[glib]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Keep making excuses for him.
His official figures say just under 151,000 have lost their lives in the UK.
The ONS with one figure of theirs the government doesn't like using says it's more like 175,000+ who lost their lives.

Deceit and lies, procrastination and conflicting advice is the legacy of this government and PM on the pandemic.

The only thing done really well is the vaccine roll.out.
Yet there's still around 700 people losing their lives weekly.

700 out of the what , 2 million who tested positive within the last 28 days of getting a positive test , as that’s what the statistics show

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by glib

700 out of the what , 2 million who tested positive within the last 28 days of getting a positive test , as that’s what the statistics show

Well you may not be bothered about 700+ families being bereaved.
I do, if that's okay with you.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We are just going around in circles .. we have no idea at all how Labour would have managed although looking at their cabinet of MPs and also going back through history - I wouldn’t be too optimistic at all .


It’s only a few days ago that a top guy was citing the UK as leading the way out if this dreadful situation and praising the way we’ve handled things sooooooo


I actually posted his comments in one of these threads but it’s not at hand sadly .

Maybe someone else can find it ..


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I'm not talking about Labour or anyone else.
Look, you wouldn't give Labour credit for anything so your comment on Labour I take with a pinch of salt.

These are the results of Johnson's government, no one elses.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

sorry what

you are stating all Conservative MPS and voters are saying this?

do you have any evidence to support this?

You are right.
I should have said some Cons.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well you may not be bothered about 700+ families being bereaved.
I do, if that's okay with you.

I don’t get your point tbh

Is there anywhere that haven’t had thousands of deaths ?

It’s absolutely heartbreaking but it’s nobodies fault imho .


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm not talking about Labour or anyone else.
Look, you wouldn't give Labour credit for anything so your comment on Labour I take with a pinch of salt.

These are the results of Johnson's government, no one elses.

I rarely give the Tories credit for anything .. . they’ve made some horrendous mistakes over the last two years but the main thing was the vaccine program and they hit gold with that .

I don’t give a rat’s sass about all the damn get togethers - I’d bet everyone at those parties were just letting loose after another dreadfully stressful week .

I heard stories of nurses , doctors and orderlies who were having drinks together .. they deserved it - imho

I followed the rules to the letter but I know loads who broke the rules continuously and didn’t even try to hide it .


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I don’t get your point tbh

Is there anywhere that haven’t had thousands of deaths ?

It’s absolutely heartbreaking but it’s nobodies fault imho .


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Well look you NEVER do so as I said the last time.
It's a waste of my time to respond to you.

I'm talking about unnecessary losses of lives of which the estimate is over 20,000 of them
4 of them from my family and friends so don't get me wound up even more about that.
Because WE, my family and my Mother who has never come to terms with the unnecessary and avoidable loss of her sister.
We know the medical facts and the incompetence and negligence from government which created the environment for those losses to happen.
Which we and thousands of others will rush to present to the official independent public inquiry which your prescious deceitful PM dreads happening having kicked it into the long grass for well over a year.
Because he knows what will come from it.

Anyhow, it is a waste of my time responding to you and frankly I'm wishing I hadn't again today.

Total waste of my time.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well look you NEVER do so as I said the last time.
It's a waste of my time to respond to you.

I'm talking about unnecessary losses of lives of which the estimate is over 20,000 of them
4 of them from my family and friends so don't get me wound up even more about that.
Because WE, my family and my Mother who has never come to terms with the unnecessary and avoidable loss of her sister.
We know the medical facts and the incompetence and negligence from government which created the environment for those losses to happen.
Which we and thousands of others will rush to present to the official independent public inquiry which your prescious deceitful PM dreads happening having kicked it into the long grass for well over a year.
Because he knows what will come from it.

Anyhow, it is a waste of my time responding to you and frankly I'm wishing I hadn't again today.

Total waste of my time.

Right .. sorry .. apologies for getting you so riled .

I was just putting my take on things across.

Nothing personal.


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[Christmas Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are right.
I should have said some Cons.

[Christmas Dynamo]

I think if a claim is made that the government caused x amount of deaths due to failure to act quickly then a similar claim should be made about the speed of the vaccine roll out and how many deaths that has avoided

[glib]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm talking about unnecessary losses of lives of which the estimate is over 20,000 of them

Earlier you claimed it was 175,000.

