[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

The only point you discussed was high vis jackets, which would never be worth 20 pages on tibb in my opinion, so I'm struggling to see the parallel you were trying to make. Was there a different aspect of the short section you watched that would be worth a 20 page discussion under a different title?

if you are struggling then I can't help you understand my point, given Brillo got it immediately I think it's fairly obvious

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

NM have you swallowed a Daily Mail?

In fairness to NM, his debating skills are pretty decent.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Talaq (Muslim divorce) isn't recognised in the UK unless the divorce took place out of this country. They have to go through normal UK proceedings for a decree absolute and then if they wish, they can go to a Sharia court for a Talaq. Its the same with marriage. Many Muslims in the UK have what's called a Nikah ceremony but this isn't recognized as a marriage under British law and so if a Talaq goes ahead after a Nikah marriage, as far as English law is concerned, the couple were merely cohabiting.

Yeah but how many of them even operate under UK law.Many will just get a Sharia divorce then an Islamic marriage and carry on.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

In fairness to NM, his debating skills are pretty decent.

Thank you.I am a master(de)baiter

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah but how many of them even operate under UK law.Many will just get a Sharia divorce then an Islamic marriage and carry on.

More fool them. Legally married foreign couples in the UK have more rights than couples who cohabit. This is no different to Brits who get married on a choral island out in the Pacific. If they don't do things according to British law, then British law will not step in as their protectorate when the **** hits the fan.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

More fool them. Legally married foreign couples in the UK have more rights than couples who cohabit. This is no different to Brits who get married on a choral island out in the Pacific. If they don't do things according to British law, then British law will not step in as their protectorate when the **** hits the fan.

Hence why women get treated the way they do in those communities.
They're a law unto themselves.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Thank you.I am a master(de)baiter

Stands well back!

[Withasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie

if you are struggling then I can't help you understand my point, given Brillo got it immediately I think it's fairly obvious

Brillo either also thought it was Kizzy in the video or that you were trying to mock members of forum for being inconsistent though, and you already suggested you never intended on mocking anybody. So something doesnt add up.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Hence why women get treated the way they do in those communities.
They're a law unto themselves.

They probably have very little knowledge of their civil rights within a British marriage. If all they have ever know is Sharia law, to them a Nikah marriage is
the real thing.

Under Sharia law, a divorced woman can normally keep her child until the age of seven and then that child must be handed over to the father. In the UK though, regardless of a Nikah marriage or a Talaq divorce, British law will decide who should keep full or part custody of the children... Sharia courts have no power over this.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

They probably have very little knowledge of their civil rights within a British marriage. If all they have ever know is Sharia law, to them a Nikah marriage is
the real thing.

Under Sharia law, a divorced woman can normally keep her child until the age of seven and then that child must be handed over to the father. In the UK though, regardless of a Nikah marriage or a Talaq divorce, British law will decide who should keep full or part custody of the children... Sharia courts have no power over this.

Legally no.However i have seen something recently-ish where a woman was having alot of trouble getting her kids back.Can't remember where i saw it.She had UK lawyers involved.There was one lawyer who deals with this stuff all the time and was saying how hard it can be.
Infact it might be in an old thread on here.

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

Brillo either also thought it was Kizzy in the video or that you were trying to mock members of forum for being inconsistent though, and you already suggested you never intended on mocking anybody. So something doesnt add up.

I'd give up now before you get brain ache!

[Northern Monkey]

Here you go

Youtube video

[Withasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'd give up now before you get brain ache!

I'm giving up to avoid more of your negativity. On some mocking spree today, you.

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

I'm giving up to avoid more of your negativity. On some mocking spree today, you.

Good call

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Ronald.

I keep reading this as Shania and think she has announce uk tour dates. I'd love to see her live. R.

[Withasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Good call

The confusion you have for the infractions and bans of other members are slowly starting to make sense after seeing the behaviour you've shown in this thread.

[DemolitionRed]

@NM: Hmm, unregulated, unauthorized and little accountability. It sounds like many of these courts simply aren't working in favour of the women. I'm glad there are people working and campaigning for a better system of divorce under Sharia law.

There are clearly problems that need sorting out. What frustrates me is the general misunderstanding of what Sharia law is when its used within Britain. Its not criminal law and regardless of the obvious problems with it, it does not and never can work in parallel with English law.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

The confusion you have for the infractions and bans of other members are slowly starting to make sense after seeing the behaviour you've shown in this thread.

You're the one who sounds confused to me.