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18-05-2007, 09:37 AM | #1 | |||
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From www.metro.co.uk
A barrister provoked outrage yesterday by claiming that the victim of an alleged gang rape was so fat she would have been 'glad of the attention'. Sheilagh Davies, defending one of three boys accused of raping two girls, said the 16-year-old girl had 'slimmed down a lot' since the alleged attack. She told Inner London Crown Court: 'She was 12st 6lb – not quite the swan she may turn into. She may well have been glad of the attention.' 'It is all too unrealistic that sexual encounters between boys and girls who have never met before must be against the girls' will. They are learning to be sexually attractive, perhaps before their time. 'It is all about, "Let's try it, let's get on with it".' The boys, who were all 13 at the time of the alleged attack, are accused of stealing the girls' mobile phones on a bus and raping them repeatedly in a park. The 16-year-old victim said she was made to perform a 'disgusting' sex act and her friend, also 16, claimed she was forced to strip and lie face down while she was raped in a park in Churchdown, Bromley, on November 23 last year. The defendants, all from Catford, South- East London, allegedly told the girls they would be killed if they called police. All three were arrested within a few days of the attacks but claimed that either nothing had happened or the girls had consented to sex. Two defendants have since turned 14. The three deny various charges of robbery, rape, attempted rape and sexual assault. The trial continues. |
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18-05-2007, 09:56 AM | #2 | |||
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I've heard that argument before. You'd be surprised how many people feel this in date rape cases. It's a can of worms.
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18-05-2007, 09:56 AM | #3 | |||
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Date rape?
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18-05-2007, 10:00 AM | #4 | |||
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I was giving an example. I'm not saying this is a date rape case. I 'm saying that I've heard this argument in date rapes cases.
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18-05-2007, 10:00 AM | #5 | |||
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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18-05-2007, 10:13 AM | #6 | |||
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There was a programme on TV about six years ago on date rapists. In it one of the guys used this argument to justify his crime. It was a real eye opener
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18-05-2007, 10:49 AM | #7 | |||
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That's a terrible thing to say! She went through one of the most traumatic things a person can go through and someone makes a stupid, heartless comment like that, she should be sacked.
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18-05-2007, 11:08 AM | #8 | |||
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I agree. "Tactless" just doesn't describe her comments.
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18-05-2007, 11:12 AM | #9 | |||
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She's giving her client the best defense she can.
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18-05-2007, 11:18 AM | #10 | |||
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18-05-2007, 11:33 AM | #11 | |||
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It's dirty filthy job but someone has to do it.
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18-05-2007, 02:03 PM | #12 | |||
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Sadly though it is all to familiar, the barristers, solicitors etc look for ways to discredit the woman rather than actually defend their clients complete innocence. Less and less women will report this type of crime as they know they are going to seriously get dragged through the mud to even possibly gain a succesful conviction
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25-05-2007, 01:26 PM | #13 | ||
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On the other hand i firmly believe the accused should have anonymity until they have been found guilty.
I have problems with this as I went out with a girl that was rapped. This was a proper abducted held prisoner raped. In the end she went for serious sexual assault so she did not have to be cross examined. He got 8 years. It should have been more but she could not go through the court process if she had stuck with rape. It destroyed her. So yes I think they were bang out of order saying that but then there have been cases where the woman has changed her mind the next day and claimed rape. How do we know she did not have a group thing with the boys and regret it the next day and to protect her reputation cried rape? |
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26-05-2007, 08:56 AM | #14 | ||
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That's a bit harsh.
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05-06-2007, 11:38 PM | #15 | ||
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i think that is absolutley disgusting an i feel soory for those girls, all people that are sexually assualted i damaged for life, with what tat judge said about the girl that was was raped i think it was totally outrageous
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