[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I am not a racist. I have friends from other countries.

Then why are you endorsing racists?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

As you've tried this a couple of times now, let's play. What are the very racist things Diane has said?

Just have a look at her wiki page, all the scandal is there.

[Glenn.]

wiki

[Crimson Dynamo]

28 posts so far

40% just having a go at Kate because "they" disapprove of the 2 people Kate chose

usual suspects

you know the ones who love to hurl about "echo chamber and hive mind" as an insult to others

you could not make it up

#irony

[Cherie]

A hive mind

a notional entity consisting of a large number of people who share their knowledge or opinions with one another, regarded as producing either uncritical conformity or collective intelligence:
"he has become one of those celebrities whose online presence has made him a favourite of the internet hive mind" · "we appeal to the company hive mind when we're stuck"
(in science fiction) a unified consciousness or intelligence formed by a number of alien individuals, the resulting consciousness typically exerting control over its constituent members:
"there is a Borg Queen who controls the hive mind"

Arista is the Borg Queen I believe

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

wiki

Unless you've got her number then I'm all ears as to what you use to gain knowledge about someone.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Unless you've got her number then I'm all ears as to what you use to gain knowledge about someone.

Certainly not a website that ANYONE can edit I don’t that’s for sure.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Certainly not a website that ANYONE can edit I don’t that’s for sure.

What do you use then? I will copy and paste from there, instead of pointing slim towards wiki.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

28 posts so far

40% just having a go at Kate because "they" disapprove of the 2 people Kate chose

usual suspects

you know the ones who love to hurl about "echo chamber and hive mind" as an insult to others

you could not make it up

#irony

Please quote the words I've used to "have a go at Kate." As for the rest, it seems my point has struck a bit of a nerve. No counter point, no nothing.

The echo is loud. I was referring back to a previous conversation I've had with SB on the forum. Funny how it wasn't considered an insult to members at the time, but hey ho.

Seems like someone is most definitely making it up

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What do you use then? I will copy and paste from there, instead of pointing slim towards wiki.

You’re the one trying to prove a point… you do it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Just have a look at her wiki page, all the scandal is there.

You keep making the claim, so you should be well aware of what her comments are/were. You shouldn't have needed to run off to wiki for Back up. If you want to have the conversation (which I'm up for) then post the evidence.

[Beso]

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

[Beso]

During an interview in 2010, Ms Abbott, who represents Hackney North and Stoke Newington in London, said “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children” when trying to justify her reason for sending her son to a private school.

Mr Neil, who was interviewing Ms Abbott at the time, responded by saying: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?” He suggested that Ms Abbott’s remark was racist, which she denied.


A lifelong socialist, Ms Abbott has criticised the private education system and in 2003 hit out at her colleague, Harriet Harman, for sending her son to a grammar school.

In a 2018 article for the Labour List website Ms Abbott wrote that socialism “cannot be elitist or sectoral”.

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In 2012 Ms Abbott sparked outrage among taxi drivers after suggesting they were racists.

In a message on Twitter, Ms Abbott wrote: “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Steve McNamara, of the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association, described the comment as “at worst, racist and at best, stupid”.

“We find it amazing that in this day and age someone in Diane Abbott’s position can try to resurrect the stereotypes from the 1960s,” he said.

“At worst she is racist and at best she is stupid in making comments like that. Either way, she should go,” he added.

Car crash LBC interview

In 2017 Ms Abbott stumbled through an explanation of her party’s plan for an additional 10,000 police officers.

During an interview with LBC, the Shadow Home Secretary gave several estimates for how much the new officers would cost, ranging from Ł300,000 to Ł80m.

Ms Abbott was later forced to listen back to the excruciating interview when she appeared on the BBC.

Drinking a mojito on the London Overground

In 2019 Ms Abbott was forced to apologise after getting caught drinking alcohol on the London Overground network.

A photograph of the then shadow home secretary sipping an M&S canned mojito drink was published on The Sun’s website

Transport for London (TfL) introduced an alcohol ban on all public transport in the capital in 2008.

Ms Abbott said she was “sincerely sorry” for drinking the Marks and Spencer cocktail.

“A photo of me drinking from a can of M&S mojito on the Overground has been circulated,” the Labour frontbencher wrote on Twitter: “I’m sincerely sorry for drinking on TFL.”

One Twitter user quipped at the time: “Put it in a water bottle next time.”

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

That's the very racist thing she said?

Any context?

It was an insensitive comment, but I don't believe it was in any way racist.

David Baddiel's niece is a bi-racial Jewish woman, and here she is making exactly the same point.

Any other "very racist" comments you want to discuss?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

Might be an ignorant comment but hardly racist

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

During an interview in 2010, Ms Abbott, who represents Hackney North and Stoke Newington in London, said “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children” when trying to justify her reason for sending her son to a private school.

