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Old 10-11-2012, 04:55 PM #51
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I hope that Lord McAlpine is able to sue for libel and defamation of character, the people who named him on the Internet. Steve Messham who is claiming he was abused as a child never named Lord McAlpine, the hysterics did.
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Steve Messham said police had shown him a picture of his abuser but incorrectly told him the man was Lord McAlpine.

The BBC's Newsnight reported his claims against a leading 1980s Tory politician but did not name Lord McAlpine.

The BBC apologised "unreservedly" for airing it and announced an "immediate pause" in Newsnight investigations.

Meanwhile, Lord McAlpine's solicitor says he will take legal action against those who later named and linked him to the claims.

Mr Messham has offered "sincere and humble apologies" to the peer and his family.

In a statement on Friday evening Mr Messham said: "After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this [is] not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine."
So Mr Messham believed his abuser WAS Lord McAlpine - hence, the police are to blame for the so-called "witch-hunt" .....

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So Mr Messham believed his abuser WAS Lord McAlpine - hence, the police are to blame for the so-called "witch-hunt" .....
Hmmm... can everyone pass your pitchforks to the right please?....
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Hmmm... can everyone pass your pitchforks to the right please?....
Which witch are we witch-hunting now ?

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Well Done John Humphrys


"Today, PM David Cameron refused
to comment on the BBC's growing crisis"


Yes good move PM
let the Bloated BBC sort it.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2BqBgrBWr

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'Winnie the Pooh would have been more effective': BBC chief faces calls to quit after humiliating interview with his own presenter in wake of Newsnight sex abuse scandal

George Entwistle admits he did not watch last weekend's BBC2 show
Mr Entwistle knew nothing about it - until a member of staff told him
  • He didn't read yesterday's papers in which the report finally unraveled
  • The BBC chief described the report on child abuse as 'unacceptable'
  • He warns staff involved in the programme could now disciplinary action
  • Today, PM David Cameron refused to comment on the BBC's growing crisis
  • Former Minister David Mellor said: 'He came across as so out of touch'
  • Former PCC chairman Sir Christopher Meyer said: 'Humphrys' humiliation of Entwistle almost painful to listen to.'


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David Mellor, the former cabinet minister with responsibility for the BBC, said: 'I feel so disillussioned that such a man can rise without trace to be Director General.

If Entwistle was the best candidate in the first, the field can not have been better than the selling plate at Fakenham race course.'

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Which witch are we witch-hunting now ?

Well... panorama is blaming newsnight, the media are blaming the BBC, the government are blaming George Entwistle, Lord McAlpine is blaming the internet, the public are blaming Phillip Schofield, and the victim is blaming the police
So I dunno...
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"government are blaming George Entwistle"


No
Stop your Twizzle
the PM has said leave it to Nick Pollard and the others.
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"government are blaming George Entwistle"


No
Stop your Twizzle
the PM has said leave it to Nick Pollard and the others.
Stop your twizzle arista...
If we are to think laterally on this why are you posting quotes from the mail...
A tabloid with a distinct political agenda?
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I post the D. Mail to help Omah get a new heading.


I buy the Guardian
but I find the D.Mail Online has great Photo Mixes
I can use.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ight-tory-peer
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On Ch4News now

Its great to have a Ch4News report
nothing like the BBC.

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George Entwistle admitted he did not know about the Newsnight investigation until the day after it was broadcast and had not seen newspaper reports casting doubts on the probe.

The BBC boss said he had also been unaware of a tweet 12 hours before the programme aired, from the Bureau of Investigative Journalism - which worked on the report - suggesting it was going to identify a senior political figure.

"I didn't see that tweet. This tweet was not brought to my attention so I found out about this film after it had gone out," he told the BBC's Today programme.
George missed a tweet .....
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He Has Resigned

Live On News


New Heading Omah
"BBC Director-General George Entwistle Resigns"



Tim Davie takes over as Acting General of the BBC.

"Presenters including J. Paxman had refused
to front last Friday’s Newsnight
which apologised for the previous
week’s broadcast, a source said. "
Good on J. Paxman













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Sadly he was unluky
as Newsnight was featured on the ITV Docu
and last week Newsnight made another error.
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If ever a man was ever promoted above his station .....
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David Cameron may try to distance himself from the scandal engulfing the BBC, but it has brought him embarrassment close to home.

