[sampvt]

Originally Posted by rionablue

oh my god sam we agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Actually we agree on quite a lot and I also think you are one of the better poster but that does not stop me voicing my opinions, lol. TBH a lot of posters on here think I am just plain nasty, I'm not, I am just a grumpy old twot that cant stand deceptive people.

The only 4 I really dont like this year are in order.....Kimberly, Ashleigh, Mark and Chris. The rest are just pathetic apart from Helen who I have grown to like because she is a constant factor and definitely not deceptive at all, she is just a bitch all the time but makes the series.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Actually we agree on quite a lot and I also think you are one of the better poster but that does not stop me voicing my opinions, lol. TBH a lot of posters on here think I am just plain nasty, I'm not, I am just a grumpy old twot that cant stand deceptive people.

The only 4 I really dont like this year are in order.....Kimberly, Ashleigh, Mark and Chris. The rest are just pathetic apart from Helen who I have grown to like because she is a constant factor and definitely not deceptive at all, she is just a bitch all the time but makes the series.

Helen not deceptive

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by delta

Are you sure you are watching the same program as the rest of us?


For 38 days all Ashliegh and Danielle did was sit up on high and judge along with the their leader, forget her name, the Nigerian girl. Now that Danielle has gone the, oh so nice Ashliegh, has completely disowned her bitching partner and stated she was the reason for keeping her down nothing to do with being bullied or shouted down by the 'cool gang' ,and as far as I can see she is every bit of a biatch as Helen has been portrayed to be.

The problem is, they are life's victims and this show is just a portrayal of life, you can't play a game like this for so long it's quantam maths, in short, your behaviour will out. Add into the deliberate meddling by BB and there is no way you can short circuit this program, it was it is and the people are what they are. It's quite clear who the game players are, nothing wrong with that but they aren't, for the most, coming from the cool gang.

As for saying that the victim gang would be a lot more at ease if certain members of the cool gang weren't around in nonsense, the victims wouldn't know how to enjoy themselves if they were left a house full of booze, a load of records and gear to dress up in. As the Alexandre O'neil song goes, " All you want to do is criticise, if it gives the victims some sort of power and position they can't do anything else, feel inadequate ( where in reality, they could if they just let the poison go)

How apt that now Danielle has gone, Ashleigh has now turned to Chris to be her bitching partner, they both constantly need to justify their own self worth by putting down others. Passive aggression in its' worst format. To a lesser extent you can include Christopher and ' I am everyone's friend, I am not having it' razor wire up his Jacksie- Mark in the above fest as well.

This is the Ashleigh I like.

Youtube video

Big Brother cannot manipulate me into thinking she does nothing but bitch 24/7 because they let the cat out of the bag when they uploaded this video. Few days earlier Chris called her amazing. Who calls someone amazing if all they do is mope about all day?
If you see a housemate bitching for 2 minutes in a day that consists of 24 hours, that doesn't mean they do nothing but bitch. It only means that BB choose to show the bitching because that is what they like for their show. They like bitching, fighting and high drama. I would quite happily watch 45 minutes of normal conversation every single night. That was the reason I decided to watch the very first Big Brother. To see how 10 different people interact trapped in a house together.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Achilles

This is the Ashleigh I like.

Youtube video

Big Brother cannot manipulate me into thinking she does nothing but bitch 24/7 because they let the cat out of the bag when they uploaded this video. Few days earlier Chris called her amazing. Who calls someone amazing if all they do is mope about all day?
If you see a housemate bitching for 2 minutes in a day that consists of 24 hours, that doesn't mean they do nothing but bitch. It only means that BB choose to show the bitching because that is what they like for their show. They like bitching, fighting and high drama. I would quite happily watch 45 minutes of normal conversation every single night. That was the reason I decided to watch the very first Big Brother. To see how 10 different people interact trapped in a house together.

And why 24/7 live feed can tell people so much more.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Jale distanced herself from helen and kim in that argument

Truth.

[RockBottom]

Originally Posted by Achilles

This is the Ashleigh I like.

Youtube video

Big Brother cannot manipulate me into thinking she does nothing but bitch 24/7 because they let the cat out of the bag when they uploaded this video. Few days earlier Chris called her amazing. Who calls someone amazing if all they do is mope about all day?
If you see a housemate bitching for 2 minutes in a day that consists of 24 hours, that doesn't mean they do nothing but bitch. It only means that BB choose to show the bitching because that is what they like for their show. They like bitching, fighting and high drama. I would quite happily watch 45 minutes of normal conversation every single night. That was the reason I decided to watch the very first Big Brother. To see how 10 different people interact trapped in a house together.

