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Old 23-11-2024, 12:15 PM #51
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I just don't believe Ali would have picked up fans from Daze, Martha, Dean... Martha and Dean particularly were disliked even by Ali fans. I think the assumption you like Dean, Martha and Daze because you liked Ali is incorrect, personally. Even now, in post-show polls, Ali stormed ahead in the Favourite, whereas you'd like fans of Martha, Daze and Dean would vote for them, rather than Ali. I just think her fanbase is huge organically.
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Simply because her haters in here were completely blinkered and biased against her


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I just don't believe Ali would have picked up fans from Daze, Martha, Dean... Martha and Dean particularly were disliked even by Ali fans. I think the assumption you like Dean, Martha and Daze because you liked Ali is incorrect, personally. Even now, in post-show polls, Ali stormed ahead in the Favourite, whereas you'd like fans of Martha, Daze and Dean would vote for them, rather than Ali. I just think her fanbase is huge organically.
Oh i wasn’t discrediting Ali having a huge fan base. I was just using one fan from each as an example. Couple that with Ali and Lily having huge fan bases and the vote to win be open and closed so much, it all led to Ali winning by a landslide.
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I just don't believe Ali would have picked up fans from Daze, Martha, Dean... Martha and Dean particularly were disliked even by Ali fans. I think the assumption you like Dean, Martha and Daze because you liked Ali is incorrect, personally. Even now, in post-show polls, Ali stormed ahead in the Favourite, whereas you'd like fans of Martha, Daze and Dean would vote for them, rather than Ali. I just think her fanbase is huge organically.
She only started topping betting odds once all 4 of her friends had been evicted
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I didn’t start the discussion with you it was with Benjamin not some old man with an obsession with women he gets infatuated with
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She only started topping betting odds once all 4 of her friends had been evicted
She topped the betting polls because she survived yet another eviction, that's all. Every time someone survives an eviction their odds dramatically increase.
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She topped the betting polls because she survived yet another eviction, that's all. Every time someone survives an eviction their odds dramatically increase.
Say that to Nathan.
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Say that to Nathan.
Nathan, whose odds - after surviving his first eviction in Week 1 - dramatically improved? The Nathan who, by Week 2 had become the favourite to win? The Nathan whose odds dropped when he was put up for eviction again in Week 3 but then once he survived shortened so he became the 2nd favourite to win....

That Nathan?

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Nathan, whose odds - after surviving his first eviction in Week 1 - dramatically improved? The Nathan who, by Week 2 had become the favourite to win? The Nathan whose odds dropped when he was put up for eviction again in Week 3 but then once he survived shortened so he became the 2nd favourite to win....

That Nathan?
Nathan finished in 5th place,he was never going to win . Plus he was in the bottom 4 with Sarah, Segun & Tom ....if you remember in the vault.
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Nathan finished in 5th place,he was never going to win . Plus he was in the bottom 4 with Sarah, Segun & Tom ....if you remember in the vault.
Yes that’s all true but isn’t connected to what we were talking about.

We were talking about how odds improve after surviving evictions which is what happened with Nathan just like it did with Ali.
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Yes that’s all true but isn’t connected to what we were talking about.

We were talking about how odds improve after surviving evictions which is what happened with Nathan just like it did with Ali.
I don't think his odds improved that much , if Marcello's HOH Save & replace turned out differently...and if Marcello put Nathan up instead of Rosie,I think there would have been a big chance of Nathan getting evicted that night in the double . Let's be honest the boos Rosie got,were for Nathan mostly.
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I didn’t start the discussion with you it was with Benjamin not some old man with an obsession with women he gets infatuated with

That’s just cruel , bullying/abuse - plain and simple.

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Nathan, whose odds - after surviving his first eviction in Week 1 - dramatically improved? The Nathan who, by Week 2 had become the favourite to win? The Nathan whose odds dropped when he was put up for eviction again in Week 3 but then once he survived shortened so he became the 2nd favourite to win....

That Nathan?

When you say shortened and all that, what you really mean is tweaked a little from 9/1 into 8s.

You're talking poop..he was never 2nd favourite, ever
. Lucky if he was 6th favourite at one time.
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When you say shortened and all that, what you really mean is tweaked a little from 9/1 into 8s.

You're talking poop..he was never 2nd favourite, ever
. Lucky if he was 6th favourite at one time.
Yeah just looking at the stats of the voting % released , just shows he never had a chance of winning . Same goes for Sarah ,Segun & Tom.
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When you say shortened and all that, what you really mean is tweaked a little from 9/1 into 8s.

You're talking poop..he was never 2nd favourite, ever
. Lucky if he was 6th favourite at one time.
He was actually fave at one point.

The relationship with BP took both them down from this point though.

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Odds to win after 2nd eviction and Nathan has overtaken to be the fave!

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Nathan - 11/4
Baked Potato 3/1
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Emma - 11/1
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The relationship with BP took both them down from this point though.
Thank you for confirming.
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Anytime.

Was an odd season as Izaaz, Lily, Ali, Marcello, BP, Emma, Nathan and Khaled were all the fave to win at some point. Not seen it before where 8 housemates all were at the top at one point in the odds (usually it’s 2 or 3, occasionally 4).
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What ever sh1t you got going on in your life is not down to me
What ever sh1t you got going on the forum is 50 percent down to me!

The other 50 percent is down to YOU!
You want to have your constant dig at members but screams when you get some back

I don’t bully people the same way I won’t be labeled a bully

If someone counted up all posts regarding Ali during this series by you ,it would be a ridiculous amount
You cannot accept any opinion that doesn’t support your own.

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Another Ali trait was playing the victim
What ever sh1t you got going on in your life is not down to me
What ever sh1t you got going on the forum is 50 percent down to me!

The other 50 percent is down to YOU!
You want to have your constant dig at members but screams when you get some back

I don’t bully people the same way I won’t be labeled a bully

If someone counted up all posts regarding Ali during this series by you ,it would be a ridiculous amount
You cannot accept any opinion that doesn’t support your own.

99.9% of all my posts about Ali were reactive in that each post was in response to a usually unfair or unjust criticism of her .. I was NOT routinely posting glowing compliments about her … one person posted over a hundred ridiculously negative posts about Ali in one day yet I get criticised for responding to them


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He was actually fave at one point.

The relationship with BP took both them down from this point though.
For a day maybe.....when he still had socks.


But you cant say he got stronger and stronger, when he got weaker and weaker as the days went by, in regards to his betting odds.
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For a day maybe.....when he still had socks.


But you cant say he got stronger and stronger, when he got weaker and weaker as the days went by, in regards to his betting odds.
Oh he defo peaked at week 2. After that he slowly kept dropping down, as did BP. They were their own undoing unfortunately.
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