[Ammi]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I think it was the forum it was delivered in, and possibly because she said nothing along those lines to him before (going by his shocked face afterwards). The advise as possibly reasonably, but the words chosen weren't. Maybe I'm an over-sensitive person too, but if a friend said that to me it would hurt. Especially if I missed the jokey tone.

…I guess it’s just one of those things that it’s hard to entirely relate to ‘real life’ or life outside the house in terms of friendships etc and how those friendships communicate …the BB house must be a weird fish situation in that the friendships in there only exist because of the ‘game’ and the game sometimes requires tasks which have elements of things that may inject negativity …and the task not always allowing or giving to choose the most sensitive and kindest wording, you know…

[Crimson Dynamo]

WHAT A BABY

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Maru

Oh it would still hurt. But I think it could help him overall if he listens to her advice... so it's coming from an OK enough place.

It's better than the other question "Who would you chuck out the backdoor if you had the chance?"

He may want to listen to the advice but that's why he wants space to process it - and not have Sarah convinced him as a joke or whatever. Will have to see how it pans out tonight. The heart may have been in the right place but the words weren't.

On the backdoor question, is it any wonder the housemates break so many rules? I presume this one was BB led so it's fine to expose nomination intentions when it suits the producers. It was like one during the task a couple of weeks ago, when Khaled and Marcello were asked which two housemates they'd miss the least.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

He may want to listen to the advice but that's why he wants space to process it - and not have Sarah convinced him as a joke or whatever. Will have to see how it pans out tonight. The heart may have been in the right place but the words weren't.

Sarah wasn’t aware it was her that upset him though until he asked for space, which she seems to have then given him. I think she’s then assumed he’s really upset at her which in turn has upset her.

[thesheriff443]

He won’t come out on top if he tries the same routine he did with Ali

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Yes, I'm willing to accept that Sarah thought Khaled would take it with a pinch of salt and was surprised when he didn't. But I'm willing to accept that Khaled had a valid reason not to take it with a pinch of salt either, so it's almost six of one, half-a-dozen of another. Perhaps it can be explained as a massive misunderstanding between how it was given and how it was received. For me, the ivory tower/peasants line was the issue - as I said, particularly as, according to Sarah, Khaled's always been there for her when she's upset, so he must come down from it sometimes.

…hopefully we’ll see later, a the wider context but atm it does feel a bit to me like a revolving circle in that Sarah didn’t seem to realise that anything she’d done or said had upset Khaled so he was obviously a bit, wow and taken aback and then she was also wow and take aback…and with that kind of situation and lack of understanding, there really is no other course but to talk it through…which Khaled was obviously not willing to do in the moment…whatever the circumstances leading up to, it had the effect of a close down which just leaves it hanging there as a negative vibe…

[Crimson Dynamo]

He was in a cream puff

Id imagine he was a spoiled child..

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…hopefully we’ll see later, a the wider context but atm it does feel a bit to me like a revolving circle in that Sarah didn’t seem to realise that anything she’d done or said had upset Khaled so he was obviously a bit, wow and taken aback and then she was also wow and take aback…and with that kind of situation and lack of understanding, there really is no other course but to talk it through…which Khaled was obviously not willing to do in the moment…whatever the circumstances leading up to, it had the effect of a close down which just leaves it hanging there as a negative vibe…

Yes, that's true. Like Khaled seemed under the impression that Sarah should have realised, to him, she overstepped the mark but Sarah, in turn, couldn't see how so was baffled. I wonder if his 'not deep' might be 'I know I'm taking this more seriously than perhaps I should but give me space to get over it then I'll be fine'. But unless he communicates that it will fester.

[Liam-]

He really doesn’t like women not fawning over him does he?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Yes, that's true. Like Khaled seemed under the impression that Sarah should have realised, to him, she overstepped the mark but Sarah, in turn, couldn't see how so was baffled. I wonder if his 'not deep' might be 'I know I'm taking this more seriously than perhaps I should but give me space to get over it then I'll be fine'. But unless he communicates that it will fester.

He's not the harshest of critics himself, and ironically that made him not friends with some ... so he may recoil at criticism easily enough it's not real pleasant for him to be the deliverer of bad news either since he hates that feeling. So he prefers a more 1-on-1 way of doing things to having it blasted it out across the house... I think it's reasonable he wants space if he feels rattled. No reason to make a big deal out of it... but we'll see how that actually looks tonight

[moon_peach]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Not sure why Khaled was so offended and pissy by what Sarah said. I love Khaled but it was clearly a joke, and also not offensive in the slightest.

I understand it. Whilst it was a joke, the implication here is that he thinks he’s superior to everyone else as a result of his good looks, which I’ve not seen any evidence of.

It’s also not happening in a vacuum - the housemates have been constantly making little digs at him and I imagine this is just the final straw. The fact that it’s coming from Sarah probably means it hurts more, since they seem quite close. He looked taken aback like ‘I didn’t know you thought of me that way’.