"NEWS FLASH" Chris is an actor remember. The one thing he an Ashleigh have in common is they like to stand on their high pedestals looking down on the other housemates. The pedestals will eventually crash down around them.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Actually we agree on quite a lot and I also think you are one of the better poster but that does not stop me voicing my opinions, lol. TBH a lot of posters on here think I am just plain nasty, I'm not, I am just a grumpy old twot that cant stand deceptive people.

The only 4 I really dont like this year are in order.....Kimberly, Ashleigh, Mark and Chris. The rest are just pathetic apart from Helen who I have grown to like because she is a constant factor and definitely not deceptive at all, she is just a bitch all the time but makes the series.

Firstly from your posts I could never figure out if you are male or female and secondly I could never figure out how old you are either lol. I usually pick a housemate on launch night and staunchly support them through thick and thin unless they let me down which has happened once or twice. Kim was way out ahead of everyone else for me but like you I don't like Ashleigh or Mark either and I am going off Chris. I hated Helen but she is now almost on top of the list cos I think there is a vulnerability that she has been trying so hard to hide.

Of all the girls in there despite the bitching and foul language she has been the most entertaining and yes Kim has been the quietest but when I was her age I was a bit like her and I can see a lot of myself in her therefore I still hope she will be ok and that she hasn't been twofaced etc like you have suggested. Thank you for the compliment about my posting. I wouldn't have expected it from my 'old' adversary haha I am still preparing myself in case I have to bow and scrape

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by KeanO

Pity the majority of the public don't

[Lex]

Don't think that anyone has been bullied since Pauline left!...Even then...she hit and missed! She picked on the wrong one in Jale...because she thrived on it!...But she was an evil so and so for aiming her bile at poor little insecure Christopher! ...[no kidding, he's a genuine good-guy!!]...also i'd like to point out that his new [since the crowd's cheers] best friend 'Mark' was totally compliant with the sniping at Christopher back then , when he wasn't aware that Christopher was more popular than 'Queen-Pauline'!...which makes me wonder why such an obvious deceitful game-player such as Mark is so very popular with the general public??....to me, he is as obvious as that 'Charlie Drummond' was when he latched on to 'Rodrigo Lopez's' popularity!! [didn't work for him...hope it doesn't work for Mark!]

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Firstly from your posts I could never figure out if you are male or female and secondly I could never figure out how old you are either lol. I usually pick a housemate on launch night and staunchly support them through thick and thin unless they let me down which has happened once or twice. Kim was way out ahead of everyone else for me but like you I don't like Ashleigh or Mark either and I am going off Chris. I hated Helen but she is now almost on top of the list cos I think there is a vulnerability that she has been trying so hard to hide.

Of all the girls in there despite the bitching and foul language she has been the most entertaining and yes Kim has been the quietest but when I was her age I was a bit like her and I can see a lot of myself in her therefore I still hope she will be ok and that she hasn't been twofaced etc like you have suggested. Thank you for the compliment about my posting. I wouldn't have expected it from my 'old' adversary haha I am still preparing myself in case I have to bow and scrape

Just for you I will put my own picture up so you can see who I am. lol

[sampvt]

The clip tonight of Ashleigh moaning to Chris about the party invites shows who she is when she doesent get what she wants.

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by delta

We have a group in there who perceive them selves as victims. The underdogs as some on here quote, not very good at anything other than watching, monitoring, huddling in secret and bitching their time away instead of getting involved and enjoying the experience they have been given.

Why do these 'B' rated people ever go in there in the first place, they all ready know they are life's misfits, the not so ' cool' kids ?

They feel threatened just by the mere fact that the supposed, better looking, cooler, more interesting kids are in the same room as them and in doing so they pale away, shy away, paint themselves as victims.


For once let's get one of the cool, edgey gang win, instead of reverting to the Mr or Mrs nice show, Oh, he's got good manners, he doesn't swear, he or she is sweet and is an underdog, hasn't done much but that doesn't matter etc, etc etc.

Or failing that, have a reality game show where the Machiavellian can win with out the interference of the makers of the program.

How right you are, and Ashleigh is the worst,she is vile, Chris comes a close second

[Bluerang1]

agree with the op only if I read like 2 sentences

[Jords]

Nobody sees theirselves as a 'victim' certainly not Ashleigh. They just see theirselves seperate from the group consisting of Helen/Ash/Steven/Winston and once Pauline/Kimberly etc.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by delta

For once let's get one of the cool, edgey gang win

if you think anyone in there is "cool" or "edgy", you probably need to be getting out a bit more.