[arista]

http://www.france24.com/en/20141128-...ational-front/

[Marine Le Pen is hoping to build
on a year of momentous electoral
victories to establish her
National Front as France’s pre-eminent
political force – a battle some say
the far-right party has already won.
National Front party members
gathered in Lyon on Saturday
for the start of their two-day
party conference.
France's third-largest city,
Lyon is also a left-wing bastion
with a proud record of resistance
to fascism during World War II.
Its choice underscores the party's
all-conquering confidence ahead
of next year's regional polls.]



UKIP is saying No to talk with her.

[JoshBB]

she and her party are racists and i hope they dont get elected.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

she and her party are racists and i hope they dont get elected.

But in France many back her
as immigrants
upset the locals

[Nedusa]

I suspect she will fail in all her Political objectives... Thankfully





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[Kizzy]

What? are they not as accepting of fascists in France as we are?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What? are they not as accepting of fascists in France as we are?

They have nothing like UKIP


So its LePen
or Conservative , or Socialist.

From the Reports
on France24
she does well in villages that have
negative immigrants there

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What? are they not as accepting of fascists in France as we are?

Ouch!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

But in France many back her
as immigrants
upset the locals

As with UKIP in the UK, she and her party will gain in popularity in France. Also as with UKIP here, it will be 'baby steps' at first; small gains, but gains nonetheless, and every journey starts with just one step.

I abhor her politics but what must be understood here; is that the indigenous population of France - as with the UK - are sick of unfettered immigration, and when someone who is sick is being ignored by his doctor, then he will eventually turn to any 'quack' - no matter how unsavoury or 'iffy' - just as long as that quack is promising a cure for that sickness.

A depressed Economy, an impoverished standard of living, escalating unemployment, increasing crime rates, and an uncertain future, are the ideal 'seed bed' for racism to grow and flourish, and prolonged suffering under such conditions by the discontented indigenous masses, will eventually render them more receptive to the rhetoric and propaganda of any Fascist who is clever enough to exploit the 'status quo', by blaming immigrants as the cause of all these ills, and promising economic utopia by eradicating that cause - just as with Hitler in 1920's Germany.

Just as with the UK, if the 'moderate' political parties in France do not address the aforementioned issues - even if that means forgoing 'Political Correctness' and implementing draconian immigration policies - then they will consequently be eclipsed and marginalised by their fascist counterparts.

Sometimes the harshest of pruning is the only way to save a diseased tree.

[Kizzy]

Fascism is the disease..

We here are given massive amounts of misinformation about immigration, employers are advertising positions in other countries to encourage workers to come.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Fascism is the disease..

We here are given massive amounts of misinformation about immigration, employers are advertising positions in other countries to encourage workers to come.

Hitler did well with it.
After 1939


Taking Over France in 1940 june

[Kizzy]

Define 'well'....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Define 'well'....

Well for 4 or 5 years
with his Master Plan


No one stopped him

[Kizzy]

The fact it failed, and being based on genocide must tell you something?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The fact it failed, and being based on genocide must tell you something?

It was quick and effective in its execution. The occupation plan was not so well thought.

[MTVN]

Ukip aren't fascist. Le Pen's Front National sort of fulfil more of the criteria in that they favour big state protectionism, but now that the word seems to get used to describe anyone right of centre - despite the massive spectrum of right wing political thought - it's become somewhat meaningless, as with how anyone left of centre often gets slandered as 'socialist'

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The fact it failed, and being based on genocide must tell you something?

Only that it took the All World Nations
except Japan to stop it.



His Evil Master Plan had a 4 year run

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Ukip aren't fascist. Le Pen's Front National sort of fulfil more of the criteria in that they favour big state protectionism, but now that the word seems to get used to describe anyone right of centre - despite the massive spectrum of right wing political thought - it's become somewhat meaningless, as with how anyone left of centre often gets slandered as 'socialist'

Yes Kizzy must understand that better

[JoshBB]

it's almost like you're codoning hitler, arista!! we now have an example between links of hitler and ukip.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

it's almost like you're codoning hitler, arista!! we now have an example between links of hitler and ukip.

No this thread is about France

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Kizzy must understand that better

I understand plenty thank you, I understand that there is at the moment a distinct 'conditioning' vibe across the UK.
I do feel UKIP could in the future manifest into something extreme judging by the groups that currently support them, they don't do much to distance themselves from them do they?
So suggesting that in time they may exhibit fascistic ideology isn't that absurd is it?