[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Itv have been clipping up much worse and putting out on YouTube for likes for years

Agreed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Being cancelled is a msm bollocks term it means nothing, has no substance and has no basis in fact

It's a tabloid rage headline only

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Being cancelled is a msm bollocks term it means nothing, has no substance and has no basis in fact

It's a tabloid rage headline only

Agreed

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You didn't watch it did you? People did come forward and he was spoken to a number of times but still carried on.

You keep asking why didn't people come forward at the time. They did come forward but were ignored.

Well that is down to management....they are the ones who should be losing their jobs ....his persona was encouraged....look at the bum out on
GM clip....laugh laugh titter titter......he was known for it and every TV show he was on was full of innuendo and sauce, Gordon, Fred and Gino, Family fortunes, Celebrity Juice, Good Morning, you cant have it both ways I am afraid...he was a golden goose and now he is surplus to requirements, he was more than likely highly paid, but they have up and comings now in Joel Dommett who will likely be everywhere just like Stephen Mulhern..... there is no loyalty in TV to any employees just ask Eamonn Holmes

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well that is down to management....they are the ones who should be losing their jobs ....his persona was encouraged....look at the bum out on
GM clip....laugh laugh titter titter......he was known for it and every TV show he was on was full of innuendo and sauce, Gordon, Fred and Gino, Family fortunes, Celebrity Juice, Good Morning, you cant have it both ways I am afraid...he was a golden goose and now he is surplus to requirements, he was more than likely highly paid, but they have up and comings now in Joel Dommett who will likely be everywhere just like Stephen Mulhern..... there is no loyalty in TV to any employees just ask Eamonn Holmes

This !

Plus i don't know why some reporter is crying over what Gino said about Holly, I guess it was ok for Leigh Francis to be as vulgar & crass as he wanted on celebrity juice... as the audience squealed laughing & wetting themselves with joy at all the cringe .

I don't care if he was doing a character = ' Keith lemon ', surely he was sexually harassing aswell then ?. Funny how Holly probably didn't mind...I wonder if it's because her husband was a producer on juice . Plus she took a peek at Danny Dyer's private bits in bs name of ' medical science ' . Like I said hypocrites the lot of them .

Joel Dommett & Stephen mulhern should watch their backs , as ITV will drop them like a bag of trash when they find other faces
to replace them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh my what is this..
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUpmQHE/

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Oh my what is this..
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUpmQHE/

It says ' page unavailable '

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'll take what Kim says with a massive dose of salt , this is the same woman who got touchy feely with Dr Christian and strandled him without his consent!!!, it was all supposed to be a ' laugh ' ...but it was cringe and uncomfortable to see.

The bloke is gay ,so not sure if she thought that was a green pass ? ... or whether she was just being her usual panto theatric self .

So she can't really take the moral high ground then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUprrJo/

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdUprrJo/

Can't watch it without having the tiktok app, no thank you

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So she can't really take the moral high ground then.

Like I said ...bunch of hypocrites the lot of them.

Holly agreed to peek at Danny Dyer's private bits in the name of bs " medical science" .....on celebrity juice. That show was full of nudity & smutty humour.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lorraine should be investigated at this rate, she is always slobbering over wee men and I saw a pic recently of her peeking up Ben Shepherd kilt....

The Loose Women panel get away with a lot of borderline perverted behaviour too.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

A woman has come forward claiming that her 2018 complaints about Gino
were ignored by ITV and no investigation was launched.

Gino, who regularly worked with Holly on This Morning and Celebrity Juice, is
said to have told the woman that he was often asked which of Holly and her
TV sidekick and close friend Fearne Cotton he would most like to sleep with.

According to The Sun Gino told the woman: 'If I could put the face of one on
the body of the other then maybe, but I'd probably choose Holly because I'd
have more fun with her.'

The unidentified woman has told the newspaper that she was 'disgusted' by the
comments, calling Gino 'crude and vile' and 'a vulgar cretin' and that she warned ITV about him in 2018.

She claims she wrote an email to ITV chief executive Carolyn McCall, in which
she stated: 'He is certainly not a man reflecting integrity or honesty or family
values.'

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so she was offended on someone else's behalf and she felt it was ok to make a personal insult to him
she seems to be under the impression that being offended = being right?

And presumably she reported every episode of Celebrity Juice to Offcom?

It's not the kind of language that I personally would use, but I don't think it is so bad that it warrants the woman complaining about it to ITV.

