ground on hypocrisy being so herself.
She in light of all that presented herself as a Labour candidate.

Immaterial of Parties, I've moaned at MPs leaving all Parties.
If I had my way, her and MPs in any Party who leave the Party they were elected for.
I'd either make it they MUST fight a by election as an Independent.
Or remain an MP with a reduction in wages and only travelling expenses given.

She was unpleasant to party workers helping her in the Canterbury seat during the election.
Unappreciative and frankly I think she has intended to do this anyhow.
Deceiving the Party, those activists working their backsides off for her and the voters too.

She's right about hypocrisy re Starmer and others however she's quite the expert it seems on hypocrisy herself.
Frankly why she EVER stood again in the election under Starmer's leadership is totally mystifying.

Will she resign and stand as an Independent.
No of course not, she's had the Party machine get her elected again, she's comfortable for up to 5 years on full MPs salary.
Plus she can now attend parliament and vote as and how she likes
Certainly knows how to feather her own nest too then.
By using others.
Hypocrisy, oh yeah, she should know about that definitely being a pretty big hypocrite herself.

I

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

who can blame her, he didnt assist when she was being threatened by men who use any opportunity to harrass women

Yes Many Labour Male MP's
bullied her.

They even went onto the Conservative seats
telling her to cross over

It was on Politics Live BBC2HD , back then



One of those Bully male MPs lost his seat
(Lloyd Russell-Moyle)

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

She's pathetic and frankly has been so from becoming an MP in 2017.

Awful as to the threats she's has had and it has been really extremely bad against her too those threats.

However she stood to the voters, used the Labour human bodies machinery of workers to get herself re- elected
Knowing who the leader was and who the Cabinet would be

Her views now are no different to how she's been since Starmer became leader
She's using the winter fuel issue on this yet no attack on Reeves whose policy that really is
The Chancellor is the decider of budget policies.

So she has no moral ground on hypocrisy being so herself.
She in light of all that presented herself as a Labour candidate.

Immaterial of Parties, I've moaned at MPs leaving all Parties.
If I had my way, her and MPs in any Party who leave the Party they were elected for.
I'd either make it they MUST fight a by election as an Independent.
Or remain an MP with a reduction in wages and only travelling expenses given.

She was unpleasant to party workers helping her in the Canterbury seat during the election.
Unappreciative and frankly I think she has intended to do this anyhow.
Deceiving the Party, those activists working their backsides off for her and the voters too.

She's right about hypocrisy re Starmer and others however she's quite the expert it seems on hypocrisy herself.
Frankly why she EVER stood again in the election under Starmer's leadership is totally mystifying.

Will she resign and stand as an Independent.
No of course not, she's had the Party machine get her elected again, she's comfortable for up to 5 years on full MPs salary.
Plus she can now attend parliament and vote as and how she likes
Certainly knows how to feather her own nest too then.
By using others.
Hypocrisy, oh yeah, she should know about that definitely being a pretty big hypocrite herself.

I

That is certainly a way of looking at it as well Joey, though if Starmer had not backed the two child cap and winter fuel and taken all the freebies do you think she would still be a Labour MP? Its difficult to know if this was the last straw or it is outlined as you say above.... Reeves could not implement any of these policies without Starmer okaying it so he is responsible as PM I think anyway

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That is certainly a way of looking at it as well Joey, though if Starmer had not backed the two child cap and winter fuel and taken all the freebies do you think she would still be a Labour MP? Its difficult to know if this was the last straw or it is outlined as you say above.... Reeves could not implement any of these policies without Starmer okaying it so he is responsible as PM I think anyway

No I do not believe she ever intended to remain a Labour MP.

I helped in many constituencies during the election.
Exhausted myself too.
In hers, she was the most unpleasant, most unappreciative candidate I personally encountered.

I think she was always going to get at Starmer.
With good reason over her previous years as an MP.
However why stand again under a leader you detest.
She did.

She knew she wouldn't have won that seat without party workers helping her and the Labour machine behind her too.
No I think the winter fuel issue is something she's USING as a cover to what she ALWAYS has intent to do, IF and when with the Party's work for her, she was elected again.

The majority of Labour even Unions are against the winter fuel cut,
I myself and the majority are furious with Starmer too on the freebies.
There's nothing wrong or illegal about them.
However it is hypocritical have accepted them when criticising others
My goodness I cannot bear Starmer but you work for change from within.
That's what I and others will keep trying to achieve.

Only 3 months in, to resign now from the Party isn't a quick decision by her in my view
She has I really think planned this for after the election once parliament was back.
Whether they'd done the winter fuel issue or not.
No, I don't think she intended to remain a Labour MP under Starmer.

