[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

lol dean saying Lily isn’t fake. She’s the most fake

Dean saying she’s smarter than we think….meaning she’s fooled you all and that makes her fake.
Dean is thick as…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I hope he means I can't do that in general rather than just because he's in the house. They were fine a few minutes later.

Unrelated, but just catching up and, in a head to head vote, it's getting to the point where I might vote to evict Lily over Ali.

Yeah same

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

To me it comes across as a dominating move, I really dislike it, even in a "messing around way"

…that exactly, not aggressive but very dominant …a throat is an odd place/not natural place to place a hand like that in a holding stance…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that exactly, not aggressive but very dominant …a throat is an odd place/not natural place to place a hand like that in a holding stance…

It sounds a bit melodramatic here but I think it's because most men xould probably kill a woman by strangling her with his bare hands, in a way a woman couldn't the other way round. That's why it feels kind of sinister to me even in a joking around way

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Preaching to the choir here, Marchello is very iffy with how he interacts with women

…I think the iffy was very apparent in how he spoke to Sarah after chicken gate as well when he was obviously still angry …the way he ‘dismissed her’…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I think the iffy was very apparent in how he spoke to Sarah after chicken gate as well when he was obviously still angry …the way he ‘dismissed her’…

Yeah, again that kind of domineering/humiliating side

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It sounds a bit melodramatic here but I think it's because most men xould probably kill a woman by strangling her with his bare hands, in a way a woman couldn't the other way round. That's why it feels kind of sinister to me even in a joking around way

…yeah, I don’t know if I’m over thinking but it was also how he held her wrist as well…only for a second but still, it was all a bit uneasy…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, I don’t know if I’m over thinking but it was also how he held her wrist as well…only for a second but still, it was all a bit uneasy…

Mmm it just left me thinking what would he be like with no cameras

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Mmm it just left me thinking what would he be like with no cameras

…even though there was no danger, I can’t imagine any parent of a daughter watching that and not feeling very uncomfortable with his hand motions there…

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Dean saying she’s smarter than we think….meaning she’s fooled you all and that makes her fake.
Dean is thick as…

Dean still hasn't woken up and smelled the cofee

The coffe?

The coufee

Oh ****ing hell not again...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Dean still hasn't woken up and smelled the cofee

The coffe?

The coufee

Oh ****ing hell not again...

…..

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He took his hand away the minute he put it on her neck and said "I can't do that" worrying that's the only reason he stopped though

I had to watch it several times he literally lay his hand on her neck ...I thought the way it was made out he was throttling her

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I had to watch it several times he literally lay his hand on her neck ...I thought the way it was made out he was throttling her

Yes I know, he took it away and I said I can't do that, like he remembered he was on TV

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Nathan giving Lily all the rope in the world lol

He knows what he's doing

Yes, I agree that this is exactly what he’s doing, as well as using the opportunity to absorb who is aligned with who, so that he can plan his next strategic move.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I know, he took it away and I said I can't do that, like he remembered he was on TV

Nathan nutting BP with the egg was alot worse

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nathan nutting BP with the egg was alot worse

I disagree

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Yes, I agree that this is exactly what he’s doing, as well as using the opportunity to absorb who is aligned with who, so that he can plan his next strategic move.

He & Dean are very similar in that way... they're both floating around the hubbub while taking a lot of copious mental notes because the people around them can't help themselves and are literal chatter boxes of tasty informations...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree

that must have hurt because he did it from a height

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

I’ve yet to see any confirmation of it actually happening, only people saying it happened. At least there’s actual video of Marcello grabbing Lilys neck.

The video isn’t as bad as the wording implies. He doesn’t grab her neck but places his beside it - grabbing implies pressure and force, yet there is none. There were also no signs of anger between them when it happened. I think this has been blown up out of proportion to fit the ongoing narrative about Marcello’s treatment of women.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Garfie

The video isn’t as bad as the wording implies. He doesn’t grab her neck but places his beside it - grabbing implies pressure and force, yet there is none. There were also no signs of anger between them when it happened. I think this has been blown up out of proportion to fit the ongoing narrative about Marcello’s treatment of women.

Exactly they were both smiling, I thought Nathan egging BP was far worse as that would have hurt, not sure if you saw it on L and L Garfie

[FromBB8]

Marcello is the most Jekyl and Hyde housemate for me. He has moments where I think he has a kind heart and thoughtful about others. Then there are moments where his interactions put me on edge and a lack of filter - especially when interacting with women - stands out in a bad way.

[rusticgal]

Well I’m not going to lie but there are times I would like to put my hand round her throat too…

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

BB would have removed him if it was serious

Exactly! People need to look at the footage and decide for themselves whether a man has ‘grabbed’ a woman round the neck in this incident. That sort of wording is inflammatory and sensationalising like something typical of a front page headline from the tabloid press!

Without it being the intention, that sort of language about this incident, both trivialises, and is insulting to, all women who have been subject to neck/throat grabbing or non-fatal strangulation by men they know. Suggestions of this kind should never be thrown around so thoughtlessly and lightly.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well I’m not going to lie but there are times I would like to put my hand round her throat too…

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Garfie

The video isn’t as bad as the wording implies. He doesn’t grab her neck but places his beside it - grabbing implies pressure and force, yet there is none. There were also no signs of anger between them when it happened. I think this has been blown up out of proportion to fit the ongoing narrative about Marcello’s treatment of women.

His hand literally touched her neck and then he removed it because he realised he’s on camera. It’s actually so tiring having to argue with people about the way he behaves especially considering how often most of you blow what Ali says out of of proportion while defending this literally creep.