People need to remember that actions speak louder than words under most circumstances.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

I could be wrong, but i don't think his behaviour is in the same ball park as the masterchef guy and he seems to have walked away from that unscathed (except for having his contract terminated)

I agree.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well that is down to management....they are the ones who should be losing their jobs ....his persona was encouraged....look at the bum out on
GM clip....laugh laugh titter titter......he was known for it and every TV show he was on was full of innuendo and sauce, Gordon, Fred and Gino, Family fortunes, Celebrity Juice, Good Morning, you cant have it both ways I am afraid...he was a golden goose and now he is surplus to requirements, he was more than likely highly paid, but they have up and comings now in Joel Dommett who will likely be everywhere just like Stephen Mulhern..... there is no loyalty in TV to any employees just ask Eamonn Holmes

Totally agree. The managers should be losing their jobs too. I also think you're right in that Gino became too expensive and the complaints were a good way to get rid of him

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

This !

Plus i don't know why some reporter is crying over what Gino said about Holly, I guess it was ok for Leigh Francis to be as vulgar & crass as he wanted on celebrity juice... as the audience squealed laughing & wetting themselves with joy at all the cringe .

I don't care if he was doing a character = ' Keith lemon ', surely he was sexually harassing aswell then ?. Funny how Holly probably didn't mind...I wonder if it's because her husband was a producer on juice . Plus she took a peek at Danny Dyer's private bits in bs name of ' medical science ' . Like I said hypocrites the lot of them .

Joel Dommett & Stephen mulhern should watch their backs , as ITV will drop them like a bag of trash when they find other faces
to replace them.

Agree wit this too. Celebrity Juice is a show that will age badly - as they said on the podcast - Its gonna be the Its aint half hot mum or Mind your language of this generation and soon its wont be available on any platform. It was of a time that is different to today.,

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Surely any hot blooded male would just keep Holly's head with Holly's body...ferne shouldnt even be in the same sentence.

With all due respect to Fearne, but I agree with you.

I would take Fearne's personality over Holly's lack of one though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Like I said ...bunch of hypocrites the lot of them.

Holly agreed to peek at Danny Dyer's private bits in the name of bs " medical science" .....on celebrity juice. That show was full of nudity & smutty humour.

Tbf, is it really sexual harassment when it comes from Holly Willoughby.

But being serious I can see where you're coming from, especially with the Keith Lemon persona.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Agree wit this too. Celebrity Juice is a show that will age badly - as they said on the podcast - Its gonna be the Its aint half hot mum or Mind your language of this generation and soon its wont be available on any platform. It was of a time that is different to today.,

So it will be apart of a censorship era that's sadly not going away?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So it will be part of a censorship era that's sadly not going away?

I agree with this but I wouldnt call it censorship.

I think it's two things. Sensibilities have changed and the way we consume media has changed.

Things that were acceptable 15 years ago are rightly not acceptable now and the two shows I mentioned, I think its right they are no longer shown on terrestrial TV. Full of stereotypes and one has some quite dodgy politics

Things like, The Sky Sports Socceretes, Take Me Out, and lads mags like Nuts and Zoo were of their time but not appropriate anymore. I wouldn't call it censorship because they don't conform to newfound sensibilities

All these shows are available if we want to watch them and can find them. Due to the way we now consume media we'll be able to watch say, Celebrity Juice but not a broadcast of repeats on ITV2. I've got no problem with that

[Ammi]

…this sacking or cancellation or whatever it’s labelled feels a bit more layered in that it’s not about any kind of ‘change of image’ that Gino D’Acampo might not fit with anymore …we see that a lot as well, don’t we…that a personality is replaced because it’s felt that they no longer fit with whatever that network is aiming to project….but this is very specific in that it’s a very serious allegation about his character as a person, not Gino as a celebrity …so far as I can see and there lies the difference, I would say…and that’s something that will surely impact how possible future employers would see him in deciding if he’s the right personality for their programmes and viewers etc….i don’t even know him that well in terms of watching him but what I don’t understand with this is things like the wording that ITV are giving…like ‘following on from etc/etc allegations …’…but it isn’t following on from because these are allegations going back, some over a decade…?…so there has apparently been this huge period of doing nothing and apparently allowing a behaviour to continue before any ‘following on from’ I becomes a thing….and if no action was deemed to be the ‘correct action’ for all of those years, why a complete overturn and instant sacking now…?…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I agree with this but I wouldnt call it censorship.

I think it's two things. Sensibilities have changed and the way we consume media has changed.

