[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

This is where all the facts are stored, great reference point


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk

Yeah and those are actual Police files

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah and those are actual Police files

Yes they are ......... For some reason ( and until the reason is revealed the McCanns have controlled the press all this time, unlike any other case ever )

My theory after years and years on many groups with very informed people is ....... I think Maddie died the night before the alarm was raised,I think she died the night Mrs Fenn heard crying for a long time, but I dont think it was Maddie shouting DADDY as reported,I think it was Kate shouting MADDIE (Therefore outing the lie they told by claiming they never called her by that name, which they DID )I think Kate came home in a temper due to Gerrys flirting with the woman in the bar ,Maddie woke up and Kate lashed out at her, which answers why her clothing had Maddies death scent on them and also the reason for all the blood found behind the sofa ,I think her body was refrigerated ( as Amaral believes ) and taken 25 days later on the Huelva trip where there were unaccounted for milage and hours ,Huelva has natural acid baths and IMO that's where Maddie body was let

[Saph]

honestly i think people WANT the parents to be involved because it makes everything so much easier, but the more I read/hear about it all I honestly think its as simple as she was stolen by someone, sold, and is part of a pedophile ring, possibly smuggled to another country.

[Saph]

If maddie had been killed by the parents I dont get why they would go so public with everything... like surely you would wait for it to die down and just get on with your life?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Saph

If maddie had been killed by the parents I dont get why they would go so public with everything... like surely you would wait for it to die down and just get on with your life?

Maybe thats what they think people would think they would do and so they kept up the pretence? I don't think, unless there is a deathbed confession by one of them, that we will ever know the truth if they did have anything to do with it

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Saph

If maddie had been killed by the parents I dont get why they would go so public with everything... like surely you would wait for it to die down and just get on with your life?

They are in the lie too deep to do that ,have you read the police files i posted or are you believing the Sun ?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes they are ......... For some reason ( and until the reason is revealed the McCanns have controlled the press all this time, unlike any other case ever )

My theory after years and years on many groups with very informed people is ....... I think Maddie died the night before the alarm was raised,I think she died the night Mrs Fenn heard crying for a long time, but I dont think it was Maddie shouting DADDY as reported,I think it was Kate shouting MADDIE (Therefore outing the lie they told by claiming they never called her by that name, which they DID )I think Kate came home in a temper due to Gerrys flirting with the woman in the bar ,Maddie woke up and Kate lashed out at her, which answers why her clothing had Maddies death scent on them and also the reason for all the blood found behind the sofa ,I think her body was refrigerated ( as Amaral believes ) and taken 25 days later on the Huelva trip where there were unaccounted for milage and hours ,Huelva has natural acid baths and IMO that's where Maddie body was let

Was she not at the kids club on the day they said she disappeared though (I haven't read the reports so I honestly don't know the answer to this).?

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by caprimint

It's really interesting to read everyone's thoughts

Also I don't really think they killed her (or even accidentally). I feel like people only go to the overdosing thoughts because they're doctors? .

Didn’t the police dog find blood and traces of drugs in the apartment though

[Jigs]

I genuinely believe she was abducted by an elusive and advanced paedophile/human trafficking network

However,

I believe that the parents of Madeleine know more about the kidnapping than what they'll lead us all to believe

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Was she not at the kids club on the day they said she disappeared though (I haven't read the reports so I honestly don't know the answer to this).?

Payne and Tanners daughters were spitting image of Maddie

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jigs

I genuinely believe she was abducted by an elusive and advanced paedophile/human trafficking network

However,

I believe that the parents of Madeleine know more about the kidnapping than what they'll lead us all to believe

Explain Maddies death scent/cadaver ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Was she not at the kids club on the day they said she disappeared though (I haven't read the reports so I honestly don't know the answer to this).?

Somewhere in the police files i posted is the creche record for that day ,please look at it

[chuff me dizzy]

Listen to this mans podcasts ,he's amazing !!!!

https://twitter.com/saunokonoko

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Listen to this mans podcasts ,he's amazing !!!!

https://twitter.com/saunokonoko

Start here

https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/maddie

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Somewhere in the police files i posted is the creche record for that day ,please look at it

Thanks Chuff, have read it now. Interesting.

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Explain Maddies death scent/cadaver ?

To me that barking dog explains nothing but the fact that it is a well-trained dog. For all we know, it could not mean the detection of Madeleine's cadaver.

Truthfully, I think it's way more likely that she was abducted than killed by her parents in the room and then transported elsewhere~

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jigs

To me that barking dog explains nothing but the fact that it is a well-trained dog. For all we know, it could not mean the detection of Madeleine's cadaver.

Truthfully, I think it's way more likely that she was abducted than killed by her parents in the room and then transported elsewhere~

They're not just someones pet dog they dragged in from the park

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jigs

To me that barking dog explains nothing but the fact that it is a well-trained dog. For all we know, it could not mean the detection of Madeleine's cadaver.

Truthfully, I think it's way more likely that she was abducted than killed by her parents in the room and then transported elsewhere~

Oh please stop making yourself looks silly ,these were FBI trusted, fully trained police dogs with 100% record

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They're not just someones pet dog they dragged in from the park

Honestly Niamh sometimes I wonder how some people remember to breathe in and out

And this is NOT a personal attack on the one member, but to the public in general who are too lazy to dig deep, too easy to make Maddies short life and terrible death mean nothing

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Didn’t the police dog find blood and traces of drugs in the apartment though

I thought it was their car? I don't know about that, it's possible that she cut herself or something though.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I thought it was their car? I don't know about that, it's possible that she cut herself or something though.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/V/08_...age_2192_a.jpg

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They're not just someones pet dog they dragged in from the park

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh please stop making yourself looks silly ,these were FBI trusted, fully trained police dogs with 100% record

then explain why the case against them was dropped due to inconclusive evidence/DNA?

I refuse to believe the only reason they're still walking free is because they paid everyone out.

I get that's an easy conclusion to reach for you conspiracists but you're talking about the idea of me being insensitive to Maddie's potential loss of life whilst gladly contributing to the media firestorm that has ruined the rest of her families'~

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jigs

then explain why the case against them was dropped due to inconclusive evidence/DNA?

I refuse to believe the only reason they're still walking free is because they paid everyone out.

I get that's an easy conclusion to reach for you conspiracists but you're talking about the idea of me being insensitive to Maddie's potential loss of life whilst gladly contributing to the media firestorm that has ruined the rest of her families'~

Dog alerts on their own are not classed as evidence. I think they might be in the US though?

Also sure I have read (though god knows where and I might be misremembering), the 15 DNA markers in the hire car would have been enough to put them away if the case was in england, but Portuguese are stricter, so for all the moaning about Portuguese justice (for daring to do what any decent force would do and basically check out the family first)..they are lucky as hell it was there not here.

[Kazanne]

What baffles me is if the police have all this information,why have they not been hauled into a court and questioned under oath ?

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What baffles me is if the police have all this information,why have they not been hauled into a court and questioned under oath ?

because this case has been tainted by a plethora of pseudo-criminologists who come forth and spread falsities for their own personal notoriety/gain. People like to gain purpose by thinking they know exactly what they're talking about, judging by some of the users in this thread.......

Truth is, 99% of what we hear about Madeleine is hearsay and rumour. People read the Sun newspaper and watch a Maddie docuseries on Netflix and suddenly have all the evidence, it seems.