[Ninastar]

I do, but only certain things. Had stuff happen to me. Not fun and I think I’m a little scarred from it honestly. Can’t watch anything paranormal/ghost related

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Google ‘ cold reading’


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None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around.

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around.

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.

Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??


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[rusticgal]

Yes I do. A few unusual things have happened since my mum passed away. My brother also experienced paranormal things in an old house he bought many years ago...and he was a massive disbeliever. My friend also experienced such things in her old house.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Yes I do. A few unusual things have happened since my mum passed away. My brother also experienced paranormal things in an old house he bought many years ago...and he was a massive disbeliever. My friend also experienced such things in her old house.

Old buildings are always ‘noisy’ though , for a number of reasons .


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[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??


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Walk-in, completely out of the blue. He didn't know me or anything about me.

[LaLaLand]

A really comforting "experience" I had I remember so vividly was when I was about 12 years old.

I was lying on the sofa one night watching wrestling on Sky and my lovely dog that I'd had my whole life and grew up with had passed away a few days before at the grand old age of 14. My sister was upstairs in her room and my parents were out somewhere, think at a relatives, so there was only me downstairs at home.

Anyway, my dog used to sleep in front of the back door in the kitchen on his bed and when he was dreaming and did that galloping thing dogs do his claws would bang and scratch on the metal bin in the kitchen next to him, and made a really loud, distinct sound.

Anyway, I was lying there and "the noise" happened...

Didn't scare me at all it was comforting in a way if anything to hear it, was as if he was just popping in to say he's alright or something, like a nice "goodbye". Remember giggling after it happened. Bless him.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Walk-in, completely out of the blue. He didn't know me or anything about me.

Mmmm. Has to be ‘old school’ cold reading techniques then as they wouldn’t have been able to check on you online (Facebook , Instagram , Twitter etc )

If these con artists could speak with the dead and predict the future - they’d all be billionaires so I don’t really think they’d be working in shoddy little rooms charging some poor sod £25 for a reading ..


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[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Old buildings are always ‘noisy’ though , for a number of reasons .


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No my brother actually saw a figure in the room of the old lady who lived and died there.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

If these con artists could speak with the dead and predict the future - they’d all be billionaires so I don’t really think they’d be working in shoddy little rooms charging some poor sod £25 for a reading ..

Well that's the thing isn't it Zizu... if it was real these people with this "rare gift" would be worth millions and would be working on the payroll of governments and large companies... none of them are... they're in carnival tents and - if they're especially good at it - maybe booking out lecture halls etc... the only sensible conclusion is that it isn't real.

There's also the spanner-in-the-works of there being several high-profile people who are very skilled at it - more skilled than your average Mystic Meg in a hut outside Tesco - who do these reading techniques on people and amaze them whilst freely admitting that it is NOT in any way supernatural.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well that's the thing isn't it Zizu... if it was real these people with this "rare gift" would be worth millions and would be working on the payroll of governments and large companies... none of them are... they're in carnival tents and - if they're especially good at it - maybe booking out lecture halls etc... the only sensible conclusion is that it isn't real.

There's also the spanner-in-the-works of there being several high-profile people who are very skilled at it - more skilled than your average Mystic Meg in a hut outside Tesco - who do these reading techniques on people and amaze them whilst freely admitting that it is NOT in any way supernatural.

maybe they are and we just don't know

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

maybe they are and we just don't know

I mean if there are psychics in the government they're not doing a very good job

[bots]

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.

[joeysteele]

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.

My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....

[bots]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....

and he could hear the wind blowing and an old door creaking in the background

i'm pretty open minded on it all actually, it would be really good fun if it were true, I like the idea of haunting some poor beggar in 300 years time

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.

Exactly


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.

You make some fair points ...

Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

Totally agree ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

It boils down to

do you think you are right and the entire laws of science as we know them are wrong?

or perhaps you may have been mistaken?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....

That's an incredible account.
I'd like to see science, explain that.

A house your Brother had never lived in.
Didn't know the lady.
Could describe her perfectly.

Only confirmed by a relative.
No wonder he was freaked out when it occurred.

[Zizu]

Relax ... they’re clouds..




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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Relax ... they’re clouds..




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