Originally Posted by joeysteele

4 of them from my family and friends so don't get me wound up even more about that.

Ok, sorry for your loss, but how many times have you brought that up as an excuse to rant about the deaths of 174,996 others, literally 99.9999% of whom you don’t know the circumstances about - whether they were old, already weak, or got killed by other means than covid


Zizu shouldn’t have to apologise for you and your short temper, I don’t care whether your auntie or your pet budgie died it gives you no excuse to be this vicious

[glib]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If that's the level of your attitude to deaths.
God help us.
I can easily shut up and leave you and others on here just to get on with it though.
Very easily.

Oh no, just read the news. Lord Myners has died. How sad. Ex-Chancellor of Uni of Essex.

Oh well, life moves on.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by glib

Earlier you claimed it was 175,000.



Ok, sorry for your loss, but how many times have you brought that up as an excuse to rant about the deaths of 174,996 others, literally 99.9999% of whom you don’t know the circumstances about - whether they were old, already weak, or got killed by other means than covid


Zizu shouldn’t have to apologise for you and your short temper, I don’t care whether your auntie or your pet budgie died it gives you no excuse to be this vicious

Just exactly where have I ever asked or said Zizu should apologise.
Plus what has it got to do with you anyhow???

Fine, I'm off this thread.
You and Zizu get at whoever else you like now.

Oh but, as to the 175,000.
I said IF you read it properly.

The government's figures are just under 151,000 deaths.

The ONS state the figure of deaths is more like over 175,000.

The estimated avoidable deaths are 20,000.

Right that's it for me on this thread you and Zizu will be pleased to learn.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Just exactly where have I ever asked or said Zizu should apologise.
Plus what has it got to do with you anyhow???

Fine, I'm off this thread.
You and Zizu get at whoever else you like now.

Oh but, as to the 175,000.
I said IF you read it properly.

The government's figures are just under 151,000 deaths.

The ONS state the figure of deaths is more like over 175,000.

The estimated avoidable deaths are 20,000.

Right that's it for me on this thread you and Zizu will be pleased to learn.

I apologised before all these ‘personal’ mentions ..


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[Christmas Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Just exactly where have I ever asked or said Zizu should apologise.
Plus what has it got to do with you anyhow???

Fine, I'm off this thread.
You and Zizu get at whoever else you like now.

Oh but, as to the 175,000.
I said IF you read it properly.

The government's figures are just under 151,000 deaths.

The ONS state the figure of deaths is more like over 175,000.

The estimated avoidable deaths are 20,000.

Right that's it for me on this thread you and Zizu will be pleased to learn.

as anyone who has had an estimated energy bill knows

they are mostly bollocks

[bots]

there are endless amounts of unnecessary deaths across all fields of life let alone health issues when you can look back with the benefit of hindsight. It's just one of these things. The UK has learnt a lot over the last couple of years and are one of the best positioned across the whole world as of now. Thats not to say we haven't had some very harrowing times, we have, but the trajectory from january last year has been nothing short of brilliant

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are endless amounts of unnecessary deaths across all fields of life let alone health issues when you can look back with the benefit of hindsight. It's just one of these things. The UK has learnt a lot over the last couple of years and are one of the best positioned across the whole world as of now. Thats not to say we haven't had some very harrowing times, we have, but the trajectory from january last year has been nothing short of brilliant

That’s a fair assessment of things , I’d say


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[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

We are still waiting


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[Christmas Dynamo]

maybe he will say sorry with Nick at 9am LBC this morning?

[arista]

No he is Not Sorry.



Live Now
Starmer on LBC.

[arista]

Nic has asked him to say sorry.

Starmer says
he will not say sorry
he did nothing wrong.

[arista]

Left Winger on LBC
keeps going on about the Daily Mail
photo being 8 months old.
Going over the same topic, nonstop.

SO WHAT!
that's the same as old Johnson Photos
they go back in time

[glib]

Tit for tat really, playground stuff
All of parliament needs a clear out

[arista]

Originally Posted by glib

Tit for tat really, playground stuff
All of parliament needs a clear out

All Parties change their Cabinets.