Things that were acceptable 15 years ago are rightly not acceptable now and the two shows I mentioned, I think its right they are no longer shown on terrestrial TV. Full of stereotypes and one has some quite dodgy politics

Things like, The Sky Sports Socceretes, Take Me Out, and lads mags like Nuts and Zoo were of their time but not appropriate anymore. I wouldn't call it censorship because they don't conform to newfound sensibilities

All these shows are available if we want to watch them and can find them. Due to the way we now consume media we'll be able to watch say, Celebrity Juice but not a broadcast of repeats on ITV2. I've got no problem with that

I'll never support channels banning Shows because of "newfound sensibilities" as that is the very definition of censorship.

I mean imo that does come across as trying to dictate to adults what they should and shouldn't be sensitive about, which is not on imo.

These Channels should be letting people decide for themselves if (to use the two Shows that you've mentioned) It Ain't Half Hot Mum and Mind Your Language are crossing the line for them, as we are meant to be in a democratic country, not a nanny state that tries to dictate what is and isn't okay for people to consume for their personal entertainment.

Tbh I don't really agree about the lads mags either, but I don't really care too much about it to defend it too staunchly.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this sacking or cancellation or whatever it’s labelled feels a bit more layered in that it’s not about any kind of ‘change of image’ that Gino D’Acampo might not fit with anymore …we see that a lot as well, don’t we…that a personality is replaced because it’s felt that they no longer fit with whatever that network is aiming to project….but this is very specific in that it’s a very serious allegation about his character as a person, not Gino as a celebrity …so far as I can see and there lies the difference, I would say…and that’s something that will surely impact how possible future employers would see him in deciding if he’s the right personality for their programmes and viewers etc….i don’t even know him that well in terms of watching him but what I don’t understand with this is things like the wording that ITV are giving…like ‘following on from etc/etc allegations …’…but it isn’t following on from because these are allegations going back, some over a decade…?…so there has apparently been this huge period of doing nothing and apparently allowing a behaviour to continue before any ‘following on from’ I becomes a thing….and if no action was deemed to be the ‘correct action’ for all of those years, why a complete overturn and instant sacking now…?…

It is certainly odd to say the least.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I agree with this but I wouldnt call it censorship.

I think it's two things. Sensibilities have changed and the way we consume media has changed.

Things that were acceptable 15 years ago are rightly not acceptable now and the two shows I mentioned, I think its right they are no longer shown on terrestrial TV. Full of stereotypes and one has some quite dodgy politics

Things like, The Sky Sports Socceretes, Take Me Out, and lads mags like Nuts and Zoo were of their time but not appropriate anymore. I wouldn't call it censorship because they don't conform to newfound sensibilities

All these shows are available if we want to watch them and can find them. Due to the way we now consume media we'll be able to watch say, Celebrity Juice but not a broadcast of repeats on ITV2. I've got no problem with that

Wasn't 'Take me out 'just a dating show though?, did it get complaints ?. The worst one that's aged badly now is that channel 4 / E4 ' fool around ' ...which encouraged partners to cheat on their boyfriends & girlfriends to convince the main contestant that they're " single " so they could win money. I can understand why they'd never revive that weird cringe TV show.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this sacking or cancellation or whatever it’s labelled feels a bit more layered in that it’s not about any kind of ‘change of image’ that Gino D’Acampo might not fit with anymore …we see that a lot as well, don’t we…that a personality is replaced because it’s felt that they no longer fit with whatever that network is aiming to project….but this is very specific in that it’s a very serious allegation about his character as a person, not Gino as a celebrity …so far as I can see and there lies the difference, I would say…and that’s something that will surely impact how possible future employers would see him in deciding if he’s the right personality for their programmes and viewers etc….i don’t even know him that well in terms of watching him but what I don’t understand with this is things like the wording that ITV are giving…like ‘following on from etc/etc allegations …’…but it isn’t following on from because these are allegations going back, some over a decade…?…so there has apparently been this huge period of doing nothing and apparently allowing a behaviour to continue before any ‘following on from’ I becomes a thing….and if no action was deemed to be the ‘correct action’ for all of those years, why a complete overturn and instant sacking now…?…

I think he upset someone, there was some issue and he didn't renew his contract with Gordon, Gino and Fred as he said he was too busy but then he did another programme recently just with Fred on green issues I think ...there is definately more to this story than just a few salacious comments behind the scenes which is how he was on screen so why would it be such a big deal given it was more Carry On style than intimidating