[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Josy

If Danielle ruined Helen then why is she the one that has taken a back seater and completely faded into the background?

I think Danielle did a decent job of taking on Helen way back at the beginning, on the night anyway. The difference is that she came away feeling quite intimidated and so shrunk back, whereas Helen was unaffected and carried on as normal.

This is mainly because (and note, I don't even particularly like her) Danielle is a human person with human fears and emotions, whereas Helen is a satanic magical golem consisting of leather from the boots of retired coal miners held together with bucket loads of Wayne Rooney's spunk.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

So disappointed in Danielle

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Cant stand either Danielle or Ashleigh. Neither of the miserable bitches have cracked a smile in weeks. They acting like they are superior to everyone else. Well they aren't ! And I am NOT a fan of most of the other group. And Im sorry but I have to bring this cuddling a teddybear into it. Ashleigh is 18 years old. NOBODY should still be cuddling a stuffed toy like a baby. I know other housemates have did it in the past but its really a joke. Grow the **** up you baby

What the **** is it with people keeping on bringing up that cuddly toy thing? I'm sick of seeing it mentioned, it's irrelevant...in fact I hadn't even noticed before people pointed it out if people of any age want to carry around things that give them comfort then they're absolutely entitled to do that...it doesn't change them as a person. Why are people so judgemental about such non-issues? It's awful

[jet]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Cant stand either Danielle or Ashleigh. Neither of the miserable bitches have cracked a smile in weeks. They acting like they are superior to everyone else. Well they aren't ! And I am NOT a fan of most of the other group. And Im sorry but I have to bring this cuddling a teddybear into it. Ashleigh is 18 years old. NOBODY should still be cuddling a stuffed toy like a baby. I know other housemates have did it in the past but its really a joke. Grow the **** up you baby

A bit harsh.

Ashleigh's more mature than Helen in many ways. Helen still has a schoolyard mentality with no self awareness or social manners. Helen is the one who needs to grow up and realize that throwing tantrums is childish and something she should have grown out of 20 years ago.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Jack_

What the **** is it with people keeping on bringing up that cuddly toy thing? I'm sick of seeing it mentioned, it's irrelevant...in fact I hadn't even noticed before people pointed it out if people of any age want to carry around things that give them comfort then they're absolutely entitled to do that...it doesn't change them as a person. Why are people so judgemental about such non-issues? It's awful

I think people need to grow up and aside from the aforementioned toy ( and I am not the only one who brought it up Jack) Ashleigh is trying to act the woman but is all bloody talk and no action

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by jet

A bit harsh.

Ashleigh's more mature than Helen in many ways. Helen still has a schoolyard mentality with no self awareness or social manners. Helen is the one who needs to grow up and realize that throwing tantrums is childish and something she should have grown out of 20 years ago.

Helen is an entity all to herself. I don't like her. I haven't seen any maturity in Ashleigh if I am honest. She did nothing for the first two weeks cept hang around with Danielle and Kim then she crept under Toyas wing and was schooled by her. Now that Toya is gone she is just sitting around with Danielle all the time. The thing I have the problem most with her is that she hasn't even TRIED with the rest of the housemates

[GypsyGoth]

The Pod People are kinda getting tiresome. There isn't much point in giving them camera time if all they're doing is bitching about Kim & Helen.

Hopefully this week will bring all the girls closer together and maybe an end to the bitching.

[rubymoo]

To be fair in the real world people bitch behind each others backs, because we know socially it's not acceptable to 'say it as it is', people who 'say it as it is' are more about themselves.

I respect and understand that what Ashleigh and Danielle are doing is how people generally and naturally react in the real world, they aren't cowards they're behaving how many of us would naturally behave.

I think they're playing a great game and they're keeping me entertained!

I'm getting sick of all the face offs!

[jet]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Helen is an entity all to herself. I don't like her. I haven't seen any maturity in Ashleigh if I am honest. She did nothing for the first two weeks cept hang around with Danielle and Kim then she crept under Toyas wing and was schooled by her. Now that Toya is gone she is just sitting around with Danielle all the time. The thing I have the problem most with her is that she hasn't even TRIED with the rest of the housemates

Nor have they tried with her...as the 'baby' of the house, you'd think the older HM's would have made just a little effort to make her feel at home.
Not that she needs them to...

[jet]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

The Pod People are kinda getting tiresome. There isn't much point in giving them camera time if all they're doing is bitching about Kim & Helen.

Hopefully this week will bring all the girls closer together and maybe an end to the bitching.

Helen gets plenty of camera time when she's bitching to be fair...

[Headie]

They're the only thing that keeps me interested in this show, I love them both