The 2 child benefit cap, Labour said all through the election campaign they were NOT going to end that.
She canvassed on that in her seat.
It's just another excuse to vent her spleen against Starmer now
Not a real principle of hers I would say myself.

She really does attract negativity and has all her time as an MP.
I think I can possibly now see why.

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No I do not believe she ever intended to remain a Labour MP.

I helped in many constituencies during the election.
Exhausted myself too.
In hers, she was the most unpleasant, most unappreciative candidate I personally encountered.

I think she was always going to get at Starmer.
With good reason over her previous years as an MP.
However why stand again under a leader you detest.
She did.

She knew she wouldn't have won that seat without party workers helping her and the Labour machine behind her too.
No I think the winter fuel issue is something she's USING as a cover to what she ALWAYS has intent to do, IF and when with the Party's work for her, she was elected again.

The majority of Labour even Unions are against the winter fuel cut,
I myself and the majority are furious with Starmer too on the freebies.
There's nothing wrong or illegal about them.
However it is hypocritical have accepted them when criticising others
My goodness I cannot bear Starmer but you work for change from within.
That's what I and others will keep trying to achieve.

Only 3 months in, to resign now from the Party isn't a quick decision by her in my view
She has I really think planned this for after the election once parliament was back.
Whether they'd done the winter fuel issue or not.
No, I don't think she intended to remain a Labour MP under Starmer.

The 2 child benefit cap, Labour said all through the election campaign they were NOT going to end that.
She canvassed on that in her seat.
It's just another excuse to vent her spleen against Starmer now
Not a real principle of hers I would say myself.

She really does attract negativity and has all her time as an MP.
I think I can possibly now see why.

Good point Joey and food for thought for sure

[CheapLousyFaggit]

Originally Posted by arista

Debbie

[arista]

Many Locals want a By Election


Ref: LBC

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Many Locals want a By Election


Ref: LBC

They should be granted it too.

Most there will know how she is, no way though would she have won without the Labour ticket.
She should be made to fight it as an Independent definitely.

IF she's so sure she is right and that the constituents of that seat think she's right too.
Or is the MP salary the only real thing important to her.

[UserSince2005]

she seems like a little trouble causer, but then what labourite isnt? all as bad as each other.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They should be granted it too.

Most there will know how she is, no way though would she have won without the Labour ticket.
She should be made to fight it as an Independent definitely.

IF she's so sure she is right and that the constituents of that seat think she's right too.
Or is the MP salary the only real thing important to her.

I'm no fan of Duffield. She has been pandered to way too much for way too long, and lied about the previous leader, but having more ire reserved for her than the actual policies seems a little off to me. Do you think she raises good points, or are you ok with holding your nose because we got the tories out...to be replaced with more tories?

Is mealy mouthed opposition to heinous policies, good enough for anyone claiming to have a moral compass within the party?

[Christmas Dynamo]

In her letter of resignation, Rosie Duffield, the newly independent MP for Canterbury, claimed that many on the Labour benches share her disgust with Sir Keir Starmer. Some, however, appear to be rather more disgusted with her. Take this haughty denunciation from the 28-year-old MP for Nottingham East, Nadia Whittome.

“Rosie Duffield,” she tweeted, after news of the resignation had broken, “has made a political career out of dehumanising one of the most marginalised groups in society.”

Ms Whittome was referring to people who identify as transgender. In reality, though, Ms Duffield has never “dehumanised” them – all she’s done is to defend women’s rights to female-only hospital wards and changing rooms. Among the many people who kindly tried to help Ms Whittome grasp this simple point was JK Rowling, who told her: “Rosie Duffield was one of the few female Labour politicians with the guts to stand up for vulnerable women and girls, while self-satisfied numbskulls like you fought to give away their rights and spaces.”

What particularly interests me about Ms Whittome’s rebuke of her ex-colleague, however, is her use of the word “marginalised”. Is this really an accurate description, in an age when the LGBTQIA+ flag is ostentatiously flown by every major corporation (in their Western markets, anyway)? Can Ms Whittome name any celebrities who have been cancelled for promoting

gender ideology? Does she know of any women who have been fired from their jobs for tweeting, “Trans women are women”?

Frankly, if anybody has been marginalised, it’s Rosie Duffield. For the past five years in the Commons, she has been given the full Mean Girls treatment: ostracised by the cool kids for having views they deem frightfully unfashionable, while others stayed silent out of a cowardly fear that they too would be ostracised for defending her. And what made this ostracism all the more pathetic was that the overgrown adolescents behind it were her own so-called colleagues.

The Labour party would be much better off with more Duffields, and fewer Whittomes. Plainly, however, its leader can’t see this. Despite his fabulously expensive spectacles, Sir Keir remains hopelessly myopic.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ssment-labour/

[arista]

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