[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

People have done much worse in the past, but never got nominated for it. Remember Bb5? Some of the ladies used it go round topless.

Yes i remember but dont see why Ann's nomination should be held up to past nominations. It is her reasoning at the time.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

She did though, several times she left the room and there was a discussion about it.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Ann should have nominated Ashley and G for the small reason. They were kissing and cuddling.

She wanted to nominate Ashley when she was immune.

I think you are clutching a bit because your favourites are involved. They can nominate for whatever reason they like and if Ann found their behaviour uncomfortable she is fully entitled to nom them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jaxie

She wanted to nominate Ashley when she was immune.

Yes,good point Jaxie,spot on

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yes i remember but dont see why Ann's nomination should be held up to past nominations. It is her reasoning at the time.

Because I think it's not a valid reason. She could have said she has nothing in common with them and they rarely speak. But she's basically saying that touchingly each other is wrong.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by jaxie

She wanted to nominate Ashley when she was immune.

I think you are clutching a bit because your favourites are involved. They can nominate for whatever reason they like and if Ann found their behaviour uncomfortable she is fully entitled to nom them.

Amanda is my fave I like shane sure but it's also my opinion

Ann could have nominated Ashley but did she? lol nope...

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because I think it's not a valid reason. She could have said she has nothing in common with them and they rarely speak. But she's basically saying that touchingly each other is wrong.

Well if snoring is a valid reason then so is Ann's. I dont believe she said that touching each other was wrong, she said they were performing what she believed to be a lewd act.
She has seen them cuddle up, snuggle under the blanket outside and never once said anything so i think there was more to it in Ann's opinion.

[joeysteele]

My Grandmother,both of them,were totally different to Ann.
They loved to see younger people enjoying themselves and having fun.

Even into her 80s my Mum's Mother loved family events and often sat nearer where the D J was.

Just before I was 5 I recall her saying to one of my cousins that my cousin was out of date,as my cousin hated Breathe by the Prodigy,which my Grandmother predicted would make number one in the charts.

Maybe we were very lucky to have such open and tolerant Grandparents, who believed life is short and for living, anyway you wanted to legally.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My Grandmother,both of them,were totally different to Ann.
They loved to see younger people enjoying themselves and having fun.

Even into her 80s my Mum's Mother loved family events and often sat nearer where the D J was.

Just before I was 5 I recall her saying to one of my cousins that my cousin was out of date,as my cousin hated Breathe by the Prodigy,which my Grandmother predicted would make number one in the charts.

Maybe we were very lucky to have such open and tolerant Grandparents, who believed life is short and for living, anyway you wanted to legally.

superb post thank you

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour?

More lies

[Ashley.]

I think Ann just needs to mind her own business.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Paula D

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

calm yourself I am neither blind nor a subject for you to rant at! and just for the record I have not screamed homophobe if you must get mad at me for having an opinion that doesn't match yours at least please quote me correctly thanks

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

she did, didn't G accuse her of racism in a round about way?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Paula D

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

Yes she did

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I think Ann just needs to mind her own business.

I like her but she has been allowed too much free reign.

She actually,I think,maybe thinks she is even running this series.
If this series were longer,that likely attitude would ruin the series.

As it is,it's ruined now with the most stupid thing of holding a triple eviction with only 4 housemates.
I kind of wish they had all just nominated 3 housemates and not 4.
Save people watching time and money.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I like her bit she has been allowed too much free reign.

She actually,I think,maybe thinks she is even running this series.
If this series were longer,that likely attitude would ruin the series.

As it is,it's ruined now with the most stupid thing of holding a triple eviction with only 4 housemates.
I kind of wish they had all just nominated 3 housemates and not 4.
Save people watching time and money.

She's definitely had quite a bit of an impact in there. I don't think it's right for anyone to have such a strong presence that they're limiting what anybody else can do or say. At that point you really just have to look at yourself and think about what you're doing wrong.

[-Sue-]

I do think if Ann had been kicked out weeks ago it would have been a whole different show her opinions/views do seem to have stopped a lot of banter/fun whatever you want to call it... not sure people stop out of respect/fear

but then if India was still there instead of Ann would we STILL be listening to 'misgendering/im a woman!' speeches on a twice daily basis

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Amanda is my fave I like shane sure but it's also my opinion

Ann could have nominated Ashley but did she? lol nope...

The reply you quoted was to Vanessa.

I like Amanda too, I think she has a chance of winning too, and Shane L is a nice guy. But I also think Ann is a great housemate and I don't like to see all the silly accusations about her. She's getting enough of that in the house from Andrew.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

She's definitely had quite a bit of an impact in there. I don't think it's right for anyone to have such a strong presence that they're limiting what anybody else can do or say. At that point you really just have to look at yourself and think about what you're doing wrong.

This is where you are missing the point of the social experiment. That Ann has an impact on the behaviour of others is part of what is fascinating. If we want to watch drunks throwing their tits about and such we can watch that any year. Or watch G Shore.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The reply you quoted was to Vanessa.

I like Amanda too, I think she has a chance of winning too, and Shane L is a nice guy. But I also think Ann is a great housemate and I don't like to see all the silly accusations about her. She's getting enough of that in the house from Andrew.

oopsie sorry..

nice post about amanda though Ann is like my marmite some days what comes out of her mouth annoys me some days I agree

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is where you are missing the point of the social experiment. That Ann has an impact on the behaviour of others is part of what is fascinating. If we want to watch drunks throwing their tits about and such we can watch that any year. Or watch G Shore.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is where you are missing the point of the social experiment. That Ann has an impact on the behaviour of others is part of what is fascinating. If we want to watch drunks throwing their tits about and such we can watch that any year. Or watch G Shore.

Oh of course it's fascinating, I never said it wasn't. But I don't think I'm under any obligation to agree with the way she acts.

[reece(:]

Because she's never been touched herself? A trigger?

[Kazanne]

Some people are tactile others aren't it's not a phobia just the was we humans are.