Also the ‘in your ivory tower’ comment feels in very poor taste to say to a refugee whose homeland is undergoing a genocide. I know that might sound like I’m reading into it too much, but they all treat Khaled like he’s immensely privileged, which ignores the quite significant ways in which he’s not. Combine that with Nathan’s comment about how often he speaks about Palestine/Lebanon, and I think this could be another reason the comment rubbed him the wrong way. I get the impression he probably feels misunderstood by a lot of his housemates.

Sarah obviously didn’t mean it seriously, but I can see why it upset him.

[moon_peach]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Yes, I can see that. I do go back to the live feed conversation he has, I think it was Emma, a couple of weeks back where he explained he used to fly off the handle and react without thinking, and how he went through a lot of behavioural management, of which boxing played a part, so I imagine this could be part of it - controlling himself rather than saying something he would regret. I don't know how many others in the house have heard that from him. Nothing has been shown on the HLs.

Yeah he said that he likes to take the time to process his emotions before acting, because he doesn’t want to be too emotionally reactive and knows that he’ll feel differently given time. I think a lot of us are like that, no? It’s pretty normal to say ‘actually I need some space before talking this through’, and if anything I think it shows more maturity to be able to acknowledge and express that, as opposed to a) going along with what others want when you’re not comfortable, and b) flying off the handle because you’re in a too emotional place to have a respectful conversation with the other person

(He also said in that convo that he is a sensitive person)

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by moon_peach

I understand it. Whilst it was a joke, the implication here is that he thinks he’s superior to everyone else as a result of his good looks, which I’ve not seen any evidence of.

It’s also not happening in a vacuum - the housemates have been constantly making little digs at him and I imagine this is just the final straw. The fact that it’s coming from Sarah probably means it hurts more, since they seem quite close. He looked taken aback like ‘I didn’t know you thought of me that way’.

Also the ‘in your ivory tower’ comment feels in very poor taste to say to a refugee whose homeland is undergoing a genocide. I know that might sound like I’m reading into it too much, but they all treat Khaled like he’s immensely privileged, which ignores the quite significant ways in which he’s not. Combine that with Nathan’s comment about how often he speaks about Palestine/Lebanon, and I think this could be another reason the comment rubbed him the wrong way. I get the impression he probably feels misunderstood by a lot of his housemates.

Sarah obviously didn’t mean it seriously, but I can see why it upset him.

I wish I had kept quiet and just waited for you to post this! Though we only have the sneak peak and press preview which lacks a degree of context. If Sarah approached others like she approached Khaled - particularly those she is close to - it could be said he is taking it more personally than he should. Certainly I do think there's a difference, in the clip, from what she said about Emma to what she said about Khaled.

[GoldHeart]

I haven't read it,what did she say about Khaled?.

I think it really affected Khaled when he was pre judged early in the weeks. Maybe he feels a bit defensive.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I haven't read it,what did she say about Khaled?.

I think it really affected Khaled when he was pre judged early in the weeks. Maybe he feels a bit defensive.

"Khaled, I think if you spent less time looking in the mirror and more time looking inward, who knows what it could be. You obviously know you’re very good looking but every now and again you come down from your ivory tower and spend some time with us peasants down here like myself you might learn a thing or two.”

It was part of a task when housemates had to say how other housemates could become 'roses'.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

"Khaled, I think if you spent less time looking in the mirror and more time looking inward, who knows what it could be. You obviously know you’re very good looking but every now and again you come down from your ivory tower and spend some time with us peasants down here like myself you might learn a thing or two.”

It was part of a task when housemates had to say how other housemates could become 'roses'.

I guess he took it personally ,due to what's happened previously with Ali . I think he's a worryier.

[Beso]

Kahled doesn't like women making fun of him.

[Conzors]

Nobody can remember what Sarah said to Khaled hahaha

[GlitterUK]

Low blow from Sarah but I don't think she is malicious, others seem to revel more in her comments towards Khaled as they see him as a threat.

He is someone who is calm and forgiving and he is one of the people who can accept Sarah's apology and not hold any grudges so I think they will be ok.

[Benjamin]

Youtube video

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Conzors

Nobody can remember what Sarah said to Khaled hahaha

I think Ali will remember, her reaction said it all .

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Conzors

Nobody can remember what Sarah said to Khaled hahaha

I think it says more about Khaled's standing with those who Sarah approached, rather than the relative severity of what she said.

Not sure if the former Heads of House dealt with getting into the basement well. If anything they seemed to be drawing attention to themselves.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I think it says more about Khaled's standing with those who Sarah approached, rather than the relative severity of what she said.

Not sure if the former Heads of House dealt with getting into the basement well. If anything they seemed to be drawing attention to themselves.

Yeah it was the most unsubtle attempt ever hahaha

[Crimson Dynamo]

The amount of special attention given to dullard Ali by BB this series is crazy

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

The amount of special attention given to dullard Ali by BB this series is crazy

Well when there's not much else going on, CD... (LT?)...