[rusticgal]

What I hate about people like Dave is that when they preach they expect people to be 'yes' men.
When they are challenged...they dont like it.Dave gave no proof about what he believes in...unyet expects people to believe.

He didnt like it and got really nasty....GET HIM OUT!!!

[coolestrock]

ive stopped hating him now as the guy is obviously seriously mentally ill,,,,it must be a shame for him really,, its sad that he uses his mental illness to con ppl out of their money

[paper-cut-exit]

Yup... tried to make them feel guilty for not believing then played the victim card claiming he was being ridiculed.

[Peter Plunker]

He did none of the above. He responded well imo.

[paper-cut-exit]

He clearly did!

[coolestrock]

aside from shiabash in bb7,,,,dave is the first mentally ill person bb have allowed to stay in the house,,,,,he's obviously conned the producers into thinking he is a normal person,,,,,,however he is quite clearly delusional and should be seen by doctors asap

[cookiemonster]

he isn't mentally ill, he just has very odd beliefs. like John James i think it was said "you spent half your life on acid" that's obviously had an effect on him.

[Colbert-Bump]

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Colbert-Bump

It's Dave's mate PP, here is his other mate




















































spot him?

[tremault]

i don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with Dave.
a lot of people have see some very odd things and generally tend to ignore or explain away by some science principal or something.
there are many rare occurrences like ball lightning that many people would totally freak out at if they saw it first hand.
there are many weird things that happen in the world, but to say outright that it is 'werewolf' or invisible people or whatever... is just a little foolish.
I'm not going to say he is crazy but i think he is approaching it from a foolish angle.
If I had witnessed something that i might describe as a werewolf, I would not describe it as a werewolf I would describe it as a strange behaviour and scary facial contortion.

it's just a sign of the times really, we don't explain things with witchcraft and monsters, we explain with possible scientific theory.
but it doesn't change what really happens. just puts a different spin on it.

[Claymores]

But he only witnessed the werewolf - couldn't see the invisible person so just read about it. It was documented tho like the documented case John threw back at him:

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by coolestrock

aside from shiabash in bb7,,,,dave is the first mentally ill person bb have allowed to stay in the house,,,,,he's obviously conned the producers into thinking he is a normal person,,,,,,however he is quite clearly delusional and should be seen by doctors asap

The only explanation for you is a 'con' and a con so diabolical it duped psychiatrists at BB.
The other explanation is that he is not mentally ill. Wait. He is not 'pathological' and it doesn't interfere with his ability to carry out daily life.

Having said that, plenty of people believe not only in were-apes but believe there were millions upon billions of them transforming from ape-like creatures into humans over millions of days.
They have never seen any such thing and even take ape skeletons, line them up in order and pick the 'most human' one and call it their great grandmother.
Most are 'sane'.

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

The only explanation for you is a 'con' and a con so diabolical it duped psychiatrists at BB.
The other explanation is that he is not mentally ill. Wait. He is not 'pathological' and it doesn't interfere with his ability to carry out daily life.

Having said that, plenty of people believe not only in were-apes but believe there were millions upon billions of them transforming from ape-like creatures into humans over millions of days.
They have never seen any such thing and even take ape skeletons, line them up in order and pick the 'most human' one and call it their great grandmother.
Most are 'sane'.

What's next, tying belief in fairies together with acceptance of gravity?

(novella on "micro vs. macro", transitional species and other fallacies not required)

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by stonedape

What's next, tying belief in fairies together with acceptance of gravity?

(novella on "micro vs. macro", transitional species and other fallacies not required)

I'm levitating as we speak

[tremault]

people only accept faeries as make-believe because they haven't been captured for everyone to gawk at.

I think the concept is pretty fantastic but nature does fantastic things all the time.
I don't think it's very likely that these things exist in our world but i won't rule it out as impossible.
something is only impossible until it isn't.
like talking to somebody on the other side of the planet using a little black box.

[Big_Kahuna]

Good old acid trips....

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by stonedape

What's next, tying belief in fairies together with acceptance of gravity?

(novella on "micro vs. macro", transitional species and other fallacies not required)

'Micro and Macro' are unhelpful terms often used in 'trick definition', transitional species are purely imagined and so I appreciate you don't embarrass me or anyone else with those or other fallacies,
but,
some say that that Dinosaurs transformed into tiny little hummingbirds while some mammals transformed into pretty little ladies today,
so,
given those beliefs then some sort of small birds turning into tiny flying women,
or,
some women eventually evolving tiny size and wings (Tinkerus Fairiesus) is easily as believable and given enough time entirely likely.
After all, these same people believe some kind of frog transformed into today's princes.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by tremault

people only accept faeries as make-believe because they haven't been captured for everyone to gawk at.

I think the concept is pretty fantastic but nature does fantastic things all the time.
I don't think it's very likely that these things exist in our world but i won't rule it out as impossible.
something is only impossible until it isn't.
like talking to somebody on the other side of the planet using a little black box.

you speak much sense and the pope is a protestant - here is santa again with your presents :

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Big_Kahuna

Good old acid trips....

[SoBig]

I've seen werewolves and invisible people before. So I know they are real.

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

'Micro and Macro' are unhelpful terms often used in 'trick definition', transitional species are purely imagined and so I appreciate you don't embarrass me or anyone else with those or other fallacies,
but,
some say that that Dinosaurs transformed into tiny little hummingbirds while some mammals transformed into pretty little ladies today,
so,
given those beliefs then some sort of small birds turning into tiny flying women,
or,
some women eventually evolving tiny size and wings (Tinkerus Fairiesus) is easily as believable and given enough time entirely likely.
After all, these same people believe some kind of frog transformed into today's princes.

And the award for loosest and most misleading use of the word "transform" goes to...ElProximo!!!! This isn't Disney sparkles we're talking about, it's populations, death and survival, reproduction, inheritance, mutation, etc in a changing environment. It's actually relatively boring and only controversial for some people already attached to creation myths.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by SoBig

I've seen werewolves and invisible people before. So I know they are real.

Seeing invisible people is quite an achivement - Dave only saw a werewolf and read the rest

[tremault]

the only reason evolution is seen as 'normal' is peer pressure.
everyone around us accepts it as fact and so we follow like good little sheep.
it's a survival instinct. we follow the people around us because they are alive so we mimic them to become as successful as they are.
people ridicule 'crazy ideas' because they are not brave enough to take a chance.

it's also why many people born to religious families stay religious etc.

[stonedape]

I can assure you I don't think evolution is normal due to peer pressure. I was raised in rural America. It was called evilution and attributed to Nazis before I even knew what it was about.

Then I went to college.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Seeing invisible people is quite an achivement - Dave only saw a werewolf and read the rest

I've seen people transform into cats and snakes before. Its crazy stuff man.