Mr Neil, who was interviewing Ms Abbott at the time, responded by saying: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?” He suggested that Ms Abbott’s remark was racist, which she denied.


A lifelong socialist, Ms Abbott has criticised the private education system and in 2003 hit out at her colleague, Harriet Harman, for sending her son to a grammar school.

In a 2018 article for the Labour List website Ms Abbott wrote that socialism “cannot be elitist or sectoral”.

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In 2012 Ms Abbott sparked outrage among taxi drivers after suggesting they were racists.

In a message on Twitter, Ms Abbott wrote: “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Steve McNamara, of the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association, described the comment as “at worst, racist and at best, stupid”.

“We find it amazing that in this day and age someone in Diane Abbott’s position can try to resurrect the stereotypes from the 1960s,” he said.

“At worst she is racist and at best she is stupid in making comments like that. Either way, she should go,” he added.

Car crash LBC interview

In 2017 Ms Abbott stumbled through an explanation of her party’s plan for an additional 10,000 police officers.

During an interview with LBC, the Shadow Home Secretary gave several estimates for how much the new officers would cost, ranging from Ł300,000 to Ł80m.

Ms Abbott was later forced to listen back to the excruciating interview when she appeared on the BBC.

Drinking a mojito on the London Overground

In 2019 Ms Abbott was forced to apologise after getting caught drinking alcohol on the London Overground network.

A photograph of the then shadow home secretary sipping an M&S canned mojito drink was published on The Sun’s website

Transport for London (TfL) introduced an alcohol ban on all public transport in the capital in 2008.

Ms Abbott said she was “sincerely sorry” for drinking the Marks and Spencer cocktail.

“A photo of me drinking from a can of M&S mojito on the Overground has been circulated,” the Labour frontbencher wrote on Twitter: “I’m sincerely sorry for drinking on TFL.”

One Twitter user quipped at the time: “Put it in a water bottle next time.”

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You ok?

[Beso]

You are wasting your time slim, I've just been infracted..so someones stirring ****, to report the bite backs...

Laters...

Ps, she is racist.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You ok?

That's why I dont post my proof.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You are wasting your time slim, I've just been infracted..so someones stirring ****, to report the bite backs...

Laters...

Ps, she is racist.

I don't know what you're on about. If you want to have the conversation you started, then I'm up for it, if you don't, then fair enough, but don't waste your time posting the same thing under all of my posts again.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Then why are you endorsing racists?

I'm entitled to my opinion, I don't answer to you. You are entitled to yours. I don't believe them to be racists. If I did I wouldn't harbour them for a minute. I've listened to speeches by both Farage and Robinson and there were no sniffs of any racism. They are associated with a guy called Paul Thorpe who makes excellent youtube videos on the topic of illegal immigrants. Emphasis on illegal, rather than just immigrants.

Say what you like, it's wrong when they come here and get put up in hotels, given every benefit under the sun, plus mobile phones laptops and bicycles. It'll be cars next.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't know what you're on about. If you want to have the conversation you started, then I'm up for it, if you don't, then fair enough, but don't waste your time posting the same thing under all of my posts again.

Typical left, demand demand demand..


I will post whatever I want, wherever I want and whenever I want..dont like it! Well you know what you can do, dont you.

Shes a racist hag, backed by morons who forgive her racist rants because shes a leftie...****ing hypocrites.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Typical left, demand demand demand..


I will post whatever I want, wherever I want and whenever I want..dont like it! Well you know what you can do, dont you.

Shes a racist hag, backed by morons who forgive her racist rants because shes a leftie...****ing hypocrites.

Why are you calling me a moron when we've had a civil discussion thus far? I honestly don't get you Parm. I haven't spoken out of turn towards you, so I don't appreciate it the other way. You still haven't provided any evidence of her even being racist or a racist hag, so get your own house in order.

[Glenn.]

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post...tommy-robinson

[Glenn.]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...-conscription/

[The Slim Reaper]

.

Robinson is a former member of the fascist British National Party (BNP) and co-founder of the English Defence League (EDL). Two instances last week hammered home his racist agenda.

A leaked video showed Robinson boasting about scoring drugs and proclaiming himself “king of the whole Islam race”.

It shows him refer to a taxi driver in Bologna, Italy, as a “little **** who drives a car”.

Banter

Robinson tried to dismiss this as “banter”—and protested that there are “multiple Asians, *multiple Asians” in the group chat. “This could have been so much worse … some of the banter that I’ve had in this group,” he said.

A Rape Crisis centre advertising help for black, Asian and minority ethnic women received abuse after a Facebook post by Robinson attacked their publicity last Friday. A spokesperson said that they had “significant volume of abusive phone calls, messages and emails, many of which are of an overtly racist nature”.

The Wycombe, Chiltern and South Buckinghamshire centre supports all victims of abuse. It also *provides a specialist service for black and Asian women who can face added barriers to accessing help.

The starred out bit is the shorter word for pakistani.