[jennyjuniper]

I don't think it's just what she said. After all a slip of the tongue or a stupid remark can happen to anyone. But didn't she have her picture taken outside Auschwitz, wearing a SS cap and swastika armband? If true, then that's a hell of a lot more serious than an idiotic remark.

[Denver]

Let not forget this a women who think muslim women clothes are some to make fun off and dress her child in

[bots]

BB offered her the chance to put the record straight with respect to her comments, she didn't, so they removed her. Seems straightforward enough to me. This can be seen from the official statement released by Channel 5

[Pete.]

Tragic mess

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

I don't think it's just what she said. After all a slip of the tongue or a stupid remark can happen to anyone. But didn't she have her picture taken outside Auschwitz, wearing a SS cap and swastika armband? If true, then that's a hell of a lot more serious than an idiotic remark.

Because she was mentally ill and depressed when she made it. You have no control over what you do, did you read the statement?

[Robodog]

The question is how much do we let past events from OUTSIDE the BB house influence what happens to the HMs once they enter the house?

This is a gameshow. I thought we were meant to judge BB HMs on who they are 'on the gameshow' not pick over their past and judge them according to that. This isn't a court of law.

Most of all, BB should have done their homework BEFORE she went in to save all this upset and embarassment.

This is the age of social media and Channel 5 are a media company, so it's pretty poor show of them to go THIS far; letting her in and then 24hours later suddenly going 'oops, sorry we don't like what you said years ago, so out you go!'

I'm sure too that over 50% of those other HMs have either said or done something regrettable in the past that could be found offensive by someone, somewhere. Do we set a team of lawyers to rake over all their years of social media postings and as soon as we find dirt on them then - wham - kick them out?

If Tila had made illegal comments once inside the BB house then of course remove her.

If she was a proper nazi sympathiser and remained so even when challenged then of course do the same.

But clearly she regretted what she said, she was probably trying to be 'excitingly controversial' at the time but she made a very poor error of judgement and it backfired. A bit like Prince Harry's Nazi uniform at that fancy dress party.

She's not claiming to be a nazi sympathiser. She didn't say anything illegal. She made a distasteful, misguided comment which she clearly now regrets. And it happened years ago - long before she entered the house. How long can you go on punishing someone for that when they already accept how bad it was?

I think it's harsh and very poorly managed by BB. They should sort out all this type of thing out LONG before they let HMs enter, not let it get this far.

Poor show from BB.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Because she was mentally ill and depressed when she made it. You have no control over what you do, did you read the statement?

So when a mentally ill and depressed person goes out and murders someone they should be spared prison as they had no control over what they did?

[QueenCharley]

wow at this show....

surely very offensive but what about the comments of katie hopkins especially in regards to the elderly etc....

there is no grounds for removal... they basically flew her over for nothing due to their own poor research, idiots.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So when a mentally ill and depressed person goes out and murders someone they should be spared prison as they had no control over what they did?

Don't be silly

[Daniel-X]

Didn't Hopkins out something on Twitter after the helicopter crash in Glasgow and made a sick joke about it? I know WW2 is one of the if not the most tragic event the world has ever seen and I do NOT condone anything Tila has said but people are forgetting this woman had mental health issues at the time and did not know what she was doing. It's such an idiotic mistake to make but I didn't see Hopkins being hated for making a joke about the helicopter crash which was vile and low of her (I didn't think she reached new lows) and she didn't have mental health issues at the time

[Raph]

Tila

[Ross.]

There's so much more to this story than "I love the Nazis lol Hitler was the greatest man on earth omg xxxxx", it's been explained what she was going through at the time which is why people at sympathising with her.

I personally don't think it was grounds for ejection, considering most if not all CBB housemates have had a shady past. She wouldn't have been casted anyway if the producers done their job in the first place.

Disclaimer: I don't condone anything that Tila said.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Ross.

There's so much more to this story than "I love the Nazis lol Hitler was the greatest man on earth omg xxxxx", it's been explained what she was going through at the time which is why people at sympathising with her.

I personally don't think it was grounds for ejection, considering most if not all CBB housemates have had a shady past. She wouldn't have been casted anyway if the producers done their job in the first place.

Disclaimer: I don't condone anything that Tila said.

What she said though is illegal in this country and is one of the worst thing anyone could say

[cfromhx02]

She is S c um and that's the end of it.There is no excuse,no matter how brain dead you are for supporting Hitler and the Nazis.

It is very well publicized and clearly explained and anyway it's f obvious that not everyone in one group or race is the same as so many opposed to Immigration seem to think.

It is really important to oppose these views,whether accidentally said through being stupid or not,because it is so well publicized and so obvious that not everyone in any group or race is the same

(That is the definition of Racism) and is the kind of general abuse and threats too being posted about Immigration

too

as it is so Important to stop people like that whether through stupidity or not from allowing Blatant Racism and Fascism to rise again.

So accidental or not her stupid comments were maybe just stupid but were they ? because there is a lot of Racism in the South of the USA and she also showed anti-gay bigotry by saying she'd like to sleep with Austin cos she thought she could turn him

so there is a chance she is an all round bigot and whether an accident or not her comments still encourage others to think the same

so for that reason she had to be kicked from BB.

