[Locke.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

The recent Bombs have been the work of perhaps 2 people. The guy who attacked lennon was one person (Hearts fan) so lets not get hysterical. The rivalry is no different than many, just a bit more intense and drink fueled.

oh and both clubs are sponsored by a lager company!

[keithafc]

Watp!. :d

[seanraff07]

Both Celtic and Rangers are a disgrace to Scottish Football, they are both equally as bad as eachother... and Hearts are gradually working their way up the steps of being total and utter scum too.

How do the Old Firm expect to get their dream move to the EPL when their fans can't behave themselves? And Rangers all but ruined any chances when they decided to wreck Manchester at the UEFA Cup Final.

I thought the recent BBC documentary was utter dross and didn't go indepth at all, if you watched that as a viewer not already clued up on the sectarianism that goes on in Scotland, wouldn't have thought the situation is that bad watching the documentary, but really it's a huge problem. If they want proper video evidence of religious/sectarian singing from Celtic/Rangers fans then why the **** did they go to an u19s game? Go to a first-team OF derby where a much wider variety of vile songs are sung.

Also the bellend Hearts fan attacking Lennon didn't show all. One of my mates at the game was in the Hearts main stand in the section where there tends to be 'aggro' between the Hearts fans and opposition supporters. He got pelted in the head by a coin thrown from the Celtic end and had to go to First Aid and receive treatment, this lot are as bad as eachother and get what they deserve. But what about the innocent families who go to the game to actually watch the football? They shouldn't have to put up with all this sectarian bile that is chanted at the game, and how are younger supporters going to react to this? They'll eventually pick up on it and the situation will get even worse over the years.

As a Hibs fan myself, our support don't sing any sectarian songs, however being a ST holder in the singing section at Easter Road I hear basically every chant sung at the games. And our derby games against Hearts, there is a large amount of racist gestures made towards Hearts players, and also many objects are thrown every time they are near to corner flag. I despise Hearts and every little thing about them but there is a line that just shouldn't be crossed and sectarianism/religion/racism come under this, none of these things have a place in Football so serious action should be taken to stamp it out.

The longer all this is left the worse it's going to get... they need to take serious action like playing games at Parkhead and Ibrox behind closed doors, then I'd bet the fans sort themselves out. The amount of crap the Green Brigade Ultras display and chant at Parkhead is ridiculous.

[Locke.]

Leave Hearts out of this they are a great side

[seanraff07]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Leave Hearts out of this they are a great side

They are a debt-ridden club ran by a mad owner paying ****e players ridiculous wages that they cannot afford. Trust me once Romanov has to step down as chairman due to old age, Hearts could well fall down the gutter.

And to add to that they are just generally scum!

[seanraff07]

Originally Posted by Locke.

[Locke.]

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by seanraff07

Both Celtic and Rangers are a disgrace to Scottish Football, they are both equally as bad as eachother... and Hearts are gradually working their way up the steps of being total and utter scum too.

How do the Old Firm expect to get their dream move to the EPL when their fans can't behave themselves? And Rangers all but ruined any chances when they decided to wreck Manchester at the UEFA Cup Final.

I thought the recent BBC documentary was utter dross and didn't go indepth at all, if you watched that as a viewer not already clued up on the sectarianism that goes on in Scotland, wouldn't have thought the situation is that bad watching the documentary, but really it's a huge problem. If they want proper video evidence of religious/sectarian singing from Celtic/Rangers fans then why the **** did they go to an u19s game? Go to a first-team OF derby where a much wider variety of vile songs are sung.

Also the bellend Hearts fan attacking Lennon didn't show all. One of my mates at the game was in the Hearts main stand in the section where there tends to be 'aggro' between the Hearts fans and opposition supporters. He got pelted in the head by a coin thrown from the Celtic end and had to go to First Aid and receive treatment, this lot are as bad as eachother and get what they deserve. But what about the innocent families who go to the game to actually watch the football? They shouldn't have to put up with all this sectarian bile that is chanted at the game, and how are younger supporters going to react to this? They'll eventually pick up on it and the situation will get even worse over the years.

As a Hibs fan myself, our support don't sing any sectarian songs, however being a ST holder in the singing section at Easter Road I hear basically every chant sung at the games. And our derby games against Hearts, there is a large amount of racist gestures made towards Hearts players, and also many objects are thrown every time they are near to corner flag. I despise Hearts and every little thing about them but there is a line that just shouldn't be crossed and sectarianism/religion/racism come under this, none of these things have a place in Football so serious action should be taken to stamp it out.

The longer all this is left the worse it's going to get... they need to take serious action like playing games at Parkhead and Ibrox behind closed doors, then I'd bet the fans sort themselves out. The amount of crap the Green Brigade Ultras display and chant at Parkhead is ridiculous.

Good post! The whole thing is just a disgrace..

[Novo]

If it wasn't for Rangers, Scotland would only have 1 champions league spot for the 2012/2013 champions league.. show some bloody respect to your champions

[seanraff07]

Originally Posted by Locke.

He's just a skinny Christian Nade

[seanraff07]

Originally Posted by Novo

If it wasn't for Rangers, Scotland would only have 1 champions league spot for the 2012/2013 champions league.. show some bloody respect to your champions

I'd prefer that. It means only one set of the OF supporters can embarrass Scotland to the rest of the world.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Novo

If it wasn't for Rangers, Scotland would only have 1 champions league spot for the 2012/2013 champions league.. show some bloody respect to your champions

I'm not disputing Rangers/Celtic are good football teams.. I'm saying their fans and the hatred and open bigotry is a disgrace in this day and age

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

Rangers and Celtic fans should take note of Queen recent visit to Ireland.
Stupid religious bickering is THE PAST.
Its time to move one.
The rivalry should be just football based and very fierce.
Leave the religious hatred out of it.

I agree, I think that was a huge step forward.