[Santa Goth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh, God forfend she should be disadvantaged in the men's group. But it's fine for women to be disadvantaged.

The best compromise is to make a separate group with trans people and intersex people. Women's safety should not be compromised. If it was a sport where their biological sex did not give them an advantage I would not have a problem. I wished well in her life but I will never accept her fighting biological women.

My point being that we shouldn't have any athlete being disadvantaged.

I do agree with you that having a Trans & Intersex division would be good if they have enough competitors in those groups.

[Parumpapapump]

Originally Posted by Zizu

TalkSport has a doctor discussing this topic and the very real issues and concerns as we speak



She said that these ‘women’ with naturally higher testosterone levels will have wider shoulders, narrower waists , denser bone tissue, be naturally stronger ( much bigger biceps) etc etc

All equating to 2.5 ( two and a half) times more powerful punches or a weight advantage on the level of a heavyweight fighting a lightweight !!


The implications are huge for the unfortunate young women taking the punches whereas the stronger ‘women’ have much better punch resistance another huge advantage

Longer arms are an obvious advantage ( Crawford for example has extraordinarily long arms)


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Do you have a picture of the woman doctor so we can all judge a still image and decide what sex she really is to us all judging from the sides?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Do you have a picture of the woman doctor so we can all judge a still image and decide what sex she really is to us all judging from the sides?

What ?

Not sure what you are asking/saying

Either way the answer is no . .. it was a discussion on radio as I said


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[Parumpapapump]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What ?

Not sure what you are asking/saying

Either way the answer is no . .. it was a discussion on radio as I said


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You got a name?

[Quantum Bauble]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She’s made a start on filing lawsuits against people for defamation and online harassment

That should be interesting if any go ahead as they will be a burden of proof involved (she will have to prove medically that she is female, not just legally, or it isn't defamation).

Its also not harassment unless people were messaging her directly.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You got a name?

No sorry .. I was trying to remember the salient points of the discussion


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[Parumpapapump]

Originally Posted by Zizu

No sorry .. I was trying to remember the salient points of the discussion


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I just wanted to know if I could judge if she was a man or a woman without her/his face straining through sporting effort.


Might be a woman pretending to be as knowledgable as a man as far as you know.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That should be interesting if any go ahead as they will be a burden of proof involved (she will have to prove medically that she is female, not just legally, or it isn't defamation).



Its also not harassment unless people were messaging her directly.

I would have thought that IBA would be the only ones Imane could sue as they were the ones who told everyone about the failed tests and the Y chromosome etc. I hope it happens though as at least the question would be resolved one way or the other before the next Olympics

[arista]

She/He

Goes home with a Gold Medal
That's what her nation wanted.

But she is upset
by all the verbal attacks.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

She/He

Goes home with a Gold Medal
That's what her nation wanted.

But she is upset
by all the verbal attacks.

Well her opponents are all upset by her physical attacks


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well her opponents are all upset by her physical attacks

Sure Tough Fights

[arista]

This is crazy :

[Richard Dawkins announced on August 10
that his Facebook account has been deleted,
allegedly in response to his remarks on
Algerian boxer Imane Khelif.]

1 day ago


I found out on Free Speech Nation
when a Live audience member,
asked was this right?
GBnewsHD

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

This is crazy :

Richard Dawkins announced on August 10
that his Facebook account has been deleted,
allegedly in response to his remarks on
Algerian boxer Imane Khelif.]

1 day ago


I found out on Free Speech Nation
when a Live audience member,
asked was this right?
GBnewsHD

free speech, yes


but cyberbullying and spreading misinformation, no



last time i am gonna mention it

Imane Khelif born a girl, grew up a girl, always been a girl!, as for the y chromosome bull**** story, well very hard to believe the IBA if you can't get your own eyes on actual files something those Kremlev and his minions aren't showing us

[Livia]

Dawkins, probably the most famous biologist in the world, gets his account closed for speaking the truth. Free speech is dead.

[Nicky91]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boxer-i...ullying-probe/

France has launched a cyberbullying investigation following a complaint by Algerian Olympic boxing champion Imane Khelif, prosecutors told CBS News on Wednesday, after the athlete endured backlash over misconceptions about her gender.

Khelif's lawyer, Nabil Boudi, announced on social media last week that the boxing champion had filed a complaint for online harassment, calling it "a new fight: that of justice, dignity and honor."

"The criminal investigation will determine who initiated this misogynistic, racist and sexist campaign, but will also have to focus on those who fueled this digital lynching," Boudi said on social media. "The unfair harassment suffered by the boxing champion will remain the biggest stain on these Olympic Games."

Khelif won the women's 66-kilogram boxing final against China's Yang Liu at the 2024 Paris Olympic Games.

She and Taiwan's Lin Yu-ting were disqualified from last year's boxing world championship after allegedly failing gender eligibility testing, the AFP news agency reported. The Russian president of the IBA, Umar Kremlev, targeted both athletes, claiming they had undergone "genetic testing that shows that these are men," AFP reported.

Paris' public prosecutor's office told CBS News that it had received Khelif's complaint on Monday, which was referred to the city's office for combating crimes against humanity and hate crimes for an "investigation into the counts of cyberbullying due to gender, public insult due to gender, public provocation to discrimination and public insult due to origin."

"I send a message to all the people of the world to uphold the Olympic principles and the Olympic Charter, to refrain from bullying all athletes, because this has effects, massive effects," Khelif said during an interview in Arabic earlier this month. "It can destroy people. It can kill people's thoughts, spirit and mind. It can divide people. And because of that, I ask them to refrain from bullying."

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[Nicky91]

people who commit cybercrime, also require professional help as they are sick in the head

mental asylums are better suited to them and other creeps online

[Parumpapapump]

France has launched a cyberbullying investigation following a complaint by Algerian Olympic boxing champion Imane Khelif


I've seen it all now...

[Parumpapapump]

Really really bad when you have a nation bending over backwards for these freaks of nature.

[CheapLousyFaggit]

This person's name even starts with I Man, bit of a giveaway.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Beso

Really really bad when you have a nation bending over backwards for these freaks of nature.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

This person's name even starts with I Man, bit of a giveaway.

sexism and racism, the stench


Imane is a very common name in Algeria and the Middle East

[Parumpapapump]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

sexism and racism, the stench


Imane is a very common name in Algeria and the Middle East

Oh grow up.

[Santa Goth]

She's suing people for not liking her involvement in a Sport?

Khelif and the Chinese woman that won a Gold medal in her weight division had a Biological advantage, that has been established due to them being Intersex.

The fact that both of them got gold medals proves that they both had an unfair advantage within the Sport.

But tbh even if they both didn't get Gold, they both still need to be moved from their current level of Boxing.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

She's suing people for not liking her involvement in a Sport?

Khelif and the Chinese woman that won a Gold medal in her weight division had a Biological advantage, that has been established due to them being Intersex.

The fact that both of them got gold medals proves that they both had an unfair advantage within the Sport.

But tbh even if they both didn't get Gold, they both still need to be moved from their current level of Boxing.

she is born a female, learn to understand it for once


she's suing people who cyberbullied her more like, who disputed her gender, those bunch of ''know it-all'' hater types

[Santa Goth]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

she is born a female, learn to understand it for once


she's suing people who cyberbullied her more like, who disputed her gender, those bunch of ''know it-all'' hater types

They're women, but they're also Biologically Intersex.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

They're women, but they're also Biologically Intersex.

who says that, that lying vile evil russian pig Kremlev