Also not standing against these things shows great disrespect to all the soldiers who died in the Second World War to protect us from Dictatorship under the Nazis.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What she said though is illegal in this country and is one of the worst thing anyone could say

Well as I said before, if the producers done their research then she shouldn't have been casted in the first place and all of this could have been avoided?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What she said though is illegal in this country and is one of the worst thing anyone could say

They had Jimmy Saville on CBB and treated him like a superstar....

hmmm, what's worse, molesting dozens of children at psychiatric hospitals like Saville, or Tila saying a few offensive words...

Give me a break. The CBB producers are clearly in no position to judge.

[Daniel-X]

Tbf they didn't know about Saville at the time (I watched CBB4 again recently though and I felt physically sick when he came on the screen)

[Denver]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They had Jimmy Saville on CBB and treated him like a superstar....

hmmm, what's worse, molesting dozens of children at psychiatric hospitals like Saville, or Tila saying a few offensive words...

Give me a break. The CBB producers are clearly in no position to judge.

If you did yor bloody reasearch you will realise that the child abuse only came out after Jimmy died so stopp bringing irrel things up

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Adam.

If you did yor bloody reasearch you will realise that the child abuse only came out after Jimmy died so stopp bringing irrel things up

that doesn't change the fact that they paid him a lot of money and treated him like gold on CBB. and it's come out that everyone in the business knew what he was all about. they chose to ignore it.

[y.winter]

"few offensive words"? "didn't know what she was doing"? "no position to judge"?
You literally live in a bubble, aren't you?
The girl deserves to be thrown out over and over again to understands the stupidity that comes out of her mouth and runs through her "allegedly" brain.
These statements are just terrible, you can't imagine how shocked and sad I am reading these ignorant suggestions.
I'm feeling really ashamed.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Robodog

The question is how much do we let past events from OUTSIDE the BB house influence what happens to the HMs once they enter the house?

This is a gameshow. I thought we were meant to judge BB HMs on who they are 'on the gameshow' not pick over their past and judge them according to that. This isn't a court of law.

Most of all, BB should have done their homework BEFORE she went in to save all this upset and embarassment.

This is the age of social media and Channel 5 are a media company, so it's pretty poor show of them to go THIS far; letting her in and then 24hours later suddenly going 'oops, sorry we don't like what you said years ago, so out you go!'

I'm sure too that over 50% of those other HMs have either said or done something regrettable in the past that could be found offensive by someone, somewhere. Do we set a team of lawyers to rake over all their years of social media postings and as soon as we find dirt on them then - wham - kick them out?

If Tila had made illegal comments once inside the BB house then of course remove her.

If she was a proper nazi sympathiser and remained so even when challenged then of course do the same.

But clearly she regretted what she said, she was probably trying to be 'excitingly controversial' at the time but she made a very poor error of judgement and it backfired. A bit like Prince Harry's Nazi uniform at that fancy dress party.

She's not claiming to be a nazi sympathiser. She didn't say anything illegal. She made a distasteful, misguided comment which she clearly now regrets. And it happened years ago - long before she entered the house. How long can you go on punishing someone for that when they already accept how bad it was?

I think it's harsh and very poorly managed by BB. They should sort out all this type of thing out LONG before they let HMs enter, not let it get this far.

Poor show from BB.

So if a murderer or a peodophile went into the house and was really funny and entertaining that would be ok? Obviously I'm not saying Tila is as bad as that before anyone starts but I'm using it as an example to show that yes, when it comes to extreme behaviours and attitudes, it is right to judge someone on their actions before going into Big Brother.

Tila's comments were anti-semetic and nazi sympathizing and this HAS to be seen as an extreme. It's truly shocking to me that some people on this forum are making light of the incredibly dangerous and offensive things she's said, as if it's just some silly little thing that slipped out, or comparable with comments other controversial HM's have made in the past.

It's good that she has since retracted her comments, of course it is. And I hope she's happy and brings up her child well. But I still think that someone who has the capacity to say the things she said should never be celebrated in a public way like Big Brother. The fact that she made those comments will never go away, that's just the nature of media, and for young people and the impressionable to see someone who will always be associated with nazi-ism being celebrated and applauded is dangerous.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by lostalex

that doesn't change the fact that they paid him a lot of money and treated him like gold on CBB. and it's come out that everyone in the business knew what he was all about. they chose to ignore it.

Yes it does he was never accused of anything back then had he been convicted/arrested for it then you would have something to complain about but you dont so please stop bring irrell things up to try and make it sound like she done nothing wrong

[Liam-]

I'm torn about her ejection, on one side she would have been an amazing housemate, so it could be seen as a big loss and I don't really agree with people being ejected because of things that happened outside of the house, but on the other side, I think it was the right thing to do because C5 can't be seen to be condoning what she said and her views - which I'll acknowledge apparently came at a time where she wasn't her best, mentally - but since she's been better, she hasn't taken back or recanted her words so it's easy to assume she still feels that way, she would have been amazing car crash TV, but I see why they did it and I accept that.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I'm torn about her ejection, on one side she would have been an amazing housemate, so it could be seen as a big loss and I don't really agree with people being ejected because of things that happened outside of the house, but on the other side, I think it was the right thing to do because C5 can't be seen to be condoning what she said and her views - which I'll acknowledge apparently came at a time where she wasn't her best, mentally - but since she's been better, she hasn't taken back or recanted her words so it's easy to assume she still feels that way, she would have been amazing car crash TV, but I see why they did it and I accept that.

This is the way i see it but been accused of making her out to be satan because i refused to condone her behaviour

[Liam-]

Oh, just read the statement, she now has taken back her words, but it's a tad bit late now isn't it