For it was his best friend, the Eton- and Oxford-educated headhunter Dominic Loehnis, who recruited George Entwistle to be director general of the BBC. Cameron was best man at Loehnis's wedding and Loehnis attended Cameron's 44th birthday party at Chequers in 2010. Loehnis ran the recruitment process at headhunters Egon Zehnder, and provided the BBC Trust with a list of candidates, including "advice about the suitability of each candidate". As Entwistle has shown himself to be unsuitable for the job, shouldn't Egon Zehnder give its fees back? After all, they charge enough. It wasn't much of a hunt, either, as Entwistle was BBC head of vision when found. Since 2010, Egon Zehnder has billed the BBC almost Ł400,000 plus VAT to fill three senior vacancies – digital media director, head of vision and director general. And two of these posts they filled with … George Entwistle!
Well, waddya know .....
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Ex-BBC Boss In Line For Ł450,000 Payment

He gets a Years Pay.

http://news.sky.com/story/1010081/ex...450000-payment
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He'll walk into another job within the month .....
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Ex-BBC Boss In Line For Ł450,000 Payment

He gets a Years Pay.

http://news.sky.com/story/1010081/ex...450000-payment
This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.
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My God this is getting silly,how the hell was Cameron to know these things would happen as far as i know he's not a mind reader,it's all getting a bit desperate to pin all the worlds wrongs on him now,ffs,it's individuals accountable for their actions,not one person to take all the blame,jeezYou sound so smug at the end there as though you've unearthed some great news
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This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.
Erm, aren't you the one who goes on about innocent until proven guilty, trial by media, gullible public, mob-handed, etc, etc .....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...59#post5609459

So, sticking up for alleged sex-offenders is OK and so is putting the metaphorical boot into an incompetent but honourable executive .....
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My God this is getting silly,how the hell was Cameron to know these things would happen as far as i know he's not a mind reader,it's all getting a bit desperate to pin all the worlds wrongs on him now,ffs,it's individuals for their actions,not one person to take all the blame,jeezYou sound so smug at the end there as though you've unearthed some great news
Another personal attack from someone who should know better .....
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This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.
Erm, aren't you the one who goes on about innocent until proven guilty, trial by media, gullible public, mob-handed, etc, etc .....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...59#post5609459

So, sticking up for alleged sex-offenders is OK and so is putting the metaphorical boot into an incompetent but honourable executive .....
He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift?? So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance. But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.

I am not just accusing this one man either. It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.
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He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift??
The man who named the man who can't be named was the man who was abused by the man who wasn't the man who can't be named but another man who was identified to the man who was abused as a man with the same name as the man who can't be named ..... get my drift??

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So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance.
As I understand it, Entwistle didn't cause anything to happen - it was his lack of curiosity and his inaction which enabled others to make disastrous decisions.

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But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.
How does a golden handshake for Entwistle "give out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental"




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I am not just accusing this one man either.
Yes, you are .....

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It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.
It's not just the BBC and it's not just Entwistle :

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Hours before that evening's edition of Newsnight, the programme's former political editor Michael Crick tweets "'Senior political figure' due to be accused tonight by BBC of being paedophile denies allegations + tells me he'll issue libel writ agst BBC".

He adds that the person - now known to be Lord McAlpine - said he had not been contacted by the BBC for his response to the allegations.

The tweets by Mr Crick, who now works for Channel 4, follow an earlier one made by Iain Overton, editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism whose reporter Angus Stickler led the Newsnight investigation.

In a now deleted post, which has been retweeted 1,574 times, Mr Overton writes: "If all goes well we've got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20286848

You are aware, of course, that other events have happened at the BBC and Helen Boaden, director of news and Steve Mitchell, deputy director of news and head of news programmes have "stepped aside" while enquiries are ongoing, a process which will take some weeks, at least ..... and a new DG has to be found, too .....
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Post George Entwistle: Caroline Thomson is a favourite for next DG

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20287211

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Caroline Thomson has emerged as one of the bookies' favourites to replace George Entwistle who has resigned as director general of the BBC.

The corporation's former chief operating officer left her post in September after failing to nail the top job in July.

Ladbrokes is offering 5/2 odds on Ms Thomson, while Paddypower has offered even-odds on Ofcom boss Ed Richards.

Tim Davie has been appointed as acting director general.

The director of BBC Audio and Music is close behind Mr Richards on odds of 2-1, with director of news Helen Boaden and Danny Cohen, the head of BBC One, also mentioned as possible contenders.
Could a previous loser replace a displaced winner ?

Could Helen Boaden really get promoted?

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Mr Richards - who worked for both Gordon Brown and Tony Blair at number 10 - was famously referred to by former director general Greg Dyke as a "jumped-up Millbank oik" at a Royal Television Society conference in 2003.

Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust said a new director general would be appointed within the